There is no reason Mizzou can't go between the lines and beat Texas. We just need to be a better football team. I can't wait for the fall though that is for sure.

Recruits don't care if Mizzou makes 12 or 15 dollars. Recruits didn't give a shit about any of this. They care that Missouri is still a part of a big time conference...which they are. You are just reaching for straws.

And for alllllll the bitching you still couldn't come up with a single alternative that was based in reality. That must be pretty humbling, I mean making it THAT obvious that all you do is bitch without actually knowing the situation. ROFL

I agree with this. Power running and a stout line, and we've particularly lacked the latter.

And my biggest gripe with Pinkel is his total unwillingness to go away from the spread in ANY situation, even if its the 1/2-yard line and goal to go.

Sometimes a cloud of dust isn't a bad thing on the football field.

Something KSU has this year, and is traditionally known for under Snyder. 4 out of 5 offensive linemen and D-Train returns.

That's because there's nothing to argue, you ****ing dildo. It's over - the damage is done. There are no alternatives. Just suck and more suck. We're just reeling in the aftermath now. If Texas had bailed, another major conference would probably have picked us up. You don't know how it would have played out anymore than I do. Or does taking pictures of clouds somehow qualify you as an expert in college football conferences? Give me a ****ing break.

The vast majority of us are pissed - clowns like you think it's great that they're still chained to Texas. It's not like I'm the only one who feels this way, but for some reason I'm the only one you aim your bipolar bullshit at. I'm sorry I offended you in a delicate spot, Zackipoo. If I send you some chocolates and a roll of film will that make it all better?

Oh, I don't think so. Your recruiting base is still Missouri and Texas, or at least the players that the Texas schools don't want. I don't think Missouri's football program is hurt by this in the least. It would have been better if they had gotten into the Big 10, but it's no worse off than it was before.

I have not only focused on you I think Laz is pretty much the same breed of clown that you are and said that outright. Don't worry though, that is just your victim mentality popping up again.

I am not acting like I knew everything about this situation which is why I am not assuming anything. See, you HOPE a major conference would have picked us up. With everything riding on that kind of decision you went with HOPE. Hilarity.

For someone talking about pride so much I find it funny that instead of just thinking we need to be a little better to beat Texas you want to run off to another conference with your tail between your legs because they are too tough. Pride, my ass.

And feel free to take all the photographer shots you want. I hope someday you can do what you love, set your own hours, and be your own boss. I really do.

High school kids don't care if one school's making $12 million a year or $15 million. They don't care if the president and chancellor had some awkward moments in press conferences. MU doesn't have to alter its recruiting areas, though with Nebraska joining the Big Ten, I'd suspect the Huskers will try to enhance its presence in St. Louis.

You don't think recruiters from other schools won't play this up? It's not like this happened quietly. And even if the kids don't know/care what's going on, their parents probably will.

Plus, it's not like we ended last season on a positive note. Honestly, I really don't think getting slaughtered by an underdog team in a shitty bowl we got shafted into is any better than not going to a bowl at all.

I guess I should apologize in advance, my negatively will probably make Zackipoo cry some more.

I can attest to this. Witness the Wefald/Weiser PC after Huggs left KSU.

I guess you want the Royals to play the Yankees every night, too, because they're the best! LMAO

As for the realities of the inequities of college football, if you don't understand the massive unfair advantages a program like Texas has over Missouri, then I really can't help you. I guess if I'm not dumb enough to race a Corvette with my Impala, that means I have no pride too, right? THEY'RE BOTH CHEVROLETS, YOU bundle of sticks, HAVE YOU NO SENSE OF HONOR????? Hilarity, indeed. You're a regular laugh riot. I THINK I CAN, I THINK I CAN! Yeah, once every decade and a half or so. That kind of sucks for most people, but not you! I mean, 1997 was just yesterday, right?

As for your line of work, I really don't give a shit what you do, I just hope you're not as ****ing stupid doing it as you seem to be on this board.

