Giving away the farm to move up in a weak class like this should be a non starter in everyones mind

Tyron Smith was on my short list last year.


Let's get him.

Yup. They have no choice but to go after a stable vet and build the rest of the offense.

This draft is damn good at TE, RB, CB and DL. They’re gonna need to add to those. Offense is painfully slow and non-explosive outside of Worthy and Rashee.

Also something people aren’t talking about: Spags can’t keep disguising blitzes. He needs a strong young pass rusher added to this roster badly.

Good luck on that, he thinks Michael Strahan is the prototype for his defense and those guys are unicorns. That's Myles Garrett, it's why we never see dude's who are speed rushers on the field here.

Yeah, that is one negative for Spags.


We could find the greatest steal of a pass rusher in the 3rd but those types tend to be undersized, situational and he would never see the field here.

Then best case scenario is we're back in the same spot next off season. Most realistic scenario is we're back in the same spot IN season seeing as he misses multiple games every season.

He played more snaps than Ronnie Stanley this past year.

My #1 FA target would likely be Alaric Jackson. Gives you everything the other vets give you on top of only being 26.

I just don't see the Rams letting him get away.

Then you don’t think Mahomes is the best qb in football. Josh Allen’s window hasn’t closed and he does not have hof players.

As in 2024? Stanley played nearly 100% of the snaps this season.

But he does have a very good LT situation for 99% of the games over the last 7 years. Mahomes would be thrilled to have Dion Dawkins. Instead it has been a shit show of rotating guys that can't do the job very well.

That said, it's hilarious that Buffalo has had this type of stability & health at both the QB & LT position...with no rings to show for it. They also outspent the Chiefs by $42 million of cash in 2023, had home field advantage in the Playoffs, and still got nothing out of it. OUCH

I like the sumo wrestler idea

Rashee Rice was looking like a top 10 WR before he got hurt. Worthy looked like a legit weapon by year end.

Those 2 are going to be damn good weapons. And we get to add onto that.

Veach tried to get Josh Jacobs last year. He’s going to get a damn good RB to go with these studs.

We’ll be just fine

Good line and a good running back

Their defense has let them down each time in the playoffs.

They should replace McDermott with Fangio.

Yeah and there are guys like McDuffie and Creed. I get that guys will get old and retire but it just underscores the need to draft well.

Aaron Jones, Najee Harris, and Chubb are all free agents....not sure CHubb is worth it though since he's coming off an ACL.

Fangio is an old man. He's not head coach material.

That's true, but Josh and the Buffalo offense got away with a SHITLOAD of turnover worthy plays in the last two Playoff matchups with the Chiefs. I counted 4-5 of them in the game a year ago, plus another 7-8 turnover worthy plays in the game this year. It was ridiculous how lucky Buffalo was on a lot of those plays. Chiefs defense just not able to make them pay for the mistakes.

Yeah. Our defense doesn't force many turnovers though. Some teams have a knack for taking the ball away. We had that for instance in the 90's.

He's 33 years old.

He's the definition of a stop-gap. I'm not necessarily opposed, but if it takes a high pick it's not smart. And you're going to have to do this again next year or the year after-and '26 is when you can get out from under Taylor's deal.

So yeah, I mean, maybe, but he's not THAT expensive honestly, and with a young QB I'd think you would want that veteran presence.

Your logic is flawed.

If 'teams don't like the players at the top', then why do we want to throw half a draft worth of picks to get up there? Because if 'teams don't like the players at the top', then there isn't a sure-fire LT in that pool. If there was, nobody up there would let him get away.

PFF top 10 FA Tackles

Ronnie Stanley, Baltimore Ravens
Garett Bolles, Denver Broncos
Cam Robinson, Minnesota Vikings
Walker Little, Jacksonville Jaguars
Tyron Smith, New York Jets
Alaric Jackson, Los Angeles Rams
Dan Moore Jr., Pittsburgh Steelers
Morgan Moses, New York Jets
Jedrick Wills Jr., Cleveland Browns
Justin Skule, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

DOES BRETT VEACH LOOK LIKE A BITCH?

-what?

I SAID, DOES BRETT VEACH LOOK LIKE A BITCH? SAY WHAT ONE MORE TIME MOTHER****ER.

It's always gonna be stop-gaps, until they get some luck with a younger guy like Kingsley. Would be amazing if Kingsley (or even Wanya) can make a big step forward in this offseason.

