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DeezNutz 07-21-2014 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10758349)
Royals are looking for a bat which they need yet fans are bitching about that.

Because the options that are listed are ****ing terrible.

Unsmooth-Moment 07-21-2014 03:01 PM

Replace Butler with Rios.

DeezNutz 07-21-2014 03:03 PM

How could we not be excited about Rios and his 0.4 WAR complemented by a ridiculous salary for his marginally talented ass?

That's an exciting ****ing move right there. Is Jose Guillen available?

Mother****erJones 07-21-2014 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 10758350)
If they get this guy they either have to bench Aoki or Butler. Wasn't Rios with the White Sox before Texas?

Ya, he was good one year, bad the next, good after that then bad again.

gblowfish 07-21-2014 03:06 PM

Seems like the last Texas outfielder we went out and got was Juan Gone. Ruh-roh....

Jerm 07-21-2014 03:08 PM

Kicker to it is we'll more than likely vastly overpay too...

Unsmooth-Moment 07-21-2014 03:11 PM

I think he would be a good option at DH. Plus he can fill in in the outfield to give some guys a day off/let Salvy play as DH a few times.

Edit: He would need to come cheap though. I'd say a C prospect or something.

DeezNutz 07-21-2014 03:28 PM

Or...we could take any replacement level player, put him in RF and get the same results for no cost.

SAUTO 07-21-2014 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 10758407)
Or...we could take any replacement level player, put him in RF and get the same results for no cost.

exactly

Anyong Bluth 07-21-2014 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10757631)
I wonder how much time Dayton has left?







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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 10757674)
dingleberry asking isn't enough?

More importantly, I ask because I am not familiar with "the list" of up and coming front office guys rumored to be targeted for a GM gig as well as a manager.

So, who would be a couple of names for each job, and why? Namely, what you have heard about the guy that would make him a hire we can look back on in a couple of years and say that was a hire all of MLB envies in retrospect?

DeezNutz 07-21-2014 03:41 PM

People are talking about upgrading Aoki or Butler, and they are a respective -0.6 and -0.7 WAR.

It's not going to be ****ing tough to get better than this.

Rios can be really, really good. The problem is that he's far from consistent. Been in the league 13 years and has had 4 really good years, posting 4.6, 4.8, 5.6, and 5.9 WAR in these years.

One year at 3.3 WAR, and everything else is meh.

Now, if we can trade for him and simply take on salary, awesome. If we have to give up a viable piece to have the right to his contract, well then **** that.

Hootie 07-21-2014 03:46 PM

Hey Deez...

I agree. However, where do we find this replacement level player? lol

ChiefsCountry 07-21-2014 03:46 PM

Rios is at 12.5 for this year, with a team option for 13.5 next season with a million dollar buyout.

Hootie 07-21-2014 03:49 PM

I can promise everyone this...

It's not going to take an arm and a leg for Alex Rios. And if he fills in well for us, we can pick up his option for $1M more than Billy Butler's option that we were *presumably* going to pick up before he decided to become the worst DH in the history of DH'ing.

Anyong Bluth 07-21-2014 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10757915)
Their combined net worth is something like $6-7 billion dollars, minimum (Illig and Patterson are $6 billion combined, and the other guys have to be bringing SOMETHING to the table). Most of Glass's net worth is tied up in the Royals franchise (I think he's about $700 million, with $500 million of that being the Royals).

The salary is restricted by the league, but those guys have spent considerably more than their peers on everything around the team (and really understand how to create fan experience - SEC football teams are consulting with them to pick up pointers on that).

They also made big personal investments in a soccer-only stadium and complex because they understand you have to spend it to make it.

I'd spontaneously orgasm that very second if I found out that Sporting's ownership group bought the Royals.
Honestly, having Glass as owner feels like the franchise is just in a perpetual hostage state, because they will never truly care about really winning and being a sustained contender. The family are Cards fans. Tough go of it when your ownership isn't even a fan or vested in the club they own.

DeezNutz 07-21-2014 03:52 PM

Yeah, there's the rub. The "greatest farm system" in history doesn't even have replacement-level players available at AAA.

Gio would likely offer this as a DH, though he was at -0.1 oWAR this year in limited action.

gblowfish 07-21-2014 03:57 PM

They should just DFA Aoki and bring somebody up from the minors to shake up Butler. Sit his ass for two weeks.

