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Red Dawg 01-28-2019 06:36 PM

Ford has gotta go. One trick pony. Not and all around player for what he will cost. He lost the damn game. Mental idiot.

Easy 6 01-28-2019 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 14078231)
Instead of lining up offsides imagine he gets a sack-fumble on that play to win the game.

Rather than calling for his release, everyone on here would be clamoring to sign him long term.

What a difference one play can make.

Even with the decent year he had, there were always questions surrounding his long term viability... now with the move to a 43, it's a no brained that his time here is over

He has one strong suit and that's it, we need complete football players with great instincts, and he clearly is not that guy

chiefzilla1501 01-28-2019 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 14078253)
Even with the decent year he had, there were always questions surrounding his long term viability... now with the move to a 43, it's a no brained that his time here is over

He has one strong suit and that's it, we need complete football players with great instincts, and he clearly is not that guy

I don't know that's necessarily the case if we end up playing more of an over front. He doesn't have to be great against the run in that alignment, I don't think.

Chiefnj2 01-28-2019 06:53 PM

The only two positives this season on the defense were (1) the pass rush and (2) playing time for Ward, Smith and Lucas. That's it.

Now people want to get rid of Ford and possibly get rid of Houston if he won't restructure. Good luck generating a pass rush next year.

Red Dawg 01-28-2019 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 14078284)
The only two positives this season on the defense were (1) the pass rush and (2) playing time for Ward, Smith and Lucas. That's it.

Now people want to get rid of Ford and possibly get rid of Houston if he won't restructure. Good luck generating a pass rush next year.

We need more than just a pass rush. They were useless againt Brady. Save the money, turn loos Speaks and Kpass. Sign a damn LB and a DB. Cut Dan's worthless ass and get a better Safety. Berry to.

BleedingRed 01-28-2019 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 14078284)
The only two positives this season on the defense were (1) the pass rush and (2) playing time for Ward, Smith and Lucas. That's it.

Now people want to get rid of Ford and possibly get rid of Houston if he won't restructure. Good luck generating a pass rush next year.

Welcome to hell

chiefzilla1501 01-28-2019 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 14078284)
The only two positives this season on the defense were (1) the pass rush and (2) playing time for Ward, Smith and Lucas. That's it.

Now people want to get rid of Ford and possibly get rid of Houston if he won't restructure. Good luck generating a pass rush next year.

Spagnuolo's history suggests that we're going to bring in a lot of talent in the secondary. A good secondary can often help your pass rush. I'm open to keeping them though.

New World Order 01-28-2019 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 14078284)
The only two positives this season on the defense were (1) the pass rush and (2) playing time for Ward, Smith and Lucas. That's it.

Now people want to get rid of Ford and possibly get rid of Houston if he won't restructure. Good luck generating a pass rush next year.

Pass rush didn't matter at all vs NE.

I'd rather have 2 legit starters at LB and secondary than Dee Ford.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-28-2019 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 14078284)
The only two positives this season on the defense were (1) the pass rush and (2) playing time for Ward, Smith and Lucas. That's it.

Now people want to get rid of Ford and possibly get rid of Houston if he won't restructure. Good luck generating a pass rush next year.

$37.5M in cap space for Houston and Ford will limit the rest of the roster severely. They can’t let that happen.

They’ll still play with enough leads and have enough talent to rush the passer well without Ford IMO.

I’ve got my eyes on Shane Ray as a potential cheap and effective replacement.

BleedingRed 01-28-2019 07:07 PM

Question,

If our secondary is so bad why did we get so many sacks? Don’t you need time to get to QB?

Please stop using NE as a example of our rush being bad, that is not what it was. It’s a example of a coach being reeruned....

Easy 6 01-28-2019 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14078281)
I don't know that's necessarily the case if we end up playing more of an over front. He doesn't have to be great against the run in that alignment, I don't think.

If Spagnuolo envisions a role for him that fits what it will cost to keep him, fine

But my money says hard choices will be made as this conversion takes place... and Ford will be a casualty, just too many questions regarding where he fits in vs his cost

htismaqe 01-28-2019 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 14078231)
Instead of lining up offsides imagine he gets a sack-fumble on that play to win the game.

Rather than calling for his release, everyone on here would be clamoring to sign him long term.

What a difference one play can make.

My thoughts on Ford have nothing at all to do with the AFCCG. The guy is an injury waiting to happen. I have been on the record all season that they should tag him and take what they can if they can get it.

NOTHING has changed at all.

htismaqe 01-28-2019 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 14078303)
Welcome to hell

ROFL

Yeah, being a few inches away from going to the Super Bowl is "hell". This place never disappoints.

New World Order 01-28-2019 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 14078303)
Welcome to hell

You really think it's going to be just as bad? We have a better coordinator at the helm.

I'd be shocked if we weren't active in FA, perhaps adding 1 or 2 impact FA. We may lose Ford, but we'll be better behind the defensive LOS.

I'd be shocked if we weren't top 16 in ppg and top 20 in ypg

That would have been enough to win the sb this year.

The Franchise 01-28-2019 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14078333)
ROFL

Yeah, being a few inches away from going to the Super Bowl is "hell". This place never disappoints.

He’s been bitching since Ryan didn’t get hired.


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