Is that supposed to make me sad?

ROFL

You are always sad. It's not helping, for sure.

You planning a Pro Bowl Watch Party to cheer on Burrow this weekend?

One thing i will remember though. He's unlikely to contribute anything substantial to your SB, but he schpanked your ass twice, in the AFCCG in '21 and the regular season game in '22.

Not sure. I'll get back to you on that one.

You have no idea how critical Perine has been to this team already.

Great pickup.

I can say with confidence they're not the one seed if they don't have him.

Well, you don't know anything about football so i'll take that with a grain of salt.

Burro in the Pro Bowl. It's just like the Super Bowl, but not Super.

LMAO

That's an empty trophy case talking.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Joe Burrow says &quot;of course&quot; he&#39;s willing to restructure his contract and says he has faith in the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bengals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bengals</a>&#39; ownership: <br><br>&quot;I do. I do. We have the cap space to get it done. Trey, Tee, Ja’Marr, Mike G, we all want to stay together.&quot;<br><br>GET IT DONE, BENGALS �� <a href="https://t.co/WnqAp0o4ak">pic.twitter.com/WnqAp0o4ak</a></p>&mdash; Cincinnati �� (@CincyProblems) <a href="https://twitter.com/CincyProblems/status/1887517008792543720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Burrow apparently isn't smart enough to understand his teams cap space means jack shit to keeping those players, it has to do with how willing the owner is to just drop hundreds of millions of dollars in signing bonuses...which historically they aren't.

Window.


Shut.

Not smart enough? He's trying to pressure them into spending to build a winner by not letting them hide behind the cap. It might be futile, but it isn't stupid.

He certainly isn't considering all the factors.

For starters, restructuring his own contract would require converting salary to bonuses. That's the first big cash disbursement the frugal Brown family would have to make.

This isn't about the cap. The cap can ALWAYS be manipulated. The problem is whether or not owners want to hand out large amounts of cash up front. He plays for one of the worst teams in the league when it comes to that.

He wants to pressure ownership into keeping a team together that missed the playoffs...what?

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Joe wants all the money to go into 2 wr's and one DE? That's a great idea if you are playng against them. Rest of the team will be trash.

No he wants them to keep the stars together. I'm sure he'd also like them to draft well and do other things you need to do. What a moron!

They can't pay all their stars and field an actual team. We aren't talking about one WR and a couple of other positions.

Tee and Chase together could take up over a third of their cap.

This really isn't about any other guy in that team. It's about Higgins. If they pay him AND Chase, they're building the opposite of what the actual contenders in the AFC have done. Good luck with that.

I'd be embarrassed to talk up a team and QB that has always failed to get it done, but here you are.

At least he will put up good stats even if it means having almost no chance at winning a Superbowl.

You can slice and dice it a half a dozen different ways. No surprise Burrow wants them to keep the passing game together. It's the thing that works best for them as a team and of course yes benefits him personally. I don't agree with keeping Higgins due to his injury-prone ways. But Burrow expressing that he's flexible with his own contract and the cap is not the primary roadblock puts some level of pressure on the organization to at least not be cash cheapskates, as they are known to do.

Can't disagree with this.

Maybe he can sell some of his god awful chains the feds got back from the robbers and use that cash to sign Tee.

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JOE IS ALL IN FOR THE 3PEAT

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Joe Burrow picks the Chiefs <a href="https://t.co/wI0xqAgeEO">pic.twitter.com/wI0xqAgeEO</a></p>&mdash; SPORTSRADIO 94WIP (@SportsRadioWIP) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsRadioWIP/status/1887523119797039595?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

it will soon be over for them

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">League executives are well aware of the public pressure Joe Burrow has been applying to the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bengals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bengals</a> since the season ended — and it has continued this week at Radio Row in New Orleans. Burrow has made it clear, both privately and publicly, that the team must do whatever it takes… <a href="https://t.co/QhwYoluF9o">pic.twitter.com/QhwYoluF9o</a></p>&mdash; Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) <a href="https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1887609315596575125?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

My theory that I don't think is that crazy at all....

Joe is doing all this, knowing full well they are NOT going to pay all these guys, setting the stage for him to be act pissed off and eventually pull a Carson Palmer/Matthew Stafford.

That man wants to go the NFC and it is going to happen eventually.

His claim to fame will continue to be he's the only player not named Brady to beat Mahomes in the playoffs.

Burrow should bolt. They're a disgraceful organization unfit to be a contender and always will be.

