A ban might actually help Hootie get his life together.

No it does not. I mean, maybe if you think Hootie is credible.

He stated that's impossible to ban him.

You can't stop The Meat Dragon, you can only hope to contain him.

Please. You really think anything Pat has said has ever impacted a decision I've made? That dude thinks 90% of mod intervention is an injustice.

Or write a novel based on a compilation of his manifestos. It could be published as "The Diary of a Pussy Kid"

I thought he was banned for 18 months once before?

I hope never to be in the path of any meat dragon.

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He was permabanned. I changed it to 2 years because I thought for certain that he would mature in two years. He made it nearly a year before he registered a mult and since he was running under the radar, we looked the other way. But he's not exactly running under the radar now, is he?

It shed light on the facebook interaction that I tracked down when I attempted to write what became a personally-inflicted impalement of a roast. Basically, it elaborated on Hootie's rant from that...makes it less of a head-scratcher as to what he was trying to say. DJ's Left Nut said something about the only way to roast Hootie is to disagree with principles he firmly believes in...the only butt-hurt I knew of from him (and knew how to locate for that matter) was the facebook rant...it stuck out in my head for some reason. So I referenced that situation(a situation I still know nothing about other than Hootie's side of the story) and failed miserably in my attempt.

I don't know if Hootie is credible or not. I don't know the guy.

Oh.

No, he has an RCS the size of a Galaxy. But that's because he's so interesting and entertaining.

I forgot the :Poke: smilie.....

So is he on double-secret probation now, Dean Wormer?

Jesus, either ban Hootie or don't ban Hootie. Posting crap like this (eventually..... he'll..... push..... me...... too far!!!!! Again!!!!!) makes you look as lame as him.

:shake:

Oh he's a swell guy. Anybody that'll boast about date raping somebody is A ok in my book.

Shhhhh. I like to use subtle influence so my puppets don't know they're on strings.

Hadn't really done anything yet, has he?

Private. For crazycoffee's eyes only:

Has no one actually reported this? Wow. Even the zipper slur was reported and it was pretty clear not a properly used slur. I guess I'm not really surprised.....

He is.

My take on Hootie is well-established, but even I recognize that he adds significantly more value as a poster to the board than Phobia does.

IRL there's no doubt in my mind that I'd like Phobia more; Phobia appears to be a grown up.

But on the board, he contributes next to nothing as a poster and the only time I tend to take note of anything he has to say is when he's engaged in yet another pissing match, often because someone has wounded his pride.

Phobia's a pretty lousy poster and an overly-sensitive mod. He's an entirely different type of 'lame' than Meatwhistle, but he's easily as lame in his own way.

If I had to pick a board full of Phobias or a board full of Hooties, I'd take the board full of Phobias, but if I had to excise one phobia from this board or one hootie, I'd drop Phobia well before Hootie.

Phobia doesn't post nearly as much as he used to, but when he posts for fun instead of as a mod or as a participant in one of these ego-jousts, he's an outstanding poster. When I was thinking about how witty Saul Good is with these roasts, Phobia and Taco John came to mind as guys who had some great and witty posts back in the day. I found ChiefsPlanet by following Phobia here from the KC Star board quite a while after the original exodus.

This is astoundingly well put.

may have taken me 15 minutes

I don't think Pootie brings a goddamn bit of value to anything. He's a noxious punk. The End.

I just get tired of Phil threatening to take a stand. Either take a stand or shut up about it.

I'm okay with this criticism. Here's the rub. I've been here a long time. I helped Kyle build this site from 50 pilgrims to what it is today. I say this not asking that you kiss my ass but that you trust that what I'm telling you is based on a lot of experience at running a site like this.

I understand the nuances of an internet community such as this. Hootie and those of his ilk are entertaining and they're typically good for sporadic traffic surges. What they're not good for is long-term community viability. Eventually something has to give and frankly, I'd rather ban 5 Hooties (and have) than risk losing two or three more veteran contributors.

