Oh, a concussion, a cut, and some bruises. I wonder what similar injury settlements and judgements look like. I bet medical expenses plus five figures. Asking for seven is some serious ambulance chasing.

And “concussion symptoms” are more difficult to independently diagnose… easier to manipulate/exaggerate.

Maybe these people are scamming for $$$. Hell, it’s probably even likely, but my God, let’s not forget they’re the victims here who were simply driving safely to arrive at their destination when Rashee Rice and his clown crew ruined their day.

Wouldn’t his insurance company cover or deal with these suits?

Yes, but it depends what limits he chose with his policy. There's a good chance that this will exceed those limits.

These so-called "victims" might not be so innocent. Can't rule out the possibility they were committing one or even multiple hate crimes: scoffing at Rashee Rice's neck tattoo and/or disparaging his durag. Likely they met the definition of that's rayciss! according to the esteemed Jewish Rabbi. Even the black mother, and especially her 4-year-old son.

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From the video I saw, he didn't almost kill anyone. Not even remotely close. This is getting sort of ridiculous at this point.

Was it really dumb? Yea. Lets cool the jets here a bit though.

yeah that’s BS. Of course the minor injuries became insufferable damage but if you give me a million bucks, we will call it even.

He has no choice. He wants to plead these down he has to make satisfactorily restitution to the “victims” before they plead anything down.

He left his playbook in the car as he walked away in broad daylight with people taking pictures as anyone would do after an accident of that type.

I don't think he deserves to die or be released or suspended more than 2 (maybe 4) games, but damn, it's holistically still dumb, dangerous, and immature.

I don't think we need to defend every ounce of this. "Well, these high performance cars accelerate so fast and he innocently didn't understand that..." Come on.

You also saw 2 seconds of their racing and had that continued for another 10 or 30 seconds it could've killed someone, no? Or is there a reason you think that was clearly the peak of their interaction and the race was going to end immediately?

I think losing control of a vehicle at that speed constitutes almost killing himself and anyone in his car.

At least that's the lecture I get when I'm talking my way out of a speeding ticket.

Civil court and criminal court arent a one stop shop.


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*the sound of the Bullshit Alarms blasting loudly*

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Yeah the homers are out of line no doubt, this thing could go sideways any number of ways... excusing his bullshit actions away isnt a good look, a four game suspension is the best outlook I can see

You really don't know the difference between what actually happened and what could have happened?

He didn't almost kill anyone because he didn't almost kill anyone. Had it gone on for 30 seconds longer he may have cleared any traffic or he may have run himself into a wall harmlessly or the exact same thing could have happened.


The statement was "almost killing someone" when there is zero evidence "he almost killed someone."

COULD someone have died in a car accident, well no shit sherlock. Nobody came remotely close to dying though and that's simply the facts.

His worst action here was leaving the scene, that's more egregious than the accident in my mind.

Some of you just want to argue this just to argue.

Lolwut.

This is going to blow your mind but the law feels the same way. That's why the penalty for leaving the scene is generally greater than the penalty for the accident.

One time during a sobriety check I told the officer it was really scary and hard to concentrate because he was just so large and intimidating.

He told me to go home. 🥰 And to not forget my shoes.

I am simply responding to the video where you claimed he wasn't "remotely close" to killing anyone. Are you serious about that? Do you really think within 5-10 seconds of that interaction he couldn't have had a let's say 5-10% chance of killing someone versus the normal 0.001% chance of killing someone in the lane next to you?

We're talking about probabilities. Anyone can die in a traffic accident. He raised that possibility by leaps and bounds. I am well aware it didn't end up in a fatality, and I don't think he shouldn't be punished as if it did or almost did. But I also think it's absurd to ignore what happened.

If you drive drunk and no one dies, is it totally fine that you just drove drunk? Because kids will be kids and no one suffered the consequences even if you were pulled over by the police?

Exactly

And if the drunk driver caused an accident, he better not leave the scene. Because leaving the scene is more egregious than driving drunk and causing the accident in the first place apparently.