Just a disgusting organization. ;)

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:Lin::Lin::Lin::Lin:

that is quite the accomplishment, not gonna lie

I had no idea what cinci chili is, they just put over spaghetti? lol

Joe Burrow is ok in my book. I usually like Adam Schein's show on Mad Dog Sirius XM radio when he talks about the NFL, but lately he's been annoying me with his complaining about the Chiefs getting favorable calls from the refs. This morning while driving into work I heard a little bit of Adam Schein's interview with Joe Burrow. Here's the transcript from the show's website. Burrow handled the question with class, showing that he's not one of those losers who blames the refs for getting beat.

Yeppers :shake:

Just watched the highlights from the Week 2 game. Crazy game. Burrow and that Bengals team have been a great rival - and you can tell that unlike the friendship Mahomes has with Allen, Patrick and Burrow seem to really get under each other’s skin. That win ended up being significant. Burrow’s Bengals would have had a real shot to take out Allen and the Bills in a 2-7 matchup. The Bengals also likely keep Lou if they made it to the postseason.

I would think the Bengals have to keep two of Chase, Hendrickson and Higgins to keep the band together. If they only keep Chase, they’re at risk of giving up an all time fumble of what should have been a Super Bowl winning team (the Rams had a MASH unit on O and only Stafford & Kupp - and then a year later the Chiefs had a MASH unit on O with an injured Patrick and Kelce - they had a title right there and couldn’t get it done).

Would the 90’s Pacers be a comp for them if they don’t get a ring out of this team?

Well, it's because i'm a man, son.

I would absolutely keep Hendrickson and Chase. This is about Higgins. You just can't pay WR1 money to a WR2 and expect to fill all the other areas on the field. You have to allow for evaluation failures because even the best front offices miss on draft picks.

It's not signing bonuses and it never has been. It's the guaranteed money.

Escrow, signing bonus, number of years, big money contracts. They do that stuff. What they don't like to do is big money guarantees for multiple years. They can't stand the thought that they would have to pay for someone if they weren't getting some kind of production from them.

Signing bonuses are guaranteed money. Full stop.

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Signing bonus is an up front payment that the team is allowed to spread over a maximum of 5 years for "cap reasons". It's basically considered part of the contract that you give at the time of signing.

Guaranteed money is money that you may potentally pay for little or no production, ala Deshaun Watson. The Browns gave gotten nearly nothing for all that money. That's exactly the type of thing that gives the Bengals FO hives. They simply do not want to take that chance, like other teams readily do.

The signing bonus isn't paid in installments. They prorate the bonus over the length of the contract for the purposes of figuring the cap allocation.

A signing bonus, by definition, is paid when the player signs their contract. The instant they sign the contract, that signing bonus is paid to them in full. Teams can use roster bonuses to move bonuses to future years but signing bonuses are signing bonuses.

The Browns probably can't pay out that much cash all at once without taking out a damn loan. We could be talking close to a half billion dollars for these 3 players.

What a sham.

Lamar had the most impressive year by a Qb in NFL history

He should have won

Fauker, your qb is gay.

Get over it

That's what i said.

I'm not quite sure how you came up with 500M for 3 players (assuming you're talking about bonuses and guarantees), since the entirety of the 3 contracts would probably fall a bit short of that, but they have enough money for what they would actually have to pay.

Just to argue whether or not it could be done, here is the AAV at time of signing for the top 5 salaries of each NFL team.

https://i.ibb.co/fdQGWGxH/contracts.jpg

Actual cap hits for '25 are:
Burrow - 46M
Chase - 22M
Tee - 26M
Trey - 19M
OBj - 15M
Total - 128M

If Burrow restructures, the actual cap hits will be more like
Burrow - 30M
Chase - 10M
Tee - 26M
Trey - 20M
OBj - 15M
Total - 101M

30M would be a ceiling for a new Burrow contract. Could go down to 19M or so. The Chase contract would be sub 20M for the first 2 years before going up and the Tee contract would be the reverse--big money early then dwindling later--to stack so the contracts don't hit big in the same year. The cap goes up each year and the Bengals will have 44Mish this year + another 30Mish after a couple cuts.

The problem is, they're going to need to stop being dumb and realize you only have a short time to take advantage of an elite QB and they've already wasted 5 years of his career with nothing to show. They need to be willing to push money, use void years and pay guarantees.

Priority 1 and 1A will the improvements to the Oline--they need 2 new guards--and then the D, where they need 3 new guys. You could argue, since they have guys coming off SE injuries, they could just go after 1 guy for the Dline and a safety. After OBj's 15M, they have 2 guys making 10M per and one of them could be cut. Rankins will be gone.