There's no Joe Thomas in this draft. That is a lot to give up for a LT prospect when he isn't viewed as a sure fire starter in the league.

This conversation has gotten absurd.

I promise you, not a single poster here on the board OR anyone in the Chiefs organization is unconcerned with the left tackle situation. Not a single person.

IF you don't follow the draft, and don't know what left tackles are IN this draft, don't spout a bunch of noise about trading whatever is necessary to go up and get THE GUY. The reality is, this is not THAT draft.

This team is going to have a lot of tough decisions this off-season, and there will be significant turnover. We're going to need those picks to fill a lot of holes.

Nobody trades great Left Tackles with prime years left. It's extremely rare, and only happens if they already have ONE, and they don't want to pay TWO. So, if this is what you want, Alaris Jackson is your man. Now, the resume is short, and there's a risk, but he did a nice job for the Rams this season. They've already got the other guy that was their plan A. Cam Robinson is Jawaan Taylor only not as good. I don't know about YOU, but I'm not crazy about that idea.

If you're talking about an over 30 guy hopefully with a little left in the tank, we're talking stop-gap. This is probably the most likely path, and that mix will probably include Humphries. You will probably be over-paying in most cases. This means saying goodbye to good younger players you'd like to keep. This opens more holes. Nonetheless, this is PROBABLY what we'll do. Stop-gap and hope Kingsley develops behind him.

Except they didn't go cheap at LT. They tried signing Trent Williams but he wanted to go to SF.

They then pivoted to Brown Jr. who they tried to resign, but his pride got in the way and he signed with Cincy for less than what KC offered.

They moved on from him to Donovan Smith who was a stop gap and sadly the best option available.

This year they drafted a high upside guy in Round 2 who ended up being far more raw than anyone expected. Plus they brought in Humphries once he was medically cleared and he sadly did not pan out.

It's not like there is this glut of FA LTs out there that they passed on to save a buck or two. LT is the second hardest position to fill on offense outside of QB. It's even harder when you draft 28 or higher every year.

We are seeing the effects of why dynasties are so hard to build and maintain. Every team in this year's playoffs have benefitted from down years except KC.

Outside of tanking (which Mahomes will never do), this is going to be the lot of this team for many more years.

This means in order to maintain the dynasty they are going to have to be smart with FA signings as well as keeping as many picks as possible in order to draft as much talent as possible. That also means taking chances on raw, high upside guys like Kingsley and hoping they live up to it.

You mean like Kingsley?

let Humphries, Robinson, if he is affordable and Kingsley fight it out...Wanya too

Would love that if he actually hits the market. I would also wonder why the Rams let him walk.

Mongo is a FA?

That was four years ago.

Recently, including this past offseason, the Chiefs went the cheap route to try to fill their LT position.

And the results speak for themselves.

Two kinds of capital in the NFL, bud. Cap dollars and draft picks. You have a limited supply of each. You have great demand for Left Tackles, and very short supply.

You act as though there were all-pro's sitting there and we said, "Nah, that's more than we want to spend."

That's not the case.

This is more than likely true.

I'm warming up to Tyron Smith

The NYJ are going through a shakeup, dude could probably be reasonably acquired... Smith, Humphries and Suamataia fighting to earn it this offseason just sounds right to me considering the other options

Two seasoned vets and a solid second year project with traits seems like a good trio to bet on in my book.. someone competent is surely coming out the other side of that competition

Good thing that I didn't just mention Trent then. Explain what "not going cheap" looks like post Trent.

He's the kind of veteran that Mahomes would trust and feel comfortable with.

Probably still better than what we got from Donovan Smith last year.

Allocating the $$$ they wasted on a terrible right tackle, towards addressing the left tackle position.

That would be a good start.

If they're trading up for a guy, the guy will likely be more polished than Kingsley and won't be game breaking like him. You can live with rookie mistakes as long as they're not putting Patrick Mahomes body at risk every single snap.

How about don’t enter a season with a 2nd round raw rookie and second year player who struggled mightily as a rookie as your only options at LT?

There is a middle ground that doesn’t necessitate signing an “all pro” LT.

A veteran LT… i.e Tyron Smith… would have been better than recklessly going into a season with two inexperienced LT’s.

Accolades coming out of his ears star veteran on the backside, yet had an up year late in his career in 2024?