I'm willing to presume beyond a reasonable doubt, that anyone that leaves the scene of an accident, outside of medical reasons, is driving under the influence.

Now if they have some really good evidence why it made sense, I'll listen, but...

being sued for 10 million ROFL

dumbass

None of this was fine, and most on here are very clear on that. He ****ed up, bad, period... He got lucky it wasn't worse. He was probably high when he crashed as well, totally unacceptable. He is paying a price with a hit to his pocket book and his reputation. If he wouldn't have left, he probably was looking at 1-2 games like Echols, but as I said in the other thread, he will probably get 3, maybe 4 because the league will view him leaving as a DUI. He was an idiot and it was a poor decision by a young man that either A) won't happen again, or B) he is a knuckle dragger and will continue this path and be cut at the next **** up. I'm hoping it's the former and he redeems himself and his character.

Would insurance cover racing your rental against your own car?

Honestly. Him paying out 7 figures might benefit us. He needs to play outstanding to get paid by someone.

I completely agree. But he also could’ve easily killed someone with his actions. And it’s not any sort of stretch. We can admit that and still think he’s a Chief for multiple seasons going forward and can very, very, very easily redeem himself. That’s it.

We don’t need to sugarcoat the rest of it with excuses.

Again, if you read through the previous thread and this one, most, including myself, said he was extremely lucky he didn't kill someone else or himself. He's lost a lot $ and cred with Chiefs fans, but he could have lost everything. I just hope he get it...

He wasn't charged with racing, and rarely will insurance win that fight. He most likely had to have a supplemental policy when you rent a car of that worth. That's probably the main reason he came out and said he was driving the car so soon, as the insurance on the rental would have only covered him as the driver.

Rental insurance doesnt cover things damaged while commiting a felony.

Hope the ambulance chasers are in a rented Lambo

You are a smart guy yet for some reason you keep comparing what could have happened in the absolute worst case to what actually did happen like they are similar.

The reality is we all live lives where outcomes mostly don’t come close to worst case scenario and we don’t spend all our time acting like it almost did.

You ever run a red light or stop sign? Sure you have. Your dumb inattentive ass could have killed someone! But you didn’t. You didn’t come close I’m sure.

It’s not sugar coating it’s reality. We don’t get judged on what “could “ have happened under different circumstances.

Lol, nice to see some Chiefs fans are so happy to shit on and gloat about one of their own players’ problems. Nice fan base. Maybe if you really feel that way you should go find another team to ‘support’ in your own shit-ass fashion, bitches.

The reality? He had a major accident on a major interstate with cars around him in reasonably heavy traffic. He wasn’t just speeding without any consequence. It happened. It could’ve been much, much worse. You’re commenting that it wasn’t reasonably close to more? Sure, but relative to what?

You’re absolutely sugarcoating this.

If you were driving on the highway and you saw these two vehicles racing each other at 120mph, you would hate every ounce of their being and the risk they’ve put you through, no? I don’t even see how that could possibly be in question. Or would some of you feel better because they were only in their early 20s?

It’s much more admirable to spend an entire season bitching about the shortcomings of those players on the field. You just might be more of a bitch in that context, fwiw.

Lol, okay TC. I see you’re still butt-hurt about facts. Whatever. Btw, my post above wasn’t even directed at your posts. I’ve been mostly in agreement with them. I thought you were doing a good job of keeping things real without pissing on Rice, unlike some others around here.


But you keep being you, hun.

Just like Jordan Addison “could” have killed someone when he was driving 140 MPH on a major highway in Minneapolis.

But he didn’t, and he received no suspension from the NFL because they don’t discipline based on hypothetical occurrences that never actually happened.

Chiefs player was disciplined for throwing a vacuum.
Von Miller nothing.

He is getting suspended.

Yes, I already said I think he’ll get suspended… just not the absurd suspension lengths that some here have been suggesting.

Willie Gay plead guilty and was suspended afterwards. Von hasn't even went to court yet.