And look how it turned out now. Frank Martin.

lol wut?

lol wut? wut?

1-8 against Texas, Probie.

lol wut? wut in da but?

Actually they may just need 2 more schools. The Big 12 has 8 bowl slots to fill. After this season they will play a round robin schedule. The north teams will have a rougher go at it and I can see that maybe 6-7 teams in the Big 12 at most will become bowl eligible. The Big 12 will end up losing revenue. I wouldn't count on Texas sharing any of theirs. :shake:

It's a shame to see you walking around here with such a dry pecker billay

It's Nebraska's fault. They decided to go to a conference where money and television rights are shared equally and no one school is catered to. We're sorry. :(

ROFL

Coach again look at the scores of the games. I don't know one Nebraska fan that doesn't think they can't compete with Texas.

I'm glad me posting really chaps your dick.

Ok --> I need someone to come up with a made up team name for a city in california.
Rep will be given if I love it.

oakland amberlamps

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_XLsmYse0MC...mberlamps1.jpg

Nebraska wasn't running away from Texas. They were tired of the commissioner and the rest of the AD's caving in to Texas's every wish.

This slapfight isn't over yet?

Don't care about the score. A win is a win. A loss is a loss.

Good luck getting them to believe that.

Bullshit. Losing by less then a touchdown is competing William said UNL fans don't think they can compete with Texas. That's not true.

Yeah, well there it is.

You can compete, no doubt. But you can't seal the deal. That's the difference.

I disagree. Nebraska will get them this year.

Coach is right. Would of and should of won half of those games but didn't because the ball bounced Texas's way doesn't mean jack shit now. A loss is a loss is a loss. :shake:

Yea but it doesn't mean Nebraska can't compete vs Texas on the field is the point I was trying to make.

Yeah, but in their favor look at the coach that they are having to rebuild from...

Epic Beard Man Rep...... :clap:

Hell Callahan should of won 1 of the 2 games he had with them. Huskers need a 1st down to seal the win and do so and then cough up the ball on the play. Texas kicks FG with seconds to play. :banghead::banghead::banghead::cuss:

If Nebraska starts stealing Iowa's recruits I'm gonna be pissed. Ferentz can usually do more with less but the hawkeyes last two recruiting classes were pry worse than ku's

Looks like it's between Nebraska and Iowa for Zach Sterup? He's from Nebraska. It's also between Nebraska and Iowa for Christian French. Both are top 150 rated players.

Texas politicians want Houston to join the B12 ........ Isn't there enough schools from Texas in the B12 ? Just doesn't make any sense to me, already enough coverage in the Houston market .

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...ball;headlines

It's stupid. I'm going to shoot myself if the Big 12 brings in anymore Texas schools. Worthless. Yes, I'm even talking about you TCU. As far as realistic possibilities, you could try getting Arkansas, Arizona, Arizona State, New Mexico. I really don't know why Arkansas would be stupid enough to leave the SEC, but there are "reports". For AZ and ASU it would actually be a good move for them, but Texas would likely black ball it. If you aren't worried about starting a conference arms race, you could try to get Louisville, Cincinnati, or South Florida.

If NU can compete with Texas, then KSU must absolutely dominate them, because you know, a break here and there, and KSU would maybe be undefeated against UT.

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im with jerry jones on this one. lets get arkansas and notre dame
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ROFLROFLROFL

K-state does dominate Texas.

http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/201...ontent=Twitter


Meet the Texas Longhorns: The Biggest Coward Program in College Football


Clay Travis
Senior NCAA Writer


Conference realignment died because the Texas football program is made up of cowards who are aware that the Longhorns program can't compete at the top levels of the SEC or the Pac-10. That's what your takeaway from the past two weeks of conference realignment really needs to be. Yep, the state that values masculine swagger more than any other in the nation features a top football program that is yella.
All hat, no cattle.