Is Ibanez still on the team? If so, why?

Next Saturday is Faith and Family Night at Kauffman Stadium.

I think I'm going to write Toby Cook and demand the Royals have "Agnostic and Atheist Night." Because after watching this team for the last 30 years, one could rationally question if there IS a God. And if so, why did 1985 piss him off so much?

Nzoner 07-21-2014 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth (Post 10758431)
The family are Cards fans. Tough go of it when your ownership isn't even a fan or vested in the club they own.

Sounds like a helluva plan though,buy the cross state rival,make some profit and don't worry about having another contender in the state.

duncan_idaho 07-21-2014 04:02 PM

If the plan is to acquire Alex Rios to be primarily the Royals DH, with him replacing Butler on the roster, this is a positive move. Rios' defense has not graded out well this season, but his offense would be a valuable addition.

Rios has a .765 OPS, which would be the second-best OPS on the Royals. Rios has a 110 OPS+, which again would be second on the Royals.

For all intents and purposes, you'd basically be adding a RH-hitting Alex Gordon to the lineup. He is the 31st-ranked OF in mlb in terms of OPS, 16th in the American League. If played exclusively at DH, he'd still be the 7th-most productive DH in baseball. Which would help the O...

If the idea is that he plays everyday in RF, it still helps the offense, but at the expense of the defense.

Rios is a little bit of a sulker, with questions about his motivation, but he has responded well when added to teams "in the mix" in the past. Coming to a team that's trying to win might make a big difference for him in terms of effort and therefore performance.

It's not a "WOW!" deal, but it wouldn't have a "WOW" cost either, and would help the offensive side of the ball much more than an Aoki or Dyson or even a Butler is likely to give you in the second half.

gblowfish 07-21-2014 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner (Post 10758442)
Sounds like a helluva plan though,buy the cross state rival,make some profit and don't worry about having another contender in the state.

I'm frankly surprised the Royals haven't been a feeder team for the Cardinals, like the old KC A's were for the Yankees.

I'm sure Glass is thinking how much Salvie could help the Cards now that Molina is out for the year....

Deberg_1990 07-21-2014 04:08 PM

That Mellinger column is spot on.

This organization has continued to spit in the face of its fans in "big moments" over and over again. Frankly im surprised there are still fans and a season ticket base out there. How much more can these people take????? 30 years.....good grief.

Anyong Bluth 07-21-2014 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner (Post 10758442)
Sounds like a helluva plan though,buy the cross state rival,make some profit and don't worry about having another contender in the state.

One very rich man's ultimate payback for the '85 WS.

/ tears in beers

BWillie 07-21-2014 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10757759)
Relevance?

Sporting Ownership can't afford the Royals, in all probability.

KCUnited 07-21-2014 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10758501)
Sporting Ownership can't afford the Royals, in all probability.

lolwut

BWillie 07-21-2014 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 10758509)
lolwut

How many of those guys are there? Took a bunch to own an MLS club that has a payroll of 3 million. The Royals have a 90 million dollar payroll and more operating expenses.

doomy3 07-21-2014 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10758516)
How many of those guys are there? Took a bunch to own an MLS club that has a payroll of 3 million. The Royals have a 90 million dollar payroll and more operating expenses.

Dude, the owners of SKC are incredibly rich. Much more so than the Glasses.

ChiefsCountry 07-21-2014 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10758501)
Sporting Ownership can't afford the Royals, in all probability.

http://www.forbes.com/profile/neal-patterson/

ChiefsCountry 07-21-2014 04:53 PM

Ideal trade would be a three way deal where we can ship Shields out and still get some return for a post season push. Example:

Royals
Carlos Quentin
Ian Kennedy

Padres
Get Prospects from both

Mystery Team
James Shields

Cover your major need, still rebuild for the year, and can still win now.

C3HIEF3S 07-21-2014 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10758501)
Sporting Ownership can't afford the Royals, in all probability.

Read back 1-2 pages to Duncan's post, he explains pretty well.

BWillie 07-21-2014 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 10758521)
Dude, the owners of SKC are incredibly rich. Much more so than the Glasses.

Fair enough. Still an obstacle. I want a car, so I buy one for $10,000. I really like Lamborghini's too, but I'm not going to buy one.

