|
I believe we are close. Billy/Hos/aoki/moose need to be traded for whatever they can get. Plus cash considerations. What about Arizona 1st and 3rd basemen? Basically we are paying all the salaries and dumping our turds as only needing a change of place.
Trade one of our ace closers. I would try and resign shields. His maturity and approach rubbed off on the other players even on his down year. 2 year extension. can yost, players need someone new that does not baby our batters about how special they are. Dayton, I am not sure what you can do. His picks have mostly flopped. But who can you bring in. I would love cerner guys to own the team. MLB would not allow it. Good Ole boys network. If they did probably force them to sell skc. |
We need a Yoenis Cespedes/Yasel Puig. Surely there has to be Cuban prospect we could sign that could come in and make an impact immediately.
Or not? Time for another 8-10 year plan? |
Quote:
|
Quote:
http://www.ramblingmorons.com/wp-con...4-17-14-53.jpg |
Quote:
The one thing he really does have on his side is that he's never missed significant time with an injury. In fact, him skipping the start earlier this year is the first time I can remember him missing a start with injury. But yes, like most hard-throwing pitchers, he eventually will have to get TJ surgery. |
I'm just going to leave this here (backs away slowly)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Wilmington hitters have expanded the zone so much today. Would guess over 10x; helping Sims out.</p>— CJ Wittmann (@CJWittJr) <a href="https://twitter.com/CJWittJr/statuses/491267528379756545">July 21, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
Quote:
Part of me thinks this is a hidden troll moment in your post. I'm not sure there is any combination of 4 Royals the Dbacks woukd take for Paul Goldschmidt. I can promise you it would not be the 4 you mentioned. Goldschmidt is everything Hos and Moustakas aren't and Billy Butler is worthless in the NL. |
Quote:
|
Evidence that the developmental process is completely ****ed up. Hitters at that level showing zero strikezone awareness and/or plate discipline.
|
Quote:
Quote:
It's an organizational issue that doesn't appear to have been addressed or fixed. I heard JJ Picollo blathering about this on a podcast the other day. Not awe-inspiring. Basically, heavy on patience and "individual approach" and light on accountability. So pretty much exactly the Royals' problems in a nutshell. |
Also, lack of strikezone awareness is as much about scouting as it is about development. Seitzer claims that it can be developed to a point, but that your eye for the zone is established by about the soph. year in college (or I'd assume equivalent time in the minors, though he didn't specify in this regard).
|
Quote:
|
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Moore says the team does not plan to be deadline sellers. “We’re going to keep pushing until the standings say that we’re done.”</p>— Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/491616589926514688">July 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
Quote:
|
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a>' Moore on trade rumors: "We're not just one hitter away...we've got a lot of holes right now."</p>— Jeffrey Flanagan (@jflanagankc) <a href="https://twitter.com/jflanagankc/statuses/491618313651224576">July 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Christ, then how can you have faith this team's gonna compete? <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Moore: "I’m accountable for this . . . I don’t blame the players. I don’t blame coaches. I don’t blame managers. I don’t blame ownership."</p>— Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/491618396098658304">July 22, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Great. Now define "accountable." How should we hold you accountable for this? By losing your job? |
Going down with the ship. Good times for fans.
Could help the club now and in the future, but the soon-to-be-fired mother****er is more concerned about his job than the welfare of the club. |
Quote:
1.) We aren't sellers until the standings say we are out of it, meaning middle September, when you can't sell to anyone at that point 2. We are more than one player away, which means he's justifying why they won't make a deal for just one player who could help out 3. He's accountable, but the organization won't really hold anyone accountable for this ****ing mess. #beingroyally****edsincenovember1985 |
Edgar needs to give GMDM a big ole spankin!
|
Quote:
No kidding...it' snot Butler's fault he can't hit, run, field, throw |
GMDM is going to try and save his ass. Keep losing royals
|
Quote:
Best case scenario would be Moore stepping away without making any major moves to acquire talent. Keep whoever the Royals have working in Latin America, and the people that have been working with the pitching prospects since they canned Rick Knapp. Everything else is flushable. New GM would inherit a hell of a lot more at MLB and in the minors than Dayton More did. |
What a cluster**** all I can do is LMAO because it's better than :deevee:
|
The "good news" is that the team isn't on life support. It's now officially mediocre, which is indeed better than when Moore arrived.