The Longhorns had offers to move on to compete with top echelon talent in the SEC and the Pac-10. Instead, like recalcitrant female cattle, they balked, choosing to remain in a weakened Big 12 that is minus two of the traditional powers in the league.

How bad is Texas' schedule now even with a round-robin nine-game slate to come in 2012? It's likely the Longhorns will have one top 25 conference game a season, the annual Texas-Oklahoma tussle in October. Meaning Texas will try and back door its way into the BCS title game each season by avoiding challenges rather than competing with the best in college football.

If Sam Houston had known the cowardice of the Longhorns in 2010, he would have forgotten the Alamo.

What's more, while Texas is a coward in the larger universe of college football, the Longhorns are a bully in their own conference, the equivalent of a mob boss extracting loyalty payments from the five weakest members. Why did Texas (along with Oklahoma and Texas A&M) take a larger share of contractual payouts owed by Colorado and Nebraska for leaving the conference?

Because it could.

But that's how bullies always behave, right?

They beat up on the weak and then get their asses kicked or turn tail when someone steps to them. Ask Colt McCoy and Texas about that. The Longhorns quarterback threw for 4 billion yards in his career against the sisters of the poor defenses in the Big 12. He lasted for less than a full quarter against an SEC defense. Yep, the SEC and the Pac-10 would have been the barbed wire to Texas' BCS title dreams.

And that's what the Longhorns feared more than anything. Once it joined the SEC or the Pac-10, Texas is just another program, packing a six-shooter with no bullets. Waving that gun around in the air and yelling ain't scaring away Marcell Dareus on the blitz. He's calling your bluff and slapping you with your own empty gun. People might start to realize that for all the swagger, the Longhorns have just one national title in the past 39 years, nearly two generations of failing to capture the ultimate prize. They might also realize that most years, Texas can't even get past Oklahoma, the overrated team you've last seen being stomped by whatever opponent the Sooners draw in the BCS games, title or otherwise.

That's because when it comes to Texas football, the perception of success is much greater than the reality of success. Hell, give Texas credit though, at least it's the best of a bad lot. What can you say for Oklahoma or Texas A&M? Two ostensible rival schools that had the opportunity to prove they could stand on their own in the new world order of college athletics and instead hid behind Texas' skirt. In Romeo and Juliet, Shakespeare wrote during his famous balcony scene, "It is the East and Juliet is the sun!" If the bard dove into the mess that is the Big 12, he could adopt the same phraseology, "It is the Big 12 and Texas is the sun!

Because never in the history of college athletics has one program so dominated the puny conference sisters it surrounds itself with. Texas is not just the sun, but the moon and the stars, while the rest of the teams in the conference are its piddling orbiting satellites. It's only a matter of time, one would think, before the Longhorns demand the gate for games they play on the other school's campus.

That's what mob bosses do, they take and take and take until someone kills them.

You think anyone in the Big 12 has the stones to step to Texas?

Hell no.

And if you've cast your conference lot with a program that doubles as the sun, moon and stars, it might be worth asking how you ever compete with that school. Do you think Texas is ever losing a recruit to a program that voluntarily turned over its millions so you could continue to be extorted in the future? Does the mob boss have a smaller house than the poor schmuck he takes down for more money? Those are rhetorical questions. And there's your answer right there, every other school in the conference has no desire to be number one. They're just comfortable basking in the penumbra of Texas' exaggerated greatness.

Of course, the ultimate irony of this entire mess is that the joke is on all college football fans. All of us, the poor sots who tramp to our respective campuses each week in an effort to determine the best team in the nation. Because we've actually created a BCS system that encourages bullying cowardice like Texas'. Instead of forcing the best to compete and crowning a champion on the field by rewarding the two best teams, we've created a system where avoiding challenges and beating up on weaker programs gives you an automatic invite to the BCS title game.

How else to explain Texas and Oklahoma appearing in six BCS title games between them and racking up a bully-like 2-4 record with an average margin of defeat of more than 18 points in those games? Texas isn't just a coward, it is gaming the system, rigging the results to allow it a position it can't earn on the field.