DeezNutz 07-21-2014 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10758549)
Fair enough. Still an obstacle. I want a car, so I buy one for $10,000. I really like Lamborghini's too, but I'm not going to buy one.

OK, badgirl.

Archie F. Swin 07-21-2014 05:05 PM

recent twitter chatter that KC has a scout at the Phillies game.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a> reps are reportedly scouting the Phillies game. Marlon Byrd and Antonio Bastardo are probably the targets.</p>&mdash; David Lesky (@DBLesky) <a href="https://twitter.com/DBLesky/statuses/491354702991200256">July 21, 2014</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Deberg_1990 07-21-2014 05:07 PM

I just cant see KC being sellers if Dayton is in desperation/save my job mode.

DeezNutz 07-21-2014 05:09 PM

Earlier link suggested Dominic Brown, too.

Unsmooth-Moment 07-21-2014 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10758554)
I just cant see KC being sellers if Dayton is in desperation/save my job mode.

That's what really sucks about the whole thing. The best thing for the Royals to do would be to trade Shields unless we go on a tear. Shields isn't going to resign here next year and if we can get anything more than a comp pick for him we need to pull trigger. Especially if we dig a bigger hole by the deadline.

Archie F. Swin 07-21-2014 05:14 PM

after we sign a big bat, can we get a new repository?

lautrec 07-21-2014 05:14 PM

I firmly believe not only is GMDM in desperation mode, but that's he's so deep into it he will do ANY possible thing he can think of to try to get this team to finish around .500 (Because if you can finish around or a little above .500, isn't that a like winning the World Series in a small way?). And for all of DMs "GREAT" trades, the Royals roster should look something like this: Ibanez, Scott Downs, Frasor, and other team's castoffs. Perhaps he will re-sign Frenchy and Yuni and talk Getz out of retirement. And with the great Ned "Frank" Yost leading the charge, the Royals could finish around .400 or .500 again! Weeeee!

C3HIEF3S 07-21-2014 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by lautrec (Post 10758563)
I firmly believe not only is GMDM in desperation mode, but that's he's so deep into it he will do ANY possible thing he can think of to try to get this team to finish around .500 (Because if you can finish around or a little above .500, isn't that a like winning the World Series in a small way?). And for all of DMs "GREAT" trades, the Royals roster should look something like this: Ibanez, Scott Downs, Frasor, and other team's castoffs. Perhaps he will re-sign Frenchy and Yuni and talk Getz out of retirement. And with the great Ned "Frank" Yost leading the charge, the Royals could finish around .400 or .500 again! Weeeee!

Ned's real name is Edgar.

Edgar Frederick Yost III. Much tradition. Much heritage. Much respect.

SAUTO 07-21-2014 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10758549)
Fair enough. Still an obstacle. I want a car, so I buy one for $10,000. I really like Lamborghini's too, but I'm not going to buy one.

If you are in the market for a 10000 dollar vat you aren't in the market for a Ferrari. SKC. Can afford a Ferrari. No matter what else they bought
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SAUTO 07-21-2014 06:06 PM

Car not vat
Posted via Mobile Device

duncan_idaho 07-21-2014 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10758549)
Fair enough. Still an obstacle. I want a car, so I buy one for $10,000. I really like Lamborghini's too, but I'm not going to buy one.

It's not an obstacle. The SKC group would be one of the wealthiest ownership groups in baseball, and they have the bonus of having already proven their ability to succeed by hiring quality people and building a first-rate organization. It's not like they're succeeding in MLS by being the Yankees of MLS.

Illig and Patterson each have a net worth around $3 billion and are major players in Cerner, a compnay that is going to going to continue to make them richer and richer.

OnGoal is not a group that banded together because it needed to financially. It's a group that banded together because it WANTED to (those guys are all pals).

If they owned both the Royals and SKC, they'd do all sorts of cross-promotion things (Shared ticket packages, etc).

Anyong Bluth 07-21-2014 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10758705)
It's not an obstacle. The SKC group would be one of the wealthiest ownership groups in baseball, and they have the bonus of having already proven their ability to succeed by hiring quality people and building a first-rate organization. It's not like they're succeeding in MLS by being the Yankees of MLS.

Illig and Patterson each have a net worth around $3 billion and are major players in Cerner, a compnay that is going to going to continue to make them richer and richer.

