They need to take snaps from guys that just aren't getting it done and give them to Rice. I really think if he was given at least the 3rd most snaps amongst the WRs that he'd get damn close or even surpass 1000 yds. I think Mahomes clearly trusts him more than the other WRs too, even with the drop issues, because he has more targets than everyone of them and plays less than most of them.

Reid needs to bite the bullet and let him play more.

I'm almost positive it was CDCox somewhere. Wish I had any recollection as to when/where it was. I think it was in August when we were talking about Rice. Hell it may be in this thread somewhere.

It was pretty interesting. It really does suggest there's a thresshold level of ability and if these WRs don't hit it, they don't stick around very long and thus don't impact the large numbers significantly.

And it also gets back to how narrow the lines are drawn between the JAGs and the superstars. The differences between Skyy Moore and Antonio Brown may not be easy to see on paper, but boy howdy do they scream loudly on a football field.

In closing - RAS is reeruned.

Found 'em....


I'll leave it to him to really expound on his data if he wants, but most any prolific receiver over large enough sample sizes is going to drop 6.5% of the passes he gets thrown, plus or minus a little in the margins.

Even with the pending cap rape theyre facing down, I doubt they would be interested.

So I played Basketball as a kid, not football.

My serious question:

Why do so many NFL players seem to have problems with uncontested drops that stabilize after a couple of years.

Why don't they figure this out in college?

Is the ball being thrown harder? Or are there a lot of drops in college. I don't watch much college. Or even if the catch is uncontested is something else going on? Like it's harder to get open so less attention to tracking the ball?

It's a mix bag.

Flowers is getting a ton of snaps. He's basically the second option in the pass game behind Andrews.

JSN is being worked in pretty slowly but he missed part of camp with injury and he has 2 high level WRs in front of him and a HC that wants to run the ball, with 2 highly drafted RBs.

QJ so far is an absolute dud, even without Williams his snap count isn't great and Palmer is getting a lot more targets.

Addison you can see the route running and explosion and the highlight plays he's making. Osbourne is ahead of him for now..I doubt that lasts much longer.

But as we move down, Tank Dell is getting starter snaps and it seems he and Nico Collins are taking turns on who will have the big game each week.

Mingo is getting starter snaps but he's been a dud...not sure how much is him and how much is the Carolina offense being a turd.

Jayden Reed is seeing a pretty solid role in GB as the slot guy and he has a good number of snaps and targets.

Marvin Mims is basically doing exactly what Rice is doing in that he's being slowly worked into the system, he has hit a few HR plays in that process.

Jalin Hyatt and Cedric Tillman seem to be MIA in being in bad offenses.

Josh Downs, basically echo the Reed comment, he's the starting slot and has a solid role.

Michael Wilson now this one is interesting, he's a starter, albeit on a pretty bad team but he has had solid production so far.

That's the first 3 rounds after that the guys are doing about what you'd expect of Day 3 WRs, some snaps here and there, specials etc. Unless you're Puka Nacua.

Of that question, the Johnston one is the most concerning to me. He was drafted to replace Mike Williams and when they had Allen, Palmer and Johnston out there Herbert basically doesn't throw it to QJ.

Is that a trust thing or does Johnston suck at getting open?

Actually...Nacua is good, TuTu Atwell has a role and Kupp is a top 5 WR....that is not a bad room, Van Jefferson basically shit his pants when given a chance though.

Almost like most rookie WR's, especially ones that aren't Jamar Chase are gonna come into the league and have to take some time to get up to speed no?

It's more common for someone to come in and be able to play right away today than it was a decade ago.

This wasn't a great WR draft but if you go back the last several years you'll find many rookie WR's that were productive right away.

It's crazy how good Puka has been.

Not to burst anyone’s bubble, bland I like what we’re seeing from Rice in his limited snaps so far, but he’s struggling against man. Went 0-fer vs. man coverage last night.

It's because of him though, apparently Stafford and Kupp do this thing where they have breakfast together and go over film/strategy etc...Nacua asked to join them basically as soon as he got there.

Stuff like that really helps a dude become a top player.

Honestly, it would be really cool if someone did an All22 breakdown of our receivers. I'm not asking anyone here to do it, but if one of the podcast, talking heads, or Keysor did it, that would be awesome.

They're literally force feeding him. Guy has 52 targets. He's on pace to shatter the record for most targets in a season