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Iconic 06-24-2017 09:51 AM
I used to feel like we were blessed to have Clark as our owner. But my opinion on him has begun to sour. The only thing the firing of Dorsey has shed to light is that Clark is not the conservative uninvolved owner his image depicts him as.

Marcellus 06-24-2017 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12929846)
Dude, no. I clearly labeled it as grapevine/rumor mill content.

If you think something like that should be confined to a post 250 people are going to see more power to ya but stuff like that needs to be spread around. I put it on twitter, FB and reddit for good measure.

RunKC already said he wasn't upset about it so get a grip.
Frankly I dont care, but its a perfect example of how stuff with zero corroboration or merit gets spread.

For all you know RunKC completely made it all up or his "source" made it up. Its really nothing more concrete than a CP posters opinion.

penbrook 06-24-2017 09:56 AM
Alex Smith has the same MVP odds this year as Jj Watt, Odell, and Gronk.

Marcellus 06-24-2017 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 12929859)
I used to feel like we were blessed to have Clark as our owner. But my opinion on him has begun to sour. The only thing the firing of Dorsey has shed to light is that Clark is not the conservative uninvolved owner his image depicts him as.
Absolutely nothing Clark has said or done since firing Pioli should make you think he was conservative or uninvolved. He has told you the exact opposite himself. Thats why both the GM and coach directly report to HIM. :facepalm:

When YOU arent paying attention to whats being said dont cry about your perceptions being broken or changed.

Hammock Parties 06-24-2017 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12929864)
Alex Smith has the same MVP odds this year as Jj Watt, Odell, and Gronk.
Same chance at the Super Bowl too amirite ROFL

Future HOFER?

Hammock Parties 06-24-2017 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12929862)
Frankly I dont care, but its a perfect example of how stuff with zero corroboration or merit gets spread.

For all you know RunKC completely made it all up or his "source" made it up. Its really nothing more concrete than a CP posters opinion.
That's fine. This is all entertainment. Some people love reading that stuff. I count myself among them.

RunKC 06-24-2017 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12929748)
It was a copy and paste from a post from RunKc in this thread who knows someone who works at Arrowhead.

Clay tweeted it and has been spreading it everywhere as Gospel.
To clarify, I don't know or claim to know anyone who works at Arrowhead. The owner of the company I used to work for is a grandfathered STH who does business with the Chiefs (sponsorships, etc) with Mark Donovan on the business side and knows people who are friends/business associates with Clark.

penbrook 06-24-2017 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12929874)
Same chance at the Super Bowl too amirite ROFL

Future HOFER?
No actually those are the odds that the NFL has put out

Hammock Parties 06-24-2017 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 12929859)
I used to feel like we were blessed to have Clark as our owner. But my opinion on him has begun to sour.
He is the only common denominator since 2006, and we are no closer to a Super Bowl in the decade since.

He is following in his father's footsteps of building teams that are only good enough to flame out to teams with superior QBs in the postseason, with the feather in his cap of winning the division a lot less and firing the GM/HC a lot more.

I don't think Goldman Sachs was a good training ground for running an NFL franchise.

ToxSocks 06-24-2017 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 12929786)
So the coaching staff didn't have anything to do with the success of the safeties off the junk pile? I liked Dorsey a LOT... but doesn't take away from the fact that Dorsey brought in players that other teams couldn't make work, and our coaching staff helped them to perform at higher levels because they were put in a position to be successful!! Our coaching staff has more to do with the players we bring in performing well, than Dorsey did at signing them.
There's no question that our coaching staff plays a significant role in developing these players.

I don't believe that's the issue.

But it takes both an eye for talent and then the ability to develop said talent to build a championship roster.

And we just lost half of that equation.

RunKC 06-24-2017 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 12929859)
I used to feel like we were blessed to have Clark as our owner. But my opinion on him has begun to sour. The only thing the firing of Dorsey has shed to light is that Clark is not the conservative uninvolved owner his image depicts him as.
From all reports, Eric Berry's contract was very difficult for a long time and Andy and Clark had to step in in some way. Whether that is to get it done or get on John for it lingering so long is up for discussion, but it's clear that Clark and even Andy don't want anything to do with that part of the business.

Seems like they want someone else to take care of it so they don't have to meddle.

Marcellus 06-24-2017 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12929877)
To clarify, I don't know or claim to know anyone who works at Arrowhead. The owner of the company I used to work for is a grandfathered STH who does business with the Chiefs (sponsorships, etc) with Mark Donovan on the business side and knows people who are friends/business associates with Clark.
Even furthering my point.

In58men 06-24-2017 10:13 AM
Nobody will ever know the truth. Time to move on.

Marcellus 06-24-2017 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12929883)
There's no question that our coaching staff plays a significant role in developing these players.

I don't believe that's the issue.

But it takes both an eye for talent and then the ability to develop said talent to build a championship roster.

And we just lost half of that equation.
How do you know that? Who is replacing Dorsey and how good is he at his job?

ToxSocks 06-24-2017 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12929895)
How do you know that? Who is replacing Dorsey and how good is he at his job?
Playing the odds here. How many currently employed GM's in the league were better at finding talent in the last 5 years? How many years did it take for the Chiefs to finally find a competent GM?

This roster is regarded by many as one of the top "top to bottom" rosters in the league. We dumped a sure thing for a complete unknown and the odds don't favor us.


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