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FloridaMan88 02-18-2025 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17972542)
I’m sorry but if you think Jawaan Taylor was anywhere close to as bad as Thuney in that game I have to seriously question what you were watching.

Jawaan may have had a bad game but Thuney had a historically awful performance

Taylor gave up the same # of pressures as Thuney did in the first half… four.

Thuney was “historically bad”, but Taylor gets a pass?

Sassy Squatch 02-18-2025 01:40 PM

From the little I've stomached I didn't see Jawaan performing anywhere nearly as bad as Thuney. Thuney wasn't offering any resistance whatsoever. Taylor was getting beaten but he at least put up a fight before surrendering the pressures.

RunKC 02-18-2025 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17972568)
From the little I've stomached I didn't see Jawaan performing anywhere nearly as bad as Thuney. Thuney wasn't offering any resistance whatsoever. Taylor was getting beaten but he at least put up a fight before surrendering the pressures.

Yeah Mahomes getting killed from the right side was mostly Andy Reid’s fault having a TE and RB block the DE.

Are any of these definitely Jawaan getting his ass kicked?

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This play alone makes the argument laughable. Pretty clear Thuney was significantly worse than Jawaan

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VAChief 02-18-2025 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17972537)
So do what should've been done 2 years ago? Better late than never I guess.

Why put Morris at RT instead of Kingsley? Morris is an emergency swing tackle at best. Morris at RG and Kingsley at RT would be better, but hopefully they have better options than moving Taylor to LT.

FloridaMan88 02-18-2025 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17972568)
From the little I've stomached I didn't see Jawaan performing anywhere nearly as bad as Thuney. Thuney wasn't offering any resistance whatsoever. Taylor was getting beaten but he at least put up a fight before surrendering the pressures.

“Putting up a fight”?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Amazing rep <a href="https://twitter.com/jawaan_taylor74?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@jawaan_taylor74</a> trash ass mf <a href="https://t.co/hXa63XAYpJ">pic.twitter.com/hXa63XAYpJ</a></p>&mdash; Julio (@RasheeTouchdown) <a href="https://twitter.com/RasheeTouchdown/status/1889375704116240617?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wisconsin_Chief 02-18-2025 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17972553)
Jawaan is some people's whipping boy, it's tired.

It's really strange, our fans bitch about the media giving us a bad rap, and then they go buy right into it with the whole Taylor situation.

If it wasn't for Collinsworth opening his giant gullet, nobody would really even have a complaint about him. He's pretty much exactly what most people knew he was. I've said it before, nobody forced anyone to give him $80 million dollars. That was our own choice, and it's kind of what happens when you have to fill this spot in free agency.

Sassy Squatch 02-18-2025 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17972611)
“Putting up a fight”?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Amazing rep <a href="https://twitter.com/jawaan_taylor74?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@jawaan_taylor74</a> trash ass mf <a href="https://t.co/hXa63XAYpJ">pic.twitter.com/hXa63XAYpJ</a></p>&mdash; Julio (@RasheeTouchdown) <a href="https://twitter.com/RasheeTouchdown/status/1889375704116240617?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 11, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Congrats on finding a rep where he looked as bad as Thuney, I guess.

Shields68 02-18-2025 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17972631)
Congrats on finding a rep where he looked as bad as Thuney, I guess.

Yep, though in fairness it appears that Taylor was not aware Mahomes was that deep on his drop and seemed more prepared for a 5-7 yard drop.

MahomesMagic 02-18-2025 02:31 PM

Spend the money Veach!


The salary cap is going to explode again, and it’s all because of this change in how Nielsen measures ratings.

Starting this year, they are leaning into using data directly from Smart TV manufacturers to measure viewing habits in addition to the traditional at-home panel method.

This means NFL ratings in particular from Sunday Ticket on YouTube are going to be more accurately measured…and that number is going to be way bigger than you think because of just how many Gen-Z and Millennials consume football on streaming services.

More accurate ratings means the league’s next broadcast rights negotiation in 2028/2029 is going to be WAY more expensive…which ultimately means massive jumps in the salary cap.

If I’m a GM, that means next year…or maybe even this year…I can sign some truly outrageously back-loaded deals with a ton of funny money that all slams home in 2030 and not even care about the math.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The salary cap is going to explode again, and it’s all because of this change in how Nielsen measures ratings.<br><br>Starting this year, they are leaning into using data directly from Smart TV manufacturers to measure viewing habits in addition to the traditional at-home panel method.…</p>&mdash; Brett Kollmann (@BrettKollmann) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrettKollmann/status/1891911620588339530?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 18, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Shields68 02-18-2025 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17972617)
It's really strange, our fans bitch about the media giving us a bad rap, and then they go buy right into it with the whole Taylor situation.

If it wasn't for Collinsworth opening his giant gullet, nobody would really even have a complaint about him. He's pretty much exactly what most people knew he was. I've said it before, nobody forced anyone to give him $80 million dollars. That was our own choice, and it's kind of what happens when you have to fill this spot in free agency.

I would agree with the exception that prior to Collingsworth Taylor anticiated the count was never called and it gave him a slight edge. Since then he is really the only one the refs have drawn a hard line on an automatic false start if he is at all close to moving at the snap. It has taken away an edge he had prior to us signing him.

Mecca 02-18-2025 03:12 PM

Taylor is the same thing he was the day he was signed, he's an athletic OT that by most metrics is an above average player. He gets penalties and he always has..

If you somehow think the Chiefs need to be rocking some OT set that involves elite players at both spots you have entirely unrealistic expectations.

duncan_idaho 02-18-2025 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 17972662)
Yep, though in fairness it appears that Taylor was not aware Mahomes was that deep on his drop and seemed more prepared for a 5-7 yard drop.

Or he was expecting either of the attached players who scream out into the patterns to handle that guy. Or both.

Coogs 02-18-2025 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17972444)
I don't buy that the Jags are going to trade Walker Little, they are far more likely to just take whoever the BPA is.

I wasn't suggesting that they are looking to trade him. This thread is about looking for options. I was just floating a idea.

T-post Tom 02-18-2025 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17972725)
Taylor is the same thing he was the day he was signed, he's an athletic OT that by most metrics is an above average player. He gets penalties and he always has..

If you somehow think the Chiefs need to be rocking some OT set that involves elite players at both spots you have entirely unrealistic expectations.

Sadly, I couldn't survive a day w/o unrealistic expectations. :)

GordonGekko 02-18-2025 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17972725)
Taylor is the same thing he was the day he was signed, he's an athletic OT that by most metrics is an above average player. He gets penalties and he always has..

If you somehow think the Chiefs need to be rocking some OT set that involves elite players at both spots you have entirely unrealistic expectations.

The danger at LT right now far exceeds RT and Veach 100% needs to address the left side first. I would like to see competition for that RT position though. Taylor takes huge amounts of Chiefs money regardless but we need competition at that RT position in order to get the best possible starter next year. Would like to see Kingsley get a crack or a much more conditioned/healthy Humphries. I think RT would be a great place for Kingsley to get confidence and grow.


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