Sounds like a Veach special to me

Yeah sign me up for a reasonable price, some of these older guys are just built different and are able to hold up better as they age with superior genetics and guile... gimme a three way camp battle, and may the best man win

Sign Jackson for LT, trade for Garrett and draft a explosive RB early. Find depth for the o-line and dline and hopefully a corner and this team would be stacked next year. Rice probably gets a 2 game suspension so definitely need another wr.

Such as whom? Who out there did they not go after because they wanted to go cheap with the LT position?

He was on IR since November with a neck injury. Not so sure about that. And he's 34.

There wasn't much for FA LTs last year either.

No, he signed an extension.

Last year’s draft with that OT class would have been the time to do that. This year’s OT class, not so much.

Yeah I'll pass on Tyron. He hasn't played a full season since 2015. He's 100% guaranteed to miss multiple games if not outright ending up on IR.

Kid from KC. Gotta say I’m impressed. However I remember Lucas Niang handling Chase Young in a game too.

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What is the likelihood this happens instead lol?

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Dude got 4m. He owes us deal

Most likely and at this point possibly the best option is he comes back and competes with Kingsley. There’s one maybe two better fa tackles and they have their warts. If Humphries doesn’t round into form and Kingsley doesn’t develop the 26 FA class has more options and a few better than this year. At that point t thuneys probably got one year left, Taylor’s out, Kingsley or wanya take over and you can pay your top choice as needed.

I just have a feeling Andy doesn’t want to go the rookie route again.

Feel like we’re overpaying for someone.

Yep. Next year is the year to fix in FA sadly. There's no good, realistic options in FA or probably the draft

Yup, especially when you have a oline coach who can’t develop tackles.

Especially when that plan was a total fail after week 2. The issue also was Plan B was a total fail... Morris proved he could not play LT last a rookie in '23 and proved it again this past year. And Andy Heck proved something also.

Sign one of the top free agent LTs and draft a guard replacement for Trey...

Genius

Thank you.

Andy Reid benched the LT multiple times this season when they were struggling badly. The fact he wouldn't even consider putting Humphries in while Thuney and Caliendo got repeatedly destroyed by rookies speaks volumes, especially considering Humphries was taking half the first team reps all throughout the postseason in practice. Regardless of whether it was ability or stamina or just being a brokedick, Andy Reid refused to call his number at the moment of truth. Don't bring him back.

Let Suamataia take his lumps and ****ING HELP HIM if it comes to that.

Sick of that logic. Do something to actually fix it.

That's how it always starts.

Then they face a Crosby or Hendrickson, have a super horribad game, and then kablooie! They're a bust!

You could do a lot worse than Suamataia as a prospect. His first game against the Ravens he had struggles but also repeatedly flashed what made him such a high ceiling player. Leaving him out to die against Hendrickson, cratering his confidence, and benching him is still one of the most infuriating things Andy Reid has ever done as a head coach.

When we trade for Garrett we just ask for Jack Conklin too.

If they had let him develop during the season, they would have been much more confident letting him play in the SB.

We're not getting Garrett.

Ideally he's not even active on game day. Had multiple fatal flaws in technique. But if you've made the decision to fast track his development in a trial by fire give the poor kid some ****ing grace and help him out a bit.

You can't trot him out there day one in '25. You just can't.

He needs to be 2nd string and hopefully earn it at some point.

Whether it be Humphries or another stop-gap, you have to have a different plan A.

Humphries is not a plan A. Period. He's unreliable. Having a stopgap in front of Kingsley I agree with, but Humphries just ain't it given what's just happened.

Preparing Suamataia to take over for Taylor really wouldn't be the worst idea IMO unless he's shown remarkable improvement to open 2025. If that's the way you want to take it then signing Jackson if he makes it or more likely Robinson to a long term deal may be the move.

They went 15-1 and made the SB with basically worst-case scenario LT play

Orlando Brown almost cost us SB57 with a whiff that led to Mahomes’ ankle sprain, and then another bad block the next year led to Joe Burrow’s wrist injury

Shit is hard, we’ll figure it out and get better, it won’t guarantee us anything though in terms of another title. Just keep plugging and honestly regardless, Mahomes needs to have an epic offseason and get back on track mentally.

You've literally advocated for just playing Sumaitaia and taking our lumps, but Humphries in front of him is unreliable?

LMAO

If we're going to spend REAL money, then Jackson is the bet.

If we're going to stop-gap and hope Kingsley can earn it later, that's fine too.

Felt like we overachieved this year and shouldn't have made it past the AFCCG.