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Couch-Potato 10-12-2024 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17742081)
Hold on…is that reporting we’ve made an offer, or just speculation?
Speculation.

Balto 10-12-2024 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rydogg58 (Post 17742111)
Who would you put over him in the top 5? Obviously Rice and Moss. But after that, I'd say there's a case for him to be in the top 5. I'd definitely pick him over Owens. Maybe even Fitzgerald. I just think past the first 2, it's all just personal preference, and I wouldn't disagree that there's a case for him to at least be talked about as one of the greatest.
I’d actually put a lot of receivers over him simple because of his lack of size and questionable hands at times.

With that being said….if I made an all-time team I’d actually put him as my 3rd guy to complement Rice and Moss.

BWillie 10-12-2024 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17741206)
Reasonable speculation here:https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...mpact-round-1/

Adams = Jets
Hopkins = Chiefs
Cooper = Cowboys

All 3 go where they've prev been linked.

I'd be happy with anyone at this point, just curious to see what happens.
Any of those 3, fine by me.

New World Order 10-12-2024 09:38 PM
Would you trade the GBS for Davonte Adams?

ku_jhawk23 10-12-2024 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by rydogg58 (Post 17742111)
Who would you put over him in the top 5? Obviously Rice and Moss. But after that, I'd say there's a case for him to be in the top 5. I'd definitely pick him over Owens. Maybe even Fitzgerald. I just think past the first 2, it's all just personal preference, and I wouldn't disagree that there's a case for him to at least be talked about as one of the greatest.
Really?? He isn't anywhere near HOF status and may never get there. If you'd pick him over Owens and Fitzgerald, that's on you. How old are you? Do you realize there was football in the past? Otis Taylor is infinitely more qualified.

kccrow 10-12-2024 10:29 PM
Hill absolutely is on a HOF trajectory and if he plays 12 years at his current clip will be 3rd all-time in receiving yards.

rfaulk34 10-12-2024 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17742581)
Hill absolutely is on a HOF trajectory and if he plays 12 years at his current clip will be 3rd all-time in receiving yards.
If he got 1k more yards this year (unlikely) he'd have to average 1,525 yards over the next 3 years to be #3 in career yards.

He'll be 31 in about 5 months.

He would need 4,575 yards to pass TO.

Hines Ward, JT Smith, Steve Largent, James Lofton, Andre Johnson and Keenan McCardell all got between 4k and 5k yards from their year 31 to the end of their career, but every one had to play at least 5 years to do it.

The most yards a player has ever gotten from their 31 to 34 year was Roddy White with 3,489.

The most yards a player has ever gotten from their 31 to 33 year was Torry Holt with 2,707.

tredadda 10-13-2024 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17742635)
If he got 1k more yards this year (unlikely) he'd have to average 1,525 yards over the next 3 years to be #3 in career yards.

He'll be 31 in about 5 months.

He would need 4,575 yards to pass TO.

Hines Ward, JT Smith, Steve Largent, James Lofton, Andre Johnson and Keenan McCardell all got between 4k and 5k yards from their year 31 to the end of their career, but every one had to play at least 5 years to do it.

The most yards a player has ever gotten from their 31 to 34 year was Roddy White with 3,489.

The most yards a player has ever gotten from their 31 to 33 year was Torry Holt with 2,707.
Barring a full recovery from Tua and him staying healthy for another 3-4 years, I don’t see Tyreek getting 4,575 yards as a Dolphin. The difference in his stats between having Tua and not having him at the moment is pretty remarkable.

Mescalito345 10-13-2024 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17742086)
You could argue that Tyreek Hill is the best WR of his generation. I'd definitely put him in the top 10-15 best WR of all time. He'd be a first ballot hall of famer if he didn't have as much off the field stuff. He still might even get there.
He will definitely make it to the HOF, even if he does not catch any more passes. An all-time great WR.

Mescalito345 10-13-2024 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17742131)
Rice
Moss
Owens
Fitz
Johnson
Brown, Tim
Harrison
Carter
Bruce
(a couple more i'm not thinking of)

More recently
Julio Jones
Hopkins
Antonio Brown
Mike Evans (he's never on anyone's list but he's already at 12k yds and 99tds
No, Tyreek is much better than most of the guys on your list.

Rausch 10-13-2024 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17742530)
Any of those 3, fine by me.
I'd prefer Cooper.

He strikes me as a guy that might actually want to/care about winning...

FloridaMan88 10-13-2024 03:25 PM
Calvin Ridley not happy in Tennessee…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“I need some in the beginning of the f***ing game too. S**t is getting crazy for me.”<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Titans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Titans</a> WR Calvin Ridley frustrated that he didn’t get involved in the game plan early enough. <a href="https://t.co/n47lXKgVKy">pic.twitter.com/n47lXKgVKy</a></p>&mdash; AtoZ Sports Nashville (@AtoZSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/AtoZSports/status/1845563229382316257?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 13, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Megatron96 10-13-2024 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mescalito345 (Post 17742722)
No, Tyreek is much better than most of the guys on your list.


Yeah, not seeing it. Some, sure. "Most," nah. Tyreek is a great WR, and he should end up in the HOF. He might even crack the top-10 all-time. But he's not on the Mt. Rushmore of WRs. And he probably will never ascend that mountain.

Balto 10-13-2024 11:31 PM
Browns lost again…..Time for Cooper?!?!?

fadeaway 10-14-2024 02:38 AM
I’m all for sending that TEN 3rd to Browns for Cooper. But I’d also be tempted at throwing a 6th or maybe even a 7th to Tennnesee for Boyd.

Sure he won’t be WR1 or 2, but having him as your third or fourth target instead of Skyy Moore or Hardman is a hell of a jump


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