I agree, I think the price is smaller than people assume. Dodgers can win without Kemp and his bitching surely isn't helping the locker room. I think they'd eat half to move him. They seems to care little about spending money. I'd be all aboard that move.

I have no idea if the Royals are even remotely interested in Kemp. I've heard that the Red Sox are, which should tell you something considering that they just traded Jake Peavy away.

I do know that Kemp views himself as a CF. I'm fine with that. Move Cain to RF.

I also know that he has the potential to be a superstar, something this team hasn't had in a long time. If it takes some prospects to get a chance at that, I'm fine with that risk.

We can jettison Butler after this season and use a much cheaper option at DH who would likely provide much better offense than what we're getting.

Last year was an injury write-off. This year he's struggling. But based on the 4 years before that, it looks like a classic buy low scenario and unlike Shields, we'd have him for awhile.

You're either all-in or you're a seller in my opinion.

I have no idea if the Royals are even remotely interested in Kemp. I've heard that the Red Sox are, which should tell you something considering that they just traded Jake Peavy away.

I do know that Kemp views himself as a CF. I'm fine with that. Move Cain to RF.

I also know that he has the potential to be a superstar, something this team hasn't had in a long time. If it takes some prospects to get a chance at that, I'm fine with that risk.

We can jettison Butler after this season and use a much cheaper option at DH who would likely provide much better offense than what we're getting.

Last year was an injury write-off. This year he's struggling. But based on the 4 years before that, it looks like a classic buy low scenario and unlike Shields, we'd have him for awhile.

You're either all-in or you're a seller in my opinion.

yep

Matt Kemp is complaining about playing time yet he has started 49 of the dodgers last 51 games

Kemp was somebody I mentioned when we were looking at Beltran. Dodgers need a reliever. We need an outfielder. Other than his salary it makes sense for both franchises. Kemp is somebody that can rotate in at DH next year as well.

Can't believe DM blew 20M on three bullpen guys and Chen. The last has been one of the worst pitchers on our rotation in Moores entire term here. Small markets can't allocate precious resources like this

Unless you can promise me that the Royals would have spent the 20M elsewhere, I really don't care how much they are being paid. If it was Chen and Hochevar vs having Coleman and Collins in the bullpen the whole year, what does it really matter?

Red Sox/Dodgers considering Kemp for Lester trade.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/0...edium=facebook

Kemps not going anywhere. Dodgers have 3 possible outfielders that are up for a trade. 2 of the 3 bring nothing to the table. The 3rd being Kemp is actually beneficial. So ya. If its anyone its Crawford and or Ethier.

Yeah, the Dodgers probably ought to go get Lester in an attempt to shore up that rotation. Christ.

Trading Kemp right now makes the team worse. Adding a pitcher for kemp, still makes them worse as they have trouble scoring at times. Its the playoff run, they need bullpen help. It is the main area of need. Unless you count a 5th starter as crucial.

If i were the DOdgers, i'd give the Royals, Either and Crawford for peanuts lol

Because he has 5 years left on his contract and is owed $107 million over that time frame. Even if you chop that in half, that's an enormous and risky commitment for a player's age 30-34 seasons, especially when that player hasn't gotten through a season healthy in 3 years.

Angels just took a 2-1 lead of Detroit in the bottom of the 8th.

Angels beat the Tigers 2-1. Still 5 back of the Tigers.

Jose Guillen was 32 when Moore inked him to a 3-year deal worth $12M per, so I would see 5 at $11Mish per as a hell of a lot less risky for Kemp. Plus, Kemp's upside is tremendously higher than Guillen's ever could have been.

Kemp's highest season WAR: 8.2
Guillen's greatest season WAR: 4.7

Every contract is risky, no doubt, but I don't see this as substantially worrisome at all.

Sorry that might be a little harsh. I didn't see the game today. Did Crow get in?

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Man, huge cluster**** for that last WC spot.

Do you really think Dayton Moore looks at WAR? Based upon some of his comments in years past, I don't think so.

No, I think DM turns on the History Channel when someone asks him to consider WAR.

Yeah, but there are some key differences:

1) 3 years vs. 5 years. Risk is smaller due to the number of years.

2) Kemp has been hurt in 2012, 2013 and 2014. The injury in 2012 was a pretty significant hamstring tear that he doesn't seem to have ever come all the way back from.

I'm not opposed to trading for Kemp (in fact, I'm strongly interested in it). Just needs to be the right deal that balances things out for KC.

I know it won't happen, but just give me Byrd !

If the Royals were a NBA team we would have some great assets to trade with the expiring contracts we have in Shields, Aoki, and Butler.

Byrd is probably more realistic than Kemp, so it MAY happen.

My wish list for RF:

1. Kemp
2. Rios
3. Either
4. Byrd

Ethier is way overpaid and would be last on my list

I don't see Kemp getting back to pre-2012 injury status or even remotely close.

Rios doesn't have anymore pop in his bat that Raul Ibanez does .....

Just give me Byrd ..... the boy can play long ball and this lineup needs just this, a 30 + HR guy.

Honestly, I can't stand the thought of acquiring Rios. Have no ****ing clue why he's so high on this list.

He should be standing next to the list, with super fan Chris--I think that's his name--pissing on him.

Byrd has been in the league since '02 and has never hit more than 24 HRs in a season.

Don't get me wrong, he'd be a big upgrade offensively in RF, but let's not seriously put unrealistic expectations on him.

As tk suggested, Ryan Howard would be truly, truly interesting, if that would become the July surprise.