In the end we're left with only one conclusion: Deep in the heart of Texas lives a football program of cowards.

Time for a new burnt orange slogan:

Hook 'em ... unless you can run and hide from 'em.

I believe Texas would have dominated the Pac-10.

ROFL This ought to keep the thread alive.

**** Texas.

I think it's time we let this elephant die.

Holy hell, that was an awesome, astute, and accurate article on the state of Texas football in the Big 12. I really wish this was a world where a school like that would get left out of realignments somehow, and royally ****ed over by every other school in the NCAA.

Texas would **** the Pac10 up. Putting aside your hatred for the evil overlord UT who beside SC would give UT a challenge?

UT would Rapelburger the pac 10....

Beautiful content/can't beat OSU when it counts; think you could have whipped USC's ass under Carroll?

HAHAHAHAHAHA@Texass


Oh, and Rep. :clap:

Didn't read the article, but did Texas not beat USC and Carrol head to head.

It's a whiner's article written by a hater. As if you can blame UT for working out a deal where they are king, earning immense revenue and running their own network.
Why would you want to be an employee in the Pac10 or SEC when you can be the boss in the B12?

No one should talk shit on Texas. We help support this institution, after all.

yeah, let's look at the ACTUAL record..


2007- W over Az St
2005- NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP W over USC
2003- LOSS to Washington St
2001- W over Wash
2000- LOSS to Stanford
2000- LOSS to Oregon
1999- W over Stanford
1998- LOSS to UCLA


That concludes the Mack Brown era... seems like 4-4 record with the wins coming more recently... I don't think Texas would DOMINATE the Pac-10... but they would be a favorite for sure.

An anual USC vs UT game would be the shit. there is still an alliance with the conference. Make it happen.
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Two additions to what was already said:

1) The money that KU, MU, KSU, et al are "giving up" to Texas and the other bigs is really in the form of a guaranteed floor meaning that if the upcoming TV revenues get those big schools to that floor on their own, the little boys won't have to really give up anything.

2) As far as scheduling is concerned, the word is that in football, everyone would play everyone else once (9 games) leaving 3 non-conference opportunities and in basketball, everyone would play a home and home with all 9 conference opponents (18 games).

Edit: Oops, I thought I was on the last page, but I was way behind. Sorry if this has already been clarified.

Cornhusker fan sounds off:

http://www.whotv.com/videobeta/5a734...ion-6-13-2010-

You know, that guy does have more than a passing resemblance to Bugeater..... :hmmm:

OU prez says Sooners, A&M got invite from SEC

By MURRAY EVANS
Associated Press Writer

ARDMORE, Okla. -- The president of the University of Oklahoma said Wednesday that his school and Texas A&M both received invitations to join the Southeastern Conference during the last round of conference realignment.

Although Oklahoma ended up remaining in the Big 12, university president David Boren said the Sooners had offers from both the SEC and the Pac-10. Boren spoke with reporters after a regents meeting for almost 40 minutes about the conference realignment process.

"I'll put it this way - we were well positioned for whatever worked out," Boren said.

SEC spokesman Craig Pinkerton said he was "not in a position to comment" on what Boren said. Boren declined to say who in the SEC issued the invitation, only that that person had the authority to do so.

Boren said the Pac-10 offer was for five Big 12 schools - Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M and Texas Tech - to join as a group. Pac-10 Commissioner Larry Scott visited the schools earlier this month to extend the invitations.

"The invitation was really to the group," Boren said. "It had to be, because you couldn't have our teams all flying to the Pacific coast every week to play games. There had to be an eastern division of schools."

Boren said the SEC extended offers only to Oklahoma and Texas A&M, both of which opted to stay in a slimmed-down Big 12 after Colorado left for the Pac-10 and Nebraska left for the Big Ten. Because the SEC offer didn't include two of the Sooners' key rivals, Oklahoma State and Texas, Boren said he didn't consider it a good option.

