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BossChief 10-08-2023 10:58 PM

At one point, Skyy is going to “tweak a hamstring” or something and miss a couple weeks that opens the door for Ross, right? They gotta get Ross, Rice and Watson more reps.

It’s probably gonna happen similarly to how Pacheco took the starters role last year.

BWillie 10-08-2023 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17156783)
Watsons been showing up big time.

He's showing up because we don't have anyone else.

The other question is what in the hell is up with MVS? Hes having a disaster of a year so far. I expect more from him but to be fair to MVS he plays best off of another WR #1 where he can run vertical and we just dont have that.

Mahomes is a god damned wizard.

ThyKingdomCome15 10-09-2023 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17156815)
At one point, Skyy is going to “tweak a hamstring” or something and miss a couple weeks that opens the door for Ross, right? They gotta get Ross, Rice and Watson more reps.

It’s probably gonna happen similarly to how Pacheco took the starters role last year.

Andy plans it this way. Vets early, best players late.

Hammock Parties 10-09-2023 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17156843)
He's showing up because we don't have anyone else.

The other question is what in the hell is up with MVS? Hes having a disaster of a year so far. I expect more from him but to be fair to MVS he plays best off of another WR #1 where he can run vertical and we just dont have that.

Mahomes is a god damned wizard.

I keep saying it.

Watson does what MVS does and does it better.

And Mahomes knows it.

Pinchshot 10-09-2023 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 17156852)
Andy plans it this way. Vets early, best players late.

This

CupidStunt 10-09-2023 04:47 AM

I really like Rice in ways I never liked Skyy, Toney, Hardman or much anyone else. I really hope Mahomes just starts peppering him with targets one game and everyone realises he could be THAT guy.

crispystl 10-09-2023 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 17156890)
I really like Rice in ways I never liked Skyy, Toney, Hardman or much anyone else. I really hope Mahomes just starts peppering him with targets one game and everyone realises he could be THAT guy.

I can't wait until he puts a little more weight on and gets through an entire year in the NFL weight room. Dude is going to have a couple plays where he breaks 4-5 tackles and then drags 2-3 more bodies along with him for long TDs.

DJ's left nut 10-09-2023 09:55 AM

Just kicking a dead horse here but this is a critical Rice/Moore distinction:

https://i.imgur.com/cWOJ2eD.gif

Look at this route - he doesn't **** around foot firing to try to get a clean release. He doesn't do anything cute to create separation. He goes DIRECTLY at his man knowing how fast he needs to get into the route. DB tries to get physical and Rice just bodies through him; simply out-physicals him to get that little bit of inside leverage.

More critically he gets it EXACTLY where he needs to get it. Not a yard early, not a yard late. Not too deep and not too shallow. He stays on his route, gets a foot of separation right when it's expected and creates a lane for Mahomes to fire a dart into.

THAT'S what Moore doesn't do. That's why I say those 'yards of separation' stat don't mean dick. Because a foot of separation on this play meant everything and it was truly all that was needed.

It wasn't THAT he got separation, it was when and where he got it that sets him apart from Moore.

He simply knows what he needs to do out there to be a part of the progression. All too often I'm not seeing that from Moore. I suspect he'd have seen the DB lining up over top of him and tried to foot fire then juke outside before cutting inside and by then the safeties will have crashed down into that hole and Mahomes would've moved onto the next guy.

Wanna know why Rice is getting targets and Moore isn't? That play is your answer.

ToxSocks 10-09-2023 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17156857)
I keep saying it.

Watson does what MVS does and does it better.

And Mahomes knows it.

:rolleyes:

Bl00dyBizkitz 10-09-2023 10:50 AM

Seems like all the talk about Rice being "NFL ready" as a rookie was pretty accurate. Besides some dropsies, this guy looks the part.

I'd just give him more snaps.

Hammock Parties 10-09-2023 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 17157289)
:rolleyes:

It's true. He's a deep threat with more physicality and better hands.

MVS might be trade bait at the deadline. He doesn't do anything Watson can't do. Watson has gobbled up his targets.

IowaHawkeyeChief 10-09-2023 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17157395)
It's true. He's a deep threat with more physicality and better hands.

MVS might be trade bait at the deadline. He doesn't do anything Watson can't do. Watson has gobbled up his targets.

We aren't trading MVS...

ToxSocks 10-09-2023 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17157395)
It's true. He's a deep threat with more physicality and better hands.

MVS might be trade bait at the deadline. He doesn't do anything Watson can't do. Watson has gobbled up his targets.

LOL. Go watch the All-22. Seriously.

MVS is dragging multiple defenders everywhere he goes so people like Watson can find 1v1 matchups that Mahomes can expose. Watson is a role player even more so than MVS is.

It's like saying Gray is more valuable than Kelce because Gray had a couple of nice grabs.

Hammock Parties 10-09-2023 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 17157405)
LOL. Go watch the All-22. Seriously.

MVS is dragging multiple defenders everywhere he goes so people like Watson can find 1v1 matchups that Mahomes can expose. Watson is a role player even more so than MVS is.

It's like saying Gray is more valuable than Kelce because Gray had a couple of nice grabs.

Bad comp, because Watson leads all the receivers in yardage.

It's clear Watson is Mahomes preferred downfield target now.

I still like MVS but I think his days are numbered.

DJ's left nut 10-09-2023 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 17157405)
LOL. Go watch the All-22. Seriously.

MVS is dragging multiple defenders everywhere he goes so people like Watson can find 1v1 matchups that Mahomes can expose. Watson is a role player even more so than MVS is.

It's like saying Gray is more valuable than Kelce because Gray had a couple of nice grabs.

Or like saying Frank Clark was more critical in the post-season than Chris Jones because he got more sacks.

It's just real bad analysis.


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