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kccrow 06-24-2017 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 12929695)
I still don't buy that Dorsey was going jump ship on his own accord especially after making the deal of the century for the Chiefs. He was ecstatic over drafting Mahomes II and was clearly looking at building this team his way so all he has done was to build a legacy in winning championships for Kansas City Chiefs only that legacy now is only going be on the success of developing his young quarterback prospect. His wife and family are embedded in Kansas City.

This just doesn't make since to me other than John Dorsey and Clark Hunt didn't see eye to eye and Clark wanted it his way. They must have disputed more than once and you just don't cross the boss.

Could be possible, but if Clark is only willing to work with "yes men," then he's a terrible ****ing boss to begin with. Most owners I know would rather someone in a high-ranking position that is willing to say "no" and offer legitimate rebuttal, than someone that kisses their feet. It's a counter-balance for the stupidity of trying to run a large company solo.

This entire move smells, and I really don't think that the reasoning behind it could be legitimized. The conjectures that make the most sense are all terrible reasons to fire one of the best GMs in the league. Moves like this just aren't made, especially now.

The Chiefs aren't in cap hell, so I dispel that theory. They may have mismanaged contract negotiations, but that position was addressed a month ago. They can cut some fat on the roster with Smith, Hali, Johnson, and so forth next season and be in prime shape cap-wise.

Dorsey and Reid have a friendship that extends decades longer than Reid's closeness to Maclin, so I dispel the theory that Maclin's cutting enraged Reid to the extent he'd ask for his buddy's firing.

PAChiefsGuy 06-24-2017 12:54 AM

We'll never know.. Point is he is gone and it should not have happened. But regardless we have to move on and get ready for the season.

Baby Lee 06-24-2017 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 12929697)
I did find it odd that Justin Houston said he "didn't contact KC" about if he would be at practice. They are paying him like $20 million a year...poor fellow cant find the time to use the phone. He seemed pretty curt in his response about it too (which I found strange at the time..chalked it up to ego)...Berry and he are buds.

If these two conspired to get him fired..then **** them. They both got stellar contracts well beyond what they have delivered.

I'd go so far as to say Dorsey could have used their money to make the team better...ungrateful brats.

Yeah, if they're going to be that big of prima donnas, when they aren't even on the right side of the ball to be 'the most important position in all of sporting endeavor,' forget dragging Alex to anything, they better perform well enough to drag JaFatass Russell at QB and Hurtis Penis at RB to the SB.

kccrow 06-24-2017 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 12929701)
We'll never know.. Point is he is gone and it should not have happened. But regardless we have to move on and get ready for the season.

I have a lot of problems the past x0 years that make it hard to move on from shit like this. I mean, you finally have a solid coach and a really good GM, and you **** it for what exactly? There's literally no logical connection to hang your hat on. If Clark hires Veach, I might have some hope. If he doesn't, I'll be quite hesitant to have any.

BlackOp 06-24-2017 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12929703)
Yeah, if they're going to be that big of prima donnas, when they aren't even on the right side of the ball to be 'the most important position in all of sporting endeavor,' forget dragging Alex to anything, they better perform well enough to drag JaFatass Russell at QB and Hurtis Penis at RB to the SB.

The plot is getting progressively more thick...you have two veteran "superstar" locker-room leaders, who both got massive contracts, not showing up for practice, Reid being pissy.. Maclin being a surprise cut and Charles disgruntled...then the stellar GM is fired out of nowhere.

I guess these two liked being 2-14....idiots. What do they care..they got payed.

Shit is getting ****ed-up in Chiefland. Sounds like Hunt was trying to hold the locker room together...and Dorsey got fired for being a great GM. Belichick can get away with impersonal roster decisions because he has the trophies..and the owner has his back. In KC it's all about the "feels" and mediocrity.

The players now dictate who makes the decisions...Hunt is a rich-kid pussy. Dorsey was 22-4 over the last 26...how does that get you fired? You should be untouchable. This is a blackeye...spineless ownership.

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-24-2017 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 12929684)
Politics are gross...and Berry is being a bitch. (if this is true) They paid him during his rehab. He wanted rockstar money...and until last season..hadn't lived quite up to his billing. Chiefs took care of him...period.

Dorsey's job was to look after/protect his TEAM...not just a marketable cancer survivor. How is he supposed to know if the cancer will reemerge? Give him a shitload of guaranteed money only to have him vanish again? He looks like a fool in that situation..thats the type of shit that gets you fired (ironically).

This cant be true..can it? Berry still pouting and missing practice after the contract they just gave him?

Dorsey took a 2-14 team and flipped it into a 12-4 record with serious injuries to their star players. Props...his depth made that happen. Reid too but there was SB caliber chemistry there.

This was a terrible scenario...Hunt's going to regret it.

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 12929692)
Dorsey was anything but a bad GM. All this horseshit getting spewed around here is ****ing ridiculous. Dorsey is a damned good GM. My conjecture has nothing to do with his abilities to actually do his job. If it ever comes to light that Clark though he was doing a bad job, then Clark should probably sell the team and find a new side job.

This likely came down to money or loyalty going forward (as in potentially leaving for GB), and I doubt anything else.

Good to see some spine showing up in here.

Eventually, all of the details are going to come out. And when they do, I doubt we'll find Hunt on the right side of history.
Why?
Because typical Chief is typical. And, as you have already pointed out, the whole thing is beyond all logical possibilities and it smells to high hell.

Rasputin 06-24-2017 02:34 AM

Honest to God I'd rather have John Dorsey as GM than Andy Reid as HC and let Dorsey pick our next HC and continue drafting for our future.

cmdrzman 06-24-2017 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12928995)
Shut the **** up, Dummy

You would do this board and yourself a big favor if you would spend just a little more time researching facts before your fat fingers bang the submit reply button-

Urc Burry 06-24-2017 04:19 AM

I loved Dorsey as much as the next guy. But to think we're just going to become irrelevant is nonsense. He wasn't a one man show.. outside of Ballard we have the same personnel and scouting guys. They wouldn't have let Dorsey go if they didn't have someone ready to replace him

Red Dawg 06-24-2017 04:32 AM

I feel like we are missing a key piece to the mystery that we may never get. There we no signals of this happening, all information pointed to an extension. It feels like Clark wanted assurances that he wouldn't bail for GB in a few years and maybe Dorsey wasn't willing to sign a deal that guaranteed it.

I don't like the move but the HC is more important in my book. Players are not drawn to a GM like they are an HC. Veech will do fine and surely will get the job.

TimeForWasp 06-24-2017 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 12928566)
I communicate regularly with Dorsey's dentist in GB. We went to dental school together.

Is it like pulling teeth to get information out of him?

threebag 06-24-2017 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 12929693)
Look at who posted it bfett81

That was a Clay Moniker at one time.

the dude is a low rent hack.

Marcellus 06-24-2017 05:23 AM

I love how people miss that Clark was the guy who hired Dorsey, he has the ability to hire another top notch GM.

Dorsey was good, he wasn't the best and there are numerous examples of bad contracts.

He was good, he isn't irreplaceable.

Marcellus 06-24-2017 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 12929744)
the dude is a low rent hack.

It was a copy and paste from a post from RunKc in this thread who knows someone who works at Arrowhead.

Clay tweeted it and has been spreading it everywhere as Gospel.

ChiefRocka 06-24-2017 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 12929744)
the dude is a low rent hack.

After all these years I'm just now noticing your avatar has 2 bitches in it. Classic!

EDIT: I legit thought she was popping a squat to take a piss and questioned why CP would allow displayed vag


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