How long before we can start the WC watch thread?

Looks like this could be his 1st then, he has 20 HR's now, 22 doubles and 60 RBI's.

I don't see how Ryan Howard would work with the FO so big on Hosmer. Howard is not lighting anything up right now and his salary is bigger that Hos.


But Ryan, Yep, we could use a guy like that.

I'm squarely in the camp of "they won't do anything - especially an actual acquisition of someone who would be a significant name and really make an impact on the lineup, just another retread so it "looks" like they trying to make moves, possibly."
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Not that I want to be in that camp or line of thought. I'd be ecstatic if they proved me wrong and made some real moves that were worthy of national chatter.

Ryan Howard would be an abject disaster. Not only is he the worst contract in baseball since Vernon Wells, he's actually a below average offensive player now. His isolated power numbers have, save for staying steady from 2010-11, dropped for seven straight years. He's a below replacement level player who gives you about 90% of what a league average hitter would.

Game 108

Ryan Howard is awful. No thanks.

FWIW, Rios has the Royals on his list of teams he will not be traded to.

Thank God.

Is there a website that will track HRs and how many of them would be HRs at another ballpark?

Ryan Howard has 16 HRs, Marlon Byrd has 20, but what do those numbers look like if they were hitting in Kauffman most of the time and then Target Field and Comerica on the road.

I remember before the HR Derby at the K, Sports Science did a piece where they calculated how many of the participants HRs from the current season would have been HRs at the K and it was pretty cool to see. I believe Cano had 20 or so HRs at that point and only a few, or maybe even 0, would have been HRs at the K.

Looks like their HR production would drop off significantly playing at the K.

www.becauseroyals.com

:LOL:

Good. I hate that prick

Howard is another trade case that, like Matt Kemp, would have to be heavily in favor of the Royals.

That contract is an epic disaster, and Philadelphia would need to eat 80 percent of it for KC to take a stab at giving DH at bats to Ryan Howard.

Like the Kemp deal, the contract is so large and the risk is so high and the current team would have to eat so much of it, it's just highly unlikely.

Now, if Howard were to be WAIVED or CUT by the Phillies, I think the Royals would be one of the teams that is strongly in the running to pick him up as a cheap FA (with Philadelphia still on the hook for the rest of the salary - though I need to research how that works).

His son lives in the KC area, Howard is from Missouri, and they're quite close.

Marlon Byrd has hit 11 home runs at Citizens Bank Ballpark in Philadelphia. 3 of them would not have been home runs had they been hit in Kaufmann Stadium.

Ryan Howard has hit 8 home runs at Citizens Bank. 3 of them would not have been home runs had they been hit in Kaufmann Stadium.

For those wondering, ESPN has a wonderful Home Run Tracker page that allows you to filter by team and then organize by player.

You can pull up a view of each individual home run and then drop a ballpark overlay on it of your choosing.

@Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: #Phillies’ Byrd not option for #Royals. Talks remain stalled with #Mariners; Byrd will waive no-trade only if ’16 option exercised.

Rumors Royals are after Lester

So back to more realistic guys for the Royals. I brought him up before but thought on Josh Willingham?

Link ?

It's not true. However we are interested in Andrew Miller

Yes. Must get more bullpen help :facepalm:

I just saw it on another forum.

Willingham is likely cheap and provides an offensive upgrade. He also can kind of play RF (sort of, in that he can stand out there, can catch fly balls, and can throw. He's not exactly rangy).

It's worth exploring quite a bit.

Where are you seeing this? Makes no sense for KC, considering what Boston wants for him.

I think i read something about Lester not signing an extension with whatever team trades for him. Id rather give up the farm for a more controllable player.

He pretty much sabotaged any possible trade.

I can't link that as I have no idea where I read it, so take it FWIW.

EDIT: Here we are:
http://nesn.com/2014/07/jon-lester-u...ed-by-red-sox/

Is this dingleberry dude every right? About anything?

Dammit

Nobody with a no trade clause is coming here. Fallout from 3 decades of sucking.

Figures Byrd doesn't want to come here. Willingham def should be explored

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@JoshVernier610: 25-year-old RHP pitcher. RT @Ken_Rosenthal Source: #Royals, #BlueJays have made trade. Liam Hendriks headed to KC.

Also got minor league catcher Erik Kratz

That name sounds familiar

Great he has a 3-13 record and a career ERA of 6.06

In 30 ml starts too....has a 8-1 2.33 era in AAA right now. His era is Sanchez bad...I assume insurance for Chen

Depth for Omaha and September callups is what this trade looks like IMO.

What did we give up?

Whoa!http://gifshost.com/062009/1244628717_bomb.gif

Alex Gordon, Greg Holland, Kyle Zimmer :D

Its two AAAA guys, probably just cash and a PITB players.

Mondesi and lamb

Bunch of wiseasses tonight. :D

We gave up Valencia, an actual useful major league player

I would bet that the team only 2 games ahead of us in the playoff standings gave us something good. I'm just sure of it.

@Royals: #Royals acquire C Erik Kratz and RHP Liam Hendriks in a trade with Toronto for 3B Danny Valencia.

Ok...

All in on the Moustakas train again. Ugh.

Hayes DFA'ed.

Colon probably going to be called up.

WTF are you serious

Colon coming up to replace Valencia

If DM does not get a power bat by the trade deadline he deserves to be cut

Well at least that's a plus

@BHIndepMO: Why are you helping one of the teams ahead of you for a playoff spot get better? For a backup catcher. When you have Francisco Pena