Contrary to what you've been told about my tenure at WPI, I built that place into a half-dozen posts per day board to thousands of posts per day in under a year. I understand and I care. That's why I do some of the things I do on this site. I'm not perfect and I've made plenty of mistakes over the years. I used to have time to take young guys under my wing and integrate them into the community. I don't have time for that any longer so my methods are perceived as harsh or sensitive. That's fine. When Kyle thinks my methods are out of touch and not in the best interest of the long-term growth of ChiefsPlanet he'll ask me to step down and I will.

Riveting stuff! CC is ok in my book. The past it the past.

I love the 'maybe if he gets banned he'll get his life together!' bit.

Right. Because, you know, I don't show up to work every day, work hard, pay my taxes, pay my bills, abide by *most* laws, call my parents/siblings on their birthdays, say please and thank you, tip well, etc. etc. etc.

Sadly, I think I have my life together better than probably most of this board. I wasn't young and dumb and rushed into a marriage that wouldn't work or spouted out 5 kids I couldn't pay for...I was smart enough to realize I wasn't mature enough for that and acted accordingly...

I always find that insult towards me hilarious. In terms of responsibility, I'm one of the most responsible generation Y kids there is...I literally haven't missed a day of work in 9 ****ing years. Work ethic has allowed me to do the things I enjoy doing (boozing, womanizing, etc...)

So yeah.

There are a ton of posters on here whom I really respect that just can't stand hootie, so I feel like I'm missing something obvious about him. I really just don't get it. The "date rape" thing is complete and utter bullshit and everyone knows it. Shitty posters go down that well when he's made them look stupid, and they have to go to the whip. It's like Thatguy playing the race card.

Is he an attention whore? Sure. Who cares? There are tons of those on this board. At least he does it I an entertaining way. The "I'm so great" persona is his shtick. That's not to say that he doesn't believe it, but he lays it on thick because of how worked up people get. It's not hurting anything.

He has good football takes...good basketball takes...good baseball takes... He never admits when he's wrong, but neither does anyone else on the internet. Even when he is proven wrong, he knows what he's talking about, so it's not like his takes are just random and stupid. They're just wrong.

The fact that he gets grown men in their 30s...40s...50s...etc. so worked up over nothing says more about them than it does hootie.

If someone can give me an actual, tangible reason to want hootie banned, please do so. I'm more than willing to reevaluate my opinion of him.

You mean something beyond this?

You have received a permanent ban in the past

If you have received a permanent ban and you come back under another ID, you can be banned at any time for no reason. If you are banned, communication with the forum is prohibited. This means no videos, pictures, or text is to be posted on your behalf in the open forum by a proxy.

This is fair too. I'm not nearly as much fun as I used to be because this used to be my exclusive outlet for silliness. Now I get a portion of that obnoxiousness out on facebook.

You gave me a reason that he could be banned. I am looking for a reason someone should want him to be banned.

God if only Neil Patrick Harris were alive, that ****ing dude loves him.

That's a stupid rule, though.

I think someone who was perma-banned and came back with a mult should be banned, yes.

According to Phobia above, the mods knew it was Hootie and let it slide in the belief that he had matured.

here is my issue with my banning and will always be my issue:

It's ChiefsPlanet.com...during the football season, you're not going to find a single poster that stays more on topic and talks more football than me...and not just generic football, I bring legitimate good takes to the table and no one disagrees.

Phil banned me because he PERSONALLY didn't like the fact I called him out. That's it. I promise.

I say this because Phil left. DaFace was, for quite a bit of time, THE SOLE ACTIVE moderator on this board. I rubbed DaFace the wrong way. I don't think you're going to get DaFace to say he likes me as a poster. I don't think he does. He would interject on many of my "attention whore" posts and tell me how ****ing stupid he thought I was (in a much nicer tone, of course). However, he never banned me or probably even considered it. Why? Because I wasn't breaking the Planet rules...and if I was, regulars get a longer leash (see DaneMcCloud and the reerun breeder incident). He was the absolute voice of reason/used no vendettas against posters. He knew that wasn't his place as a moderator. That's the ChiefsPlanet way. No reason to ban someone just because you don't like them or don't understand their lifestyle etc. etc. etc.