OnGoal is not a group that banded together because it needed to financially. It's a group that banded together because it WANTED to (those guys are all pals).

If they owned both the Royals and SKC, they'd do all sorts of cross-promotion things (Shared ticket packages, etc).

Only obstacle is snuffing out the Glass lineage to pry the team from their grip to make way for the sale of the club.

If we have people doing tactical missions to sneak into rumored haunted graveyards in the cloak of night, I think their respective talents in stealth infiltration would be better suited in a little drop n pop mission on the House of Glass.
Seems to be a much worthier cause, and probably some sort of special board privileges could be bestowed upon these freedom fighters who unshackle us from our tyrant franchise overlords!

duncan_idaho 07-21-2014 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth (Post 10758778)
Only obstacle is snuffing out the Glass lineage to pry the team from their grip to make way for the sale of the club.

If we have people doing tactical missions to sneak into rumored haunted graveyards in the cloak of night, I think their respective talents in stealth infiltration would be better suited in a little drop n pop mission on the House of Glass.
Seems to be a much worthier cause, and probably some sort of special board privileges could be bestowed upon these freedom fighters who unshackle us from our tyrant franchise overlords!

I have heard that the rumor around the K is that Dan Glass is not going to be handed the keys when Daddy retires, that the team will be sold.

Because...

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/S2XvxDaIwCw/maxresdefault.jpg

Anyong Bluth 07-21-2014 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10758849)
I have heard that the rumor around the K is that Dan Glass is not going to be handed the keys when Daddy retires, that the team will be sold.

Because...

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/S2XvxDaIwCw/maxresdefault.jpg

One can only hope and pray.

teedubya 07-21-2014 07:38 PM

If the people from SportingKC bought the Royals... I'd be SportingWOOD.

Anyong Bluth 07-21-2014 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 10758935)
If the people from SportingKC bought the Royals... I'd be SportingWOOD.

Royals' luck, MLB would find some bogus excuse not to approve the sale.

GloryDayz 07-21-2014 07:55 PM

1-20 with RISP.... LOFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lewdog 07-21-2014 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 10758991)
1-20 with RISP.... LOFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's only a small sample size of how shitty we've been.

GloryDayz 07-21-2014 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10759033)
That's only a small sample size of how shitty we've been.

Yup, but like so many stats, it's a trump card of fail for this team.

gblowfish 07-21-2014 08:39 PM

If the Sporting People bought the Royals, they should flush the whole Royals Brand, and name the team the Kansas City Monarchs, which is what they should have been named in the first place.

lewdog 07-21-2014 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 10759151)
If the Sporting People bought the Royals, they should flush the whole Royals Brand, and name the team the Kansas City Monarchs, which is what they should have been named in the first place.

With pink Monarch butterfly logos everywhere!

C3HIEF3S 07-21-2014 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10759161)
With pink Monarch butterfly logos everywhere!

So fitting

tk13 07-21-2014 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 10759151)
If the Sporting People bought the Royals, they should flush the whole Royals Brand, and name the team the Kansas City Monarchs, which is what they should have been named in the first place.

Or the Kansas City A's!

C3HIEF3S 07-21-2014 08:47 PM

First shot of the 2015 Kansas City Monarch's Eric Hosmer
http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/sti...hwarmers06.jpg

gblowfish 07-21-2014 08:59 PM

You bastages ready to send Marty some money yet???

Bowser 07-21-2014 09:00 PM

I'll ***OFFICIALLY*** call it - this team is done. Cooked. Sell Shields, sell Davis, sell all of them.

(yes, I know we are within five of the wildcard. Doesn't matter. We're out of the picture and of no real threat to any team in the AL still in contention)

OH LOOKEE KNEEJERK REACTION FROM DUMBASS FAN /derpderpityderp

tmw4h5 07-21-2014 09:04 PM

The best thing for this team is to go on a losing streak until the deadline and then deal Holland and Shields. Davis at $7m as a closer is good by me.

Hootie 07-21-2014 09:04 PM

no. Trade Holland. Keep Davis.

Why Not? 07-21-2014 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10759222)
I'll ***OFFICIALLY*** call it - this team is done. Cooked. Sell Shields, sell Davis, sell all of them.