The lawyer for the couple is interviewed in this clip if anyone is interested. I think a fair punishment for Rice is 2 to 4 games but going forward I hope the NFL and the players union agree on tougher punishments for reckless driving infractions. It just is happening too often. For people calling for a larger amount of games for Rice to be suspended for, I don’t think it’s fair for the NFL to use him as an example.

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NFL certainly can do tougher punishments.

But if too many young people are driving reckless...

I would rather see the state of Texas agree on tougher punishments.

As opposed to only having NFL players worried about reckless driving, seems like the court system should be such to defer behavior.

Well then he's a terrible person. Chiefs should cut him asap

FREE RASHEE!!!!!

He will only get a fair trial in Kansas City. If the grey shorts don't fit, you must acquit!

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Their greed is a little preemptive since the guy is a round 2 pick on his rookie contract.

Do you think he will be convicted of a felony?

Imagine Otter’s reaction when Patrick pops up with a new neck tatt and du rag after spending some time with this thug Rashee

Its a felony in CO.

Texas just extradited our speed racer even tho Denver had given up on getting him because they "understood" Texas extradition policy.

Texas will do as Texas does.

remind me not to buy a Lexus if that's the outcome. :rolleyes:

I'm generally with the people who are saying this is not as big of a deal as people are making it but also just because a player is a Chiefs player doesn't mean you support them blindly no matter what they do.


That's some TrueFan idiocy. I can't believe people are out here shitting on Jovan Belcher just because he murdered his girlfriend then blew his head off in the Arrowhead parking lot. Nice fan base. Maybe if you really feel that way you should go find another team to ‘support’ in your own shit-ass fashion, bitches.

Texas has a punitive damages cap, though.

Appears to be double the economic damages. And they won't be able to establish even $500K in economic damages (pain and suffering fall under 'non-economic' damages).

So that's just a headline grab. Admittedly I've not dug into exceptions to the cap that may be allowed in certain circumstances but I'd be surprised if there are any/many. The nature of punitive damages in a personal injury matter almost preclude it. You only award punitives in cases of gross negligence in those cases (or willful disregard) and those would be the most obvious instances to make an exception. Well if you wanted to except those, you just wouldn't have the cap at all.

I mean look, if they can establish some lunatic 'continuing care' sort of fund that gets the economics up to $500K, it's gonna be plenty of pain for Rashee. That's probably going to be something like $500K in economic, $500K in non-economic and another million in punitives for a total of $2 million.

But even that feels INCREDIBLY unlikely. It's more likely to be $100-$200K when all is said and done.

Guy ain't gonna get slapped for $10 million. Just more sensationalism.

I'm more than happy to "shit" on people that do stupid shit like Rice did regardless of whether they are a Chief, a Devil, or a Brave. My being a fan doesn't force me to tolerate stupidity from people on the team.

I caught the same bullshit from Braves fans for saying McCann and Morton can both suck unwashed cock and all they did was cheat in baseball. Takes like yours is how we wind up with politicians holding office for life despite the shady underhanded bullshit they pull. Excuses and swerves because they are on "your team".

GFY

Money/attention grab. Assuming he bought reasonable amounts of BI liability insurance then 99 times out of 100 they will just max out bi limits. You rarely hear about it going further than that. A judge won't let it.

Free my boi Rashee he ain't do nothing

He was using his leased Lambo to defend those cars from the psycho driver in the Vette. Lucky he was there or it could have been much worse.

I think we can all agree that the lesson here is to send your friend with the bag away to seek medical attention while you wait at the scene.

So, a 5% chance is "almost" happening?

Man, the things I've ALMOST done.

Lol, right back at ya, dipstick.



Try to comprehend this: I have said repeatedly that what Rice and his friends did was in very poor judgement, and also that they should be punished appropriately.

But what I've been careful not to do is trash Rice as a person over what might be just one bad decision. Before I start calling him trash and so forth I want to see what he has to say for himself and how he behaves/makes decisions going forward, simple as that.


It's called giving people the benefit of the doubt.

If anyone is interested and has time, read the entire article in this link, I’m amazed how Jamin Davis of the Commanders has been able to stay under