Do you take Manziel at 23?
 

What if he falls?

A controversial, largely-thought-to-be-a-slam-dunk QB has dropped from time to time in the NFL Draft.

He could be Brady Quinn if we take him at 23, or he could be Aaron Rodgers.

Keep in mind, you've also likely got these candidates on the board as well:

WR Lee
WR Robinson
WR Benjamin
TE Seferian-Jenkins
OT Kouandjio
OT Richardson
OG Jackson
NT Nix
DE Tuitt
OLB Murphy
CB Dennard
S Pryor

I take him, FWIW.

I would take:

Lee, Robinson, Benjamin, Seferian-Jenkins, Nix, Tuitt, Murphy, Dennard and Pryor over Manziel at that point. Best case scenario....I'd trade down so someone else can take him.

All of this.

I'm sorry, but if you have an opportunity to lock down your QB position for 10 years, you take it.

I pass and trade out of the spot. For all of the fanfare he receives, there's a reason why he would drop that far. He's more Ryan Leaf than he is Russell Wilson as far as his personality goes.

Sure....but you aren't bringing a QB to the table who can "lock down" the position for 10 years.

This dude screams bust.

They've already invested multiple second round draft choices on Alex Smith. You're delusional if you think they are also going to use this year's first rounder on a QB, especially when they have glaring holes at 2 or 3 other positions.

No. maybe someone else will though...trade out and pick up an extra.

If the Browns didn't take a QB at #5.....then I would gladly let them trade up into our spot to draft that dipshit.

Yes, I'd take him.

Last years 23rd pick (Shariff Floyd) signed a 4 year, 7.7 million dollar deal.

He is only 21 and has some elite traits that would translate perfectly to the WCO. Vision, instincts, decision making (on the field), mobility, playmaking ability.

I would make a lot of calls leading up to te pick letting it be known I am taking Manziel unless someone trades up and I'd hold to my word.

We've got Alex for another 4-5.

Manziel will either be selling insurance or in rehab by then. Perhaps both.

Would you rather

draft Manziel/keep Alex this year and negotiate next year with him or tag him next year...if Andy feels he can get everything Alex gives us out of Manziel (or at least a reasonable amount) 2 years from now (or sooner if Alex gets injured) you have a very young starter FOR DIRT CHEAP. In this scenario, we have Alex and Johnny for AT LEAST the next 2 seasons.

Or

Sign Alex Smith to a market value deal right now. Cutler has the same agent as Alex Smith, Matt Ryan, Matt Stafford and Drew Brees...so we can expect Condon to be asking for comparable numbers...15-18 million per year.

If we take Manziel and it works out with him as the starter over the course of the next two years, that gives the team an additional 13-16 million per year to continue to build this roster with.

I really liked how Alex Smith has stepped up, but these guys preach BPA as their philosophy and they are replaced Albert with Fisher and this is probably a comparable scenario.

All in all, it's fun to think about but these guys are all in with Alex and they wouldn't take Manziel, even if they thought he would be really good.

I don't think this is the same scenario as Albert/Fisher.

They drafted Fisher because they were forced too. They tried leveraging Albert and they failed. Couldn't sign him to a new deal....couldn't get him to move....couldn't trade him. If Albert had signed a new deal before the end of the season....do you still think they would have taken Fisher? I don't.

I doubt they were forced to.

I'm sure there were trade offers on the table for the #1 pick. They may not have been "good value" compared to recent trades like what Washington gave up, but I'm sure there were a couple options on the table.

I believe they picked Fisher because they already had it in their mind that they were moving on from Albert, and boy does that look like its backfiring right in their face.