"There was a time when A&M thought they were going to the SEC and they very much wanted us to go with them," Boren said. "Oklahoma, in the whole thing, we were positioned in a way where virtually we could not have lost."

Last Friday, Oklahoma State president Burns Hargis confirmed that his school "never had an offer" from the SEC, "so it was never anything to consider." Both he and Boren expressed a strong interest in sticking together through any future conference realignment.

"Had the Pac-10 thing fallen apart, had the Big 12 minus two not been put back together, we would have probably ended up having much more serious conversations with the SEC, and (asked) would they take OSU and Texas, for example," Boren said. "It never got to that."

Boren characterized the Pac-10 offer as one that obviously had been researched and planned, while the SEC's offer was "more of a reaction to the situation. When they saw that the Big 12 might be no more, that all the schools might go somewhere else, they then started thinking about 'Who would we want?'"

Scott said the Pac-10 offer went nowhere because Texas decided against it. Boren said it "basically fell apart because of the difference of opinion in Texas" regarding Texas A&M's interest in the SEC.

"One school doesn't like the other one to tell them what to do," Boren said, referring to Texas and Texas A&M.

Texas A&M president R. Bowen Loftin was out of his office Wednesday. In a June 14 letter posted on the school's website, he said that by remaining a member of the Big 12, "We were able to more than double our financial return to the levels being offered by other conferences."

Loftin added that another consideration in staying in the conference was maintaining Texas A&M's "strong foothold" in the state and preserving longtime rivalries.

Big 12 athletic directors met this week in Irving, Texas, to discuss the conference's future. Commissioner Dan Beebe said the Big 12 has "no interest in expansion" and that it was "not a consideration" at the meeting.

"There is a great deal of excitement about the future of the conference," Beebe said in a statement. "Our member institutions look forward to the continuation of excellent competition and providing outstanding experiences for our student-athletes. The 10-school model is one that is extremely attractive and provides the opportunity for continued long-term success."
AP Sports Writers Chris Duncan in Houston and Jeff Latzke in Oklahoma City contributed to this report.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/06/2...#ixzz0rmHr06UY

http://www.omaha.com/article/2010062...second-guesses

ROFL

Your author ought to get some lawyer friends who know something about the law.

Harvey Perlman is a lawyer, so I'm not too worried about this:)

You shouldn't be. It's not your money that we're gonna take.

:LOL:

Half the people involved in this on both sides are lawyers. Your confidence in Perlman is touching but naive.

So Perlman is the new Bill Callahan? Excellent. :clap:

:D Good one Saul.

Boren said the Pac-10 offer was for five Big 12 schools - Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M and Texas Tech - to join as a group. Pac-10 Commissioner Larry Scott visited the schools earlier this month to extend the invitations.

Wow. There would have been some disenfranchised folks on this board if the Pac10 deal went through.

Seems like you remember Sam Hall sucking his cock at every turn as well, while the rest of the board knew he would be an absolute failure.

Bill Calihan, I still can't believe he even got that job. It was almost as fun as KSU haveing Ron Prince.

Don't get too excited about building that new practice facility with the money from NU:)

Yeah. At least we were fairly skeptical of him. After 06 I thought we had a decent coach that may win us some games here and there, but I knew exactly what he was after 07, a turd.

Callahan was outright worshiped by Sam Hall and the likes.

I just hope the same isn't said about me when it come to Turner Gill. Only time will tell but I will eat my crow if Gill sucks.

I don't think it can come close to the Callahan worship that Sam Hall displayed, even if he wins 10 games in his first year.

I think it has to do more w/ the contract than if they can prove damages. I'm pretty sure the Big 12 contract states you pay a penalty no matter what of a certain % for each year you do not give adequate notice.

the Big 12 was formed under Delaware corporate law, which is the most thoroughly validated corporate law in the country. I'm quite sure whomever drafted the charter made a pretty strong contract.