Croyle throws off of his back foot on occasion.
 

I have heard/read several people bashing on Croyle for throwing off of his back foot. I just got done watching SPORTSCENTER run highlights of some of last nights pre-season games. And guess what? Favre threw at TD pass off his back foot. So did Garcia. And Hasselback threw a pass off his backfoot as well. Looks like Croyle is in some good company IMO.

I don't want Croyle to be anything like this-decade Favre...ah thank you

More NFL highlights are on... Leinart just threw 2 TD passes... on of which was off of his back foot. :cuss:

I agree with you on Favre, but I think Coogs' point is that almost all QBs throw off their back foot at times, even a weak armed Garcia.

Yep!

Yeah, I know...

but that INT he threw last game was atrocious...

When he threw it, it looked as if he was uber excited - like the entire defense fell down or something. I was extremely confused when I saw the results of the play seconds later.

I didn't get a chance to see the game, so I can't comment.

I just hope it's another "rookie" mistake, and that he learned from it, whatever that mistake might have been.

I'm willing to live with a few of those this season.

So am I...

Seems like a humble kid...I can definitely see him being a good QB down the road.

Croyle is good at sticking the ball to receivers.. can't trust our guys to go up and fight for anything (hopefully Bowe will inspire some ferocity?!)

Gotta fire the rope!!!

Actually, the receivers made some spectacular catches on some poorly thrown balls by Huard last season.

I never knew they had it in them.

I know Brodie threw that pass on his back foot, but it was also underthrown big time, IMHO. If he had put some more force on it, it would most likely hit the WR with the DB in very tight coverage.

This is an interesting thread because I think the throwing off the back foot gripe is overrated.

Yes you would like for your QB to have picture perfect mechanics every single time but that's just not realistic. Not when guys are crashing around you. A good QB has got to be able to deliver the ball when he's a little off balance.

My main gripe with Croyle isn't the back foot thing. It's just the decision he makes from time to time.

But I fully expect that from a young QB and I'm willing to live through it while he learns.

All QB's do it from time to time...... Sometimes they get away with it and at times they don't.

Funny. That sport they call baseball. They have a player called a pitcher. Those pitchers throw off which foot, to get their power?

no one complains about him throwing
one over the middle and getting Samie hurt

Nearly everyone knows the answer to that. Point is, a QB is not a pitcher in baseball. Not everytime is he going to get to set his feet where he wants to throw... like a pitcher does. Sometimes you have to throw off of your back foot, 'cause the receiver may be only open for a bit and the QB doesn't have time to adjust to that bit. And if the QB did reset his feet and that ball gets intercepted, the QB would be ripped for telegraphing his passes.

The fact is, whether it's a pitch, or throwing a pass, they both actually throw off their back foot.

It's the follow through mechanics, or lack thereof, that people are actually bitching about.

A pitcher never has people coming at him when he pitches.

His mechanics aren't holding him back at this point. He's completing everything when he plays smart.

Throwing off the back foot concerned me in training camp, but on Croyle's better drives it's clearly not an issue. He's physically fine.

It's mental errors he's got to work on, and I believe he can.

wow ......... we are already bringing out the old 'bashing' moniker

i don't think croyle is ready to start. Another year of watching would help him more than playing

.... I saw a lion's share of dropped passes last year though... most notably in the playoff game... not good for the blood pressure lol...
Croyle delivers a good ball. We'll see.

could certainly be true


the problem is that you just don't know until you try and are we really gonna want to try during a 'winning' season.

the time is now



imo the only real question is to start Croyle game 1 or wait until around mid-season

I said they saved Huard's ass.

When Green returned, they reverted to their same old pass dropping ways.

It seemed they stepped up their concentration for Huard.

Not the way I used to pitch.

I've noticed his tendency to throw while back pedaling (it's more than just off his back foot, he actually has backwards momentum). It looks wrong, but his accuracy and zip is pretty good regardless of the funky mechanics. Like others, I'm more concerned about him learning when and where to throw it.

The problem wasn't that he threw off his back foot, the problem was he didn't correctly read the defense. Young QBs do that. It's no big deal to me -- but Herm believes in zero risk-taking on offense, so who knows what he thinks about it.

actually if he had stepped into the throw it might of gone to the back corner of the endzone where only griffin could catch it.


they had 1 on 1 coverage ..... the problem was that it's was under thrown.


read wasn't that bad, the throw was

Yeah, Wilson was behind the DB. If that pass is thrown at the back corner of the endzone, nobody has a chance at catching it other then Wilson.

I disagree. I don't think the pass could have been completed. Croyle thought the receiver had one-on-one coverage, and he didn't.

back-foot, front-foot, left foot, right foot... who cares. The botton line is Croyle is barely an NFL Europe caliber QB (at best).

Meanwhile David Carr and Brady Quinn both were impressive this weekend. Just an FYI

ROFL

Wow.

This guy is too much of a ****ing dumbass to not be someone's brilliant creation

to each his own


but wilson was open .... Croyle throws that ball to the corner pylon and it's 6 points for us. (if griffin makes the catch anyway)


i didn't like the fact that it was griffin in the pattern .... you want a taller guy. A tightend like gonzo or a receiver like bowe to use body learn to match the catch and tap the toes.

bottomline is that i haven't seen anything yet to change my opinion of Croyle coming out of college.

he has all the tools and talent to be a starting NFL caliber quarterback if healthy.

David F**kin Carr?? Youve got to be kidding me....

Brady Quinn came in and cleaned up against a bunch of scrubs who will be cut next week....

Joe Montana to Dwight Clark "The Catch" sometimes it's necessary

I didn't see any of the others but as I recall Croyle didn't need to be throwing off his back foot. In fact it was more falling backwards as I remember. He wasn't under that much pressure. There was one guy just ahead of him. He could have at least set his feet. On top of that he just kind flinged it. Didn't really throw it. Kind of side armed it. It was down right lousy fundementals, in fact, there wasn't any. It seemed to me like he thought he could just easily complete this pass. No problem. Don't matter how I throw it. I think its scary.

croyle reminds me of jake plummer

You remind me of GoChiefs.

Croyles reminds me of a young QB, who has never started one NFL game in his life.

he needs to save the back-pedalling for those screen passes to PRIEST!! awwwwww hahaha ... that'll be a good story to tell.

I think this is exactly right.

Just an FYI: your brain is made of shit.

What kind of couch incident has he had?

i'd start crolye in game 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 and the bye week too...

the kid sorta reminds me of Namath, with a lot less bluster...

rather than starting him in mid-season, why not let him be really ready to play by then...

by learning on the job, being coached up, getting familiar with what his team mates can and cannot do...

my bet is that he'll screw up like all rookies but he'll likely do so many other things well...

the more reps he gets, the further along he will be by mid-season...

That's one way to look at it. But ask yourself how many picks Brodie has thrown when throwing off his back foot. Problem also is that sometimes he has time to set his feet but he doesn't - he just "flings" it kind of side arm. YIKES!

EXACTLY! Very well said and you're not dogging the kid. He does it exactly how you described it. It's not pretty and I bet it's not easily fixed because he did it at Alabama as well. He does have potential, but jeez I hope he can learn from his mistakes...