If you can get DaFace to come on here and tell you he agrees that I should have been permabanned then I'll STFU about it. But I don't think he will, because I don't think he did.

It was evidenced in the poll that was started where literally 95% of the voters voted that I DID NOT DESERVED TO BE BANNED. Those were the real stats UNTIL you changed the poll...

I was an everyday regular for 5 years who was pushed to the limits and given ammunation by someone who had already been warned not to use the infraction system to issue a temp ban to me...the dude wanted a reaction and he came to the right guy.

In no way, shape or form did that ever deserve a permaban. AustinChief and I have done nothing but get along since I've been on this board.

No one EVER suggested a banning from me when you were at WPI or Fatchatter and DaFace was running the show. Everyone knew on the Planet...you don't get banned (if you're a regular), unless you spam porn or make life threats. Just because someone was dumb enough to poke me with a stick repeatedly while giving me his life secrets doesn't mean I'm the bad guy.

and again, I'm done with CC. I don't even care anymore. We've exchanged rep and e-shook hands. I love this board, I'll continue to love this board...

and IMHO, I think it's time for you to just get over it. Why can't you just ignore me? Why is it you always have to come into MY threads and tell everyone how much "you get posters like me" and etc. etc. etc.? If you despise me so much, stay away from me...

I have no problems with calling the Phil/Hootie truce where I never mention you or quote you or post about you and you do the same. For some reason, I doubt you'll agree with these stipulations. Why? I'm not sure.

Were tears falling on paper or a keyboard?

it was handwritten

This is untrue. Can you explain why Patteau, Saul Good, Zach, or any other person who has called me out haven't been banned. Remember the thick skull criticism I levied earlier? This is an example of that.

Hootie offering his solemn word in a truce.

Like he did when said he was through with this thread.
Like he did with lumpy because gonzo shut his pussfest whine factory down

anybody have anymore examples of how useless gnarled nuts word is?

if Phil accepts the truce, I will accept a permaban and never come back if I ever mention him by name again as long as he doesn't reference me first.

Well shit.

LMAOLMAOLMAO

Hootie obviously in the Walter Mathau role.

LMAO

Junior High much?

I' hearing "I want him banned again because he was banned before, and if you've been banned before, you should be banned again". Seems like circular reasoning to me.

I'd compare it to people who want to throw people in prison for weed. When you ask why people should go to prison over that they say, "because it can ruin your life". When you ask how it can ruin your life, they answer, "because it's illegal, and you can get thrown in prison for using it".

...and when a cop beats an innocent person and that person fights back, they deserve to be beaten for assaulting an officer.

really?

it's a pretty simple truce.

this thread is almost 8000 posts...everyone is having fun in their own kind of way

if the only fun you have on this site anymore is coming into my threads and telling me how you understand my psychology and it's just tooo bad, that I'm just soooo beyond saving then so be it

I don't care. Whatever.

But stop pretending like I'm a negative for this board when I am CLEARLY a positive. Like me or hate me, I clearly ADD to this board. In a number of ways.

If you have a life sentence then you shouldn't be out in the first place. Just cause you broke out doesn't mean you get to stay there. Sure shit might get overlooked because you seem like a nice guy, keep to yourself and work on the car in the backyard, but sooner or later you've abducted 3 women, are keeping them in the basement and back to your evil wayas.

If you were given a life sentence that you didn't deserve, who cares?

The rule seems rather clear. And, it's rather clear that the mods have been pretty lenient even after he came back as a mult.

things were never overlooked

one of the first posts I made when I returned was in a Halo 4 thread

it was quite evident to anyone who isn't a dipshit (so I realize this doesn't include you) who's mult I was

I'm not the problem child here, bub. I'm out for the night. Enjoy.

fun fact

about a month ago Phil changed my name from Peyton's Princess to Hootie because I helped a Planet member out

I'm such a terrible guy.