(yes, I know we are within five of the wildcard. Doesn't matter. We're out of the picture and of no real threat to any team in the AL still in contention)

OH LOOKEE KNEEJERK REACTION FROM DUMBASS FAN /derpderpityderp

Oh yeah. Stick a fork in this dumpster fire. Even if the Royals go 40-24 the rest of the way(yeah right), that may not be enough.

Reerun_KC 07-21-2014 09:07 PM

Hope is fading fast. Nothing rips hope from the heart of its fanbase like the chiefs or royals.

Chiefspants 07-21-2014 09:21 PM

I'm all for going all in behind Marty. Let's do what we can to put a fire under Glass.

DeezNutz 07-21-2014 09:22 PM

We cannot trade Soria! Imagine how shitty this team would be without him! /past

Never forget. Shitty teams don't need great closers. Trade Holland, especially since we have a great insurance policy.

Only way we win "The Trade" is to maximize the return on Holland right now, with Shields packaged as the kicker.

TLO 07-21-2014 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 10759275)
I'm all for going all in behind Marty. Let's do what we can to put a fire under Glass.

Glass won't give a shit.

C3HIEF3S 07-21-2014 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10759291)
Glass won't give a shit.

This

duncan_idaho 07-21-2014 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 10759279)
We cannot trade Soria! Imagine how shitty this team would be without him! /past

Never forget. Shitty teams don't need great closers. Trade Holland, especially since we have a great insurance policy.

Only way we win "The Trade" is to maximize the return on Holland right now, with Shields packaged as the kicker.

I'd have no problem with packaging either one of the great bullpen pieces for the right return. Key is getting back a piece that is more valuable to even a bad team than what you surrender.

It's also much easier to do when those two great bullpen pieces are both about to be so expensive, you can't really justify keeping both of them (especially if you're only going to use your primary setup man in the 8th inning of games that you lead, which is an incredibly stupid and short-sighted way to use a great floating bullpen piece, but short-sighted and stupid are great ways to describe Ned's managerial style).

Hootie 07-21-2014 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10759317)
I'd have no problem with packaging either one of the great bullpen pieces for the right return. Key is getting back a piece that is more valuable to even a bad team than what you surrender.

It's also much easier to do when those two great bullpen pieces are both about to be so expensive, you can't really justify keeping both of them (especially if you're only going to use your primary setup man in the 8th inning of games that you lead, which is an incredibly stupid and short-sighted way to use a great floating bullpen piece, but short-sighted and stupid are great ways to describe Ned's managerial style).

I think the thing that frustrates me the most about Ned, and I'm not a picky guy when it comes to the manager...is the way he uses Wade Davis...a strikeout pitcher who hasn't given up one god damn extra base hit this year.

KChiefs1 07-21-2014 10:16 PM

Royals should have a fire sale this week.

duncan_idaho 07-21-2014 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 10759343)
Royals should have a fire sale this week.

They won't.

Moore can't honestly justify selling off any pieces from the team that he built without indicting himself for what he's done (or not done).

This roster is made up exactly of what Dayton Moore has been selling for 8 years as the type of roster he needs to win and win big. A young, homegrown core. A few key (and expensive) veterans acquired to fill gaps and put the team over the top.

If he goes into fire sale mode, he admits that The Process has failed. And it has failed on the back of the most critical aspect of The Process: Home-grown talent.

Yordano Ventura and Danny Duffy are the first pitchers to live up to their hype and be productive MLB starters. So that's good.

But on the position side of the diamond? The two guys that were CRITICAL to this thing working are not getting it done. The Royals NEEDED one of Hosmer/Moustakas/Myers to be a superstar level bat you build the lineup around. They needed one of those guys to be a solid MLB player. And they should have expected one to bust.

Instead, they've got a mediocre hitter in Hosmer (who is incredibly streaky and untrustworthy as a lineup linchpin, not to mention terrible in tight spots) and a bust in Moustakas.

If Moore starts selling pieces from this team - after weaseling out a team-record payroll from Glass - I don't know how Glass could honestly allow Moore to keep his job. And I suspect Dayton knows that.

Sure-Oz 07-21-2014 10:24 PM

Here's hoping the Royals continue to lose

Deberg_1990 07-21-2014 10:33 PM

Goodbye Dayton

Thanks for nothing

tk13 07-21-2014 10:35 PM

No doubt DM is completely stuck. Which is why I wouldn't be surprised if he is burning up the phone lines trying to find some kind of offense. I think this team would have to continue spiraling downward over the next 5-7 days to consider selling. If he sells he's done... and if he sells at 2 games under .500, it looks even worse.

