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duncan_idaho 02-17-2014 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 10438194)
I was hoping to get that draft pick from Baltimore for Santana.

We don't get the pick of the team that signs the player.

They sacrifice their first-round pick (Unless it is protected). Everyone else slides up a spot. The team that lost the player gets a comp pick at the end of the first round of the draft.

So Baltimore signing a guy with a QO is great for KC... as it moves them up from No. 18 to No. 17 in the draft order.

Now, just need someone to sign Santana... and get a pick in that comp round.

If Santana ends up signing 4/48 or 4/50, I understand the reticence from the KC front office. It's if he lands somewhere on a 3 - or especially 2 - year deal, that's when it really stings.

BlackHelicopters 02-17-2014 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10438211)
We don't get the pick of the team that signs the player.

They sacrifice their first-round pick (Unless it is protected). Everyone else slides up a spot. The team that lost the player gets a comp pick at the end of the first round of the draft.

So Baltimore signing a guy with a QO is great for KC... as it moves them up from No. 18 to No. 17 in the draft order.

Now, just need someone to sign Santana... and get a pick in that comp round.

If Santana ends up signing 4/48 or 4/50, I understand the reticence from the KC front office. It's if he lands somewhere on a 3 - or especially 2 - year deal, that's when it really stings.


Preparing for the sting.

WhawhaWhat 02-17-2014 07:24 PM

Ubaldo Jimenez to the O's on a 4-year deal. One less option for Erv.

Brianfo 02-17-2014 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 10438207)
JFC, enough already with your obsession with Mike Sweeney. The way you constantly go on and on about him, I'm starting to think he must have ass raped your wife.

No, he just ass raped the Royals.

KChiefs1 02-17-2014 08:33 PM

Riyals are projected to have the best defense in MLB in 2014.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/...&vkey=news_mlb

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1. ROYALS
The turnaround of the Royals' pitching staff in general, and Ervin Santana in particular, was a great story last season, but it wouldn't have been possible without the backing of one of the best defenses in the game.

The Royals led the Majors in defensive runs saved, and the reason why is pretty simple, really: They don't have a defensive weakness at any position. That's why they're No. 1 here. Shortstop Alcides Escobar and catcher Salvador Perez are among the best at their premier positions, and Alex Gordon is unmatched in left field. Omar Infante was a nice pickup for second base. The Royals just need this group to hit as well as it fields and they'll be ready to take that next step into October.

KChiefs1 02-17-2014 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10438328)
Ubaldo Jimenez to the O's on a 4-year deal. One less option for Erv.

4/$48 million

Santana more or less?

Simplicity 02-17-2014 09:05 PM

I'm sorry if Q but ESPN has a headline thing on the MLB tab of their website... it's title...
"Royals: Playoffs?"

Basically the read is talking about how we upgraded our offense this season which is a key point for our success this season. 31% odds of making it to playoffs with 23% playing in a divisional series.

Wilson8 02-17-2014 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10438211)
We don't get the pick of the team that signs the player.

They sacrifice their first-round pick (Unless it is protected). Everyone else slides up a spot. The team that lost the player gets a comp pick at the end of the first round of the draft.

Thanks for the clarification.

How does this work for a team like the Yankees that signs multiple "Qualifying Offer" free agents? They signed Brian McCann (12/02/2013), Jacoby Ellsbury (12/03/2013), and Carlos Beltran (12/19/2013).

They lost Robinson Cano (12/09/2013) to Seattle and Curtis Granderson (12/09/2013) to the Mets.

I assume NYY lost their 1st round pick when they signed McCann. Atlanta would then get a comp pick after the 1st round. NYY sign Ellsbury and give up a 2nd round pick? Does Boston get a comp pick after the 1st round? Seattle* signs Robinson Cano, so now instead of NYY giving up a 2nd round pick they give up their Cano comp pick, which is higher. Mets* then sign Curtis Granderson, so Yankees get a comp pick. Then Yankees sign Carlos Beltran so they give up their comp pick.

So as long as the Yankees sign no more QOFAs they are down their 1st round draft pick.

If the Yankees sign Ervin Santana, do the Royals get an after 1st round comp pick and the Yankees give up a 2nd round pick?

Also didn't these new rules just start in 2013?

* Since Mets and Seattle were in the bottom 10, they only give up 2nd round pick.

duncan_idaho 02-17-2014 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 10438489)
Thanks for the clarification.

How does this work for a team like the Yankees that signs multiple "Qualifying Offer" free agents? They signed Brian McCann (12/02/2013), Jacoby Ellsbury (12/03/2013), and Carlos Beltran (12/19/2013).

They lost Robinson Cano (12/09/2013) to Seattle and Curtis Granderson (12/09/2013) to the Mets.

I assume NYY lost their 1st round pick when they signed McCann. Atlanta would then get a comp pick after the 1st round. NYY sign Ellsbury and give up a 2nd round pick? Does Boston get a comp pick after the 1st round? Seattle* signs Robinson Cano, so now instead of NYY giving up a 2nd round pick they give up their Cano comp pick, which is higher. Mets* then sign Curtis Granderson, so Yankees get a comp pick. Then Yankees sign Carlos Beltran so they give up their comp pick.

So as long as the Yankees sign no more QOFAs they are down their 1st round draft pick.

If the Yankees sign Ervin Santana, do the Royals get an after 1st round comp pick and the Yankees give up a 2nd round pick?

Also didn't these new rules just start in 2013?

* Since Mets and Seattle were in the bottom 10, they only give up 2nd round pick.

The Yankees gained comp picks for Cano and Granderson and lost picks for signing Ellsbury, McCann and Beltran.

So they lose their first and both of the comp picks they got for their own FA. If they sign another FA, they will lose their second round pick.

mr. tegu 02-17-2014 09:51 PM

2014 Royals Repository
 
Opening weekend is going to be awesome. The Royals start their march to the playoffs, Game of Thrones starts back up, and it is Final Four weekend. Awesome.

KChiefs1 02-17-2014 09:52 PM

When do single game tickets go on sale?

Coach 02-17-2014 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 10438555)
When do single game tickets go on sale?

March, I believe, but I'm not 100% sure on that.

Edited: Checked Royals.com, and it says "Single Game Tickets will be on sale Saturday, March 1 at 10:00 a.m. (CT)."

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/tic...me.jsp?c_id=kc

mr. tegu 02-17-2014 09:59 PM

March 1st.

Wilson8 02-17-2014 10:04 PM

Maybe a clue in why Florida Marlins claimed and then released Jimmy Paredes. After they claimed him, he played winter ball in the Dominican League and batted .176 in 20 games and 68 at bats.

Baltimore only kept him for 2 days. Not sure why they bothered.

Maybe give him a chance in Omaha and see if he can do anything.

KChiefs1 02-17-2014 10:04 PM

Thanks!


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