Because Kansas City. At least we have the Chiefs. FML. |
Earlier in the year, the Royals were somewhat masking their abysmal OPS with timely hitting with runners on. Not anymore. FWIW, for the season they have scored almost exactly the number of runs OPS predicted they would score.
Problem is not hitting with RISP. All teams are streaky. The problem is that our hitters and our hitting approach sucks. Strike zone management is a tool, and our guys don't have enough of it to hit major league pitching. It's time to flush this old-school, anti-Moneyball turd, Dayton Moore. The guy is a decent to good pitching scout and nothing more. |
Quote:
|
The zone recognition stuff in our system might be the most disheartening stuff I've ever read regarding both KC sports teams. That makes the firing of Moore feel like you just had your peehole swabbed out of gonorrhea but there's still the ass cancer left to treat. This guy is going to make Vermeil's departure look Billy Butler's kitchen.
|
We laugh to keep from crying around here a lot. Sometimes sarcasm is a better choice than apathy. We all knew the offense was going to be weak this year, but I don't think anybody thought it would be this bad. Omar Infante leads the teams in RBI for crissake.
Butler has totally tanked. Does anybody have the stat on how many DPs he's hit into this year, and what his K to walk ratio is? We know he's hit three homers. He has to be trending towards having the worst year ever as a full time DH. Moose ....why? This guy can't hit his weight. Why is DM so high on him? Just about every starter has had an 0 for 20 plus slump, including Gordon and Salvey. Infante has been the most consistent, but he's been unreliable with injury bug. Aoki has been a disaster. Esky's bat has been better, but he's been having defensive lapses. Such a mixed bag this year. I'm frankly surprised they've even been in the hunt playing like this, but the whole AL Central is mediocre this year, so we've got that going for us. |
Quote:
A good GM could do things quickly with what he's inheriting after this season, if brought in. Two under-25 SP who have proven to be front-line type starters (Duffy and Ventura) A tremendous under-25 catcher who is a GG defender and plus bat, and is signed long-term, and for peanuts Great defenders who can be above-average contributors offensively at SS and CF (also under 30 and controlled for several years) A star-level LF A top 10-ish farm system with a lot of high-upside arms (Zimmer, Finnegan, Manaea, Almonte, Pedro Fernandez) |
Doesn't matter what a new GM would inherit, every single candidate would jump at any chance to be one. Only 30 available and they rarely turn over.
|
So let me get this straight. By not panicking and trading away all the MiL assets for a quixotic run at a WC play-in game, Moore is showing admirable restraint and suggesting he doesn't fear for his job safety.
Yet, by not trading Shields, Davis/Holland and others at the deadline to bolster the team for 2015-16 (the length of his current contract), and by stubbornly insisting the team will hold tight and play out the string, he's acting as if he needs to at least finish around .500 to keep his job. So we're NOT going to try to win 88+ games and compete for WC2, but ARE going to try to win 80-83 games? This is what Year 8 1/2 of the Moore Era is? The GM admits we have too many holes to compete, but won't do anything to fix them? What madness is this? |
Quote:
|
BTW, Yankees acquired Chase Headley
|
Chase Heddy?
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
I would trade Davis simply because we know that Holland can save games, don't know if Wade has the mental makeup to do that for sure. I would let some other team find out.
|
Quote:
Davis has been downright dominating this year. |
Quote:
I like Holland and would prefer to keep him around. Davis has some of that Hocheaver aroma about him for some reason... |
The way Ned uses Wade Davis is essentially as a closer as is...
He's strictly the 8th inning guy in games we're winning by 3 runs or less. The dude has flat out filthy closer stuff. In terms of relievers with filthy, shutdown, elite closer stuff...we're talking Kimbrel, Holland, Wade Davis, Dellin Betances...the fact we have two of these guys is awesome. Davis is cheaper. Advertise a Holland/Shields package and net a Samardzija return and I'll be happy. |
Again, there's nothing for DM to analyze. His offense is a blood-splattered late term abortion. He's had all last year to watch them suck + 100 games this year. They are what they are, and it will not change. Expecting to get "hot" may work....for a short while. The reality always hits because math always wins out.
|
Quote:
Trust me Moore, your team's inability to hit anything but AA pitching is all you need to know! You have the most unclutch, slowest, and bull-headed DH ever, and THAT'S his only job! Yeah, you're toast unless MLB makes them throw those neon-colored softballs (with bright red laces) to your team! Moore, YOU'RE A ****ER! YOU'RE USELESS, AND YOU SUCK AT WHAT YOU DO! YOU'RE LIKE THE BILLY "FATTY" BUTLER OF GMs... |
Quote:
1) Eric Hosmer being the player he was from June 1 on (.318/.367/.494, 23 HR, 35 2B) 2) Billy Butler's down 2013 season being an aberration. There were reasonable reasons to be optimistic about both. I chose to be optimistic about them. But neither has played close to expectations. If those two are both .850 OPS players, with the way the rest of the team has performed, it's a better than league average offense. If those two are even .750 OPS players, it's about league average. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Chiefs season starts today!! I got this in the mail!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtKuUakCMAAOgHA.jpg |
I'll be there tonight.
Pray for me. |
And by pray for me I mean so that I am not emotionally beaten from the Royals or physically beaten by scumbag White Sux fans.
|
Quote:
To be honest, as I was reading it, I thought "Who is this Doofus who loves that ****ing Dayton Moore so much?". I was appalled to see that I was the one who wrote it. I obviously feel different today. |
Quote:
Hopefully Chen pitches well and we can score a few runs tonight. |
Quote:
But thanks man |
ROBIN gets the game thread tonight so everyone back off!!!
|
No Cain, Perez, or Hosmer tonight. Enjoy the game.
|
Quote:
|
Well at least DM is taking full responsibility for it.
Now fall on your sword and GTFO Dayton! |
We're going to rally around Nori's 5'9" 160lb ass and play good baseball.
Shocking to me that a player with this build struggles to hit the ball out of the infield with regularity. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Looks like Perez is playing?
Hosmer and Cain out. |
CF: Jarrod Dyson
2B: Omar Infante LF: Alex Gordon C: Salvador Perez 3B: Mike Moustakas 1B: Billy Butler DH: Raul Ibanez SS: Alcides Escobar RF: Norichika Aoki man on fire falling out of window gif |
Quote:
|
Quote:
"Welcome to Omaha Storm Chasers baseball, from Chicago, I'm Denny Matthews!" |
Quote:
|
Hosmer is hurt, Salvy is in, and we are facing a righty which Dyson has hit well this year against. Okay lineup makes sense now.
|
Quote:
|
Players only meeting.... the end is in our neighborhood, on our street and creeping towards our driveway.
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Are these guys still doing their silly little hand gestures when they slap a routine single?
|
Quote:
|
This place is pretty dead, unsurprisingly.
|
Quote:
When you're good, you're good. |
Pretty good number of Royals fans here
|
Sitting at a bar and grill across the street from the park and suddenly 300 people holding signs that say "peace" inside a Chicago flag are marching around the park.
Go Chicago! |
Anybody see this great quote from the Yoster himself..."I think we have guys who definitely can hit for power, Yost said. You don't believe me, just watch batting practice. We pound balls out of the ballpark." This makes a damn good signature for Royals baseball. By the way Ned, I've heard stories of pitchers pounding balls out of the ballpark during batting practice...sooo good point.
|
Quote:
|
PETE, tonight we need you. We ride and die with your thread. Please start it.
|
| All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:45 PM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