If we're talking, is it a good idea to sign Ja'Marr, Tee and Trey to raises, the answer is 'not really' but if we're talking can they do it, the answer is yeah, they can.

I literally haven't read your post, but I think you and htismaqe are talking about different things, you are talking cap and he is talking cash - the owner has to have the actual cash in hand to pay bonuses on the signing date AND all guaranteed money for the life of a contract has to go in escrow, on the signing date. It's probably where the 500m figure was coming from.

Joe telling his GM to find the money for his 2wrs and his DE is pure awsome. If they do it will menace he never gets a ring. Rest of the team will suffer from making such bad decisions

Chiefs are coming for Trey this offseason. He will be a thorn in the Been’gals side the entirety of his second contract! Besides wouldn’t you rather him win a championship or 3 instead of being the best player on a bad defense?

They have enough cash. I'm talking about mentality. They don't have a problem with years, total money or some guarantees.

They despise big guarantees and void years.

If you bother to look at the cap and understand structure, you'd know they could do it and it wouldn't screw anything.

That doesn't go for every team. It goes for cheap orgs that manage--and hoard--money, to the penny...like the Bengals.

Trey and Chris Jones on the same Dline. No one would ever score on you. Keep hope alive bruddah!!

His team couldn't even make the playoffs...

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Rats are jumping ship.

https://x.com/brgridiron/status/1889...G1Yx45dPTqx9Kg

OMG! This is the best news i've heard all day.

Just checking in on the Bengals SB count:

0

Ok, my work here is done

Seems like a lot of panic from Bungholes fans today on social media about Burrow not being happy with their front office/direction of the team.

that should be predictable with Mike Brown

Like Rodgers following Farve's path to the Jets. Maybe Burrow gets traded to the Raiders like Palmer

RFaulk you in on this? LMAO

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Why are they so afraid of losing Higgins? Sky is falling over one number 2 wr?

Let's say they do keep both. Chase gets 38 mil per year and Higgins gets 32. There is only one football. One them will have a massively reloaded contract and do almost nothing.

If Joe can't be great without Higgins and Chase together then his isn't that great. I would say the same about any QB. Let's see Hurts win another SB when there is no Barkly or Brown. Smith hasn't been paid yet. Let's see when other players want money, and the defense starts to falter.

Nah, i'm good.

Those numbers are way too high. They have the money and structure to sign both and get FAs.

I don't give a shit at this point. I'm tired of debating what is a tried and true method of being a successful franchise and what the Bengals want to do.

Just get this shit over with and lets get the season started and start winning some ****ing football games.

I don't follow the Bengals super close but it seems like getting rid of Higgins and using the picks and the money to build a defense would be the smart move. you can do a lot with Burrow, Chase and Iosivas or whatever his name is. The defense was god awful and a massive liability

It's gonna be interesting. If the Bengals sign Higgins and Chase they're basically doing the opposite of what every other AFC playoff team has done. Either they're geniuses or they're idiots. Not much middle ground.

Just get Trey Hendrickson off that damn team, please.

He's the only thing holding that defense somewhat intact.

They would be stupid to get rid of him in favor of Tee Higgins.

I know the answer to that one but i think i'll keep it to myself...

Hey man, being totally sincere here but I think you have to have some hope. Trying something completely different might actually work. Like I said, it seems like all of the contenders in the AFC are doing it but only the Chiefs have actually made the Super Bowl doing it. None of them, save the Bengals of all teams, have made it to the Super Bowl.

I don't really have an issue with them doing it as long as they re-sign Trey, they get a legitimate pass rusher and a legitimate safety to tie the back end together. As well as 2 new guards to fix the Oline. That's the bare minimum they need right now.

I don't see how you can have big money guaranteed into two Wr's and your QB but the rest of the team is good enough.

Regardless of what they do if they keep drafting like idiots they're totally ****ed.

LMAOLMAOLMAO

What a fantasy you've created for yourself.

LMAO

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gjr1X61W...jpg&name=large

I personally wouldn't sign Higgins. All I'm saying is that if the Bengals do, they are doing A while the rest of the AFC is doing X.

It's either going to fail spectacularly or they're going to shock some people. I'm leaning towards failure but if it doesn't fail, they may find themselves ahead of the next curve.

I could have sworn that I read somewhere that he requested a trade but it could have been some click bait shit

Philly is doing it. Void Years is the way. Big money QB, two big money receivers, big money OL, big money RB, big money tight end.