I don't play Halo 4.

Hootie isn't innocent.

Just looking to settle this 'beef' we have. You don't like me, you never will...and clearly there is nothing I can do. Was hoping you could just stop threatening a member with a banning who is a clear positive for this board and this 'community.'

my original banning was one of the most debated topics on the history of this website with a poll in my favor 95%

I may not have been "innocent", but the sentence in no way, shape or form fit the crime.

LMAO

I disagree with your assertion that it was undeserved, and you as well as I, know the legal system generally doesn't go oops. Maybe he don't deserve it.

and I'm still pleading innocent for the record

it was a total butterfly effect

you don't give your worst enemy 80% of your ammunition and manpower in a war and expect to win

so you're comparing a democracy to a dictatorship?

you're smart

P.S. No more Clay in this thread. He was removed by a moderator. Gee, I wonder who. I used to think I was the biggest attention whore/drama queen...not quite sure if that's true anymore. I have neck and neck competition.

However, I see the error of my ways. My disdain for hootie, and wendler, for that matter is seriously occupying to much of my time. Think I'll go enjoy some of this nice weather with a good jog or throw some steaks on the grill.

Adios.

Have you ever been mistakenly voted out of a four-person housing situation in a ‘pack first, no talking after’ scenario?

running and red meat...sounds great for the heart

This shit is just dumb. If you want to hate him, then hate him. Put him on ignore. Stop breathlessly awaiting his every post.

If I go to a popular restaurant and hate the food, I don't keep going there every day for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I don't stand outside and picket. I don't lobby to have them shut down. I just go somewhere else the next time I'm hungry.

You guys just keep throwing the food at the waiters and then booking your reservation for the next day. It's insane.

really enjoyed the new season

....most overused, overrated phrase in the history of the planet..it's like cheerleaders in HS

This.

The ones who 'hate' me the most, are the ones that drove this thread into what it turned into.

Seriously ridiculous. And hilarious.

you are absolutely incorrect per usual

this website wouldn't be great without great, valuable posters.

It would be WPI. Or the Coalition. Or Arrowhead Pride.

This board is great because it has a NUMBER of intelligent, witty, football savvy posters that other Chiefs boards SIMPLY do not have OTHERWISE those boards would be where all of the 'best of the best' Chiefs fans would hang out.

Anything else? You've been a miserable poster for years now.

Are you serious? This thread is really nobody's business but yours, mine...and to a lesser extent the roastees and frazod.

This is the best thread the board has had in months...but if certain people can't figure out how to take credit for it, it's open season.

truly "great" posters don't have to blow themselves everyday.

By best, do you mean shit fest or three ring circus?

What did Clay do to get banned from the thread?

true Chiefs fans don't have to attention whore themselves at home games

Existed I'm guessing.

it was a way to cause unnecessary drama from the head moderator

Dude...I like you...but when you dress up in a ****ing sequined jumpsuit for every game, it's kind of hypocritical to criticize others for bringing attention to themselves.

Phil wants to be the most popular poster on the board...but he's not. He's not even close. That's not to say that he's a bad poster. He's a good poster. But he will never be the best poster on a good board. He could be the best poster on a shitty board, but this isn't a shitty board. No board in which he is the best poster will ever be a good board.

He's not LeBron James. He's not even Dwyane Wade. He's Chris Bosh. There's nothing wrong with Chris Bosh until he starts demanding the ball at crunch time.

Right now, he's Chris Bosh if Chris Bosh were a player and the coach. Now he's benching Wade and threatening LeBron.

I've avoided this thread because I don't need validation for my existence here, but this Hootie/Phobia thing has finally drawn me into this thread.

I like Hootie.
I don't know why he was banned, though he is a drama queen, and over reacts to things, and says some pretty stupid shit.

I do know that Phil would not ban anyone for the reason/s that Hootie says he did.

Phobia is a good poster, and good mod, who has always been fair and solid in his decision making on this site.

It's time to move on.