BigCatDaddy 07-21-2014 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10759291)
Glass won't give a shit.

Sure he will.

The Royals were scared shitless after the SOC movement ousted Pioli. The fans were feeling empowered and were going to set their sites on the Royals next. So to prevent that from happening the team jacked up the payroll and traded 2 of their best prospects for Shields/Davis, traded for Santana and also re-signed Gutherie.

tk13 07-21-2014 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10759357)
Sure he will.

The Royals were scared shitless after the SOC movement ousted Pioli. The fans were feeling empowered and were going to set their sites on the Royals next. So to prevent that from happening the team jacked up the payroll and traded 2 of their best prospects for Shields/Davis, traded for Santana and also re-signed Gutherie.

I don't know about that. I feel like the general consensus was anti-Shields trade. Fans love Shields, I think he's been a good influence on the other pitchers... but a lot of people didn't want to give up Wil Myers.

BigCatDaddy 07-21-2014 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 10759363)
I don't know about that. I feel like the general consensus was anti-Shields trade. Fans love Shields, I think he's been a good influence on the other pitchers... but a lot of people didn't want to give up Wil Myers.

Right, but it was all about pacifying the fan base at that moment. Payroll went up 21 millions between 2012 and 13. Banner weren't going to be flown in the off season but they had a solid April which is what they needed to cool things down a bit.

I think I remember an article on this topic where someone inside the Royals organization acknowledged they were aware and worried about what might happen if they flopped right off the bat during the 13 season.

Not sure if it was Glass that was worried, but I know that DM and the others were.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-21-2014 10:49 PM

Moore's predicament is a shining example of why GMs cannot be trusted to perform in the best interests of the organization, but in the best interests of themselves.

The best thing for the Royals is to strip your tradeable assets like Holland and Shields and get a solid return, but he won't do that because it exposes him.

Why Not? 07-21-2014 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 10759348)
Here's hoping the Royals continue to lose

Not this yet ...but pretty damn close.

Prison Bitch 07-21-2014 10:55 PM

The best thing for the Royals would be to petition the NL for admittance o that shit league so we can win. 8-4 vs them this year, and Milwaukee-Pitt-Cinci-STL are contending with blah teams. As for what they should do personnel wise, who cares.

tk13 07-21-2014 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10759370)
Right, but it was all about pacifying the fan base at that moment. Payroll went up 21 millions between 2012 and 13. Banner weren't going to be flown and things heating up until the season actually started and they had a solid April which is what they needed to cool things down a bit.

I think I remember an article on this topic where someone inside the Royals organization acknowledged they were aware and worried about what might happen if they flopped right off the bat during the 13 season.

Yeah... but the reason it went down in the first place was because they brought up all the young guys, Hosmer, Moose, Cain, Escobar, etc. Rookies don't make any money. It was up around the 75-80 million range when they had Meche and Guillen.

I don't know if they've ever been intentionally cheap under Dayton. That's probably been the biggest achievement of his regime. People put so much stock in that payroll number yet the Royals are constantly outdone by several teams every year that spend less. Not that I wouldn't love for the Royals to spend more, but Dayton's spent all this money, plus MLB record amounts in the draft and look where we are now. You should be able to win with a 90+ million dollar payroll.

duncan_idaho 07-21-2014 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 10759385)
Yeah... but the reason it went down in the first place was because they brought up all the young guys, Hosmer, Moose, Cain, Escobar, etc. Rookies don't make any money. It was up around the 75-80 million range when they had Meche and Guillen.

I don't know if they've ever been intentionally cheap under Dayton. That's probably been the biggest achievement of his regime. People put so much stock in that payroll number yet the Royals are constantly outdone by several teams every year that spend less. Not that I wouldn't love for the Royals to spend more, but Dayton's spent all this money, plus MLB record amounts in the draft and look where we are now. You should be able to win with a 90+ million dollar payroll.

You should. The key thing is not do moronic shit like keeping 3 relievers who make a combined $15 million, or nearly 1/5 of your payroll.

Hootie 07-22-2014 12:29 AM

Look...I like Yordano. He's awesome. But there is no ****ing way in god's name with his throwing motion that he doesn't tear that UCL within the next year. No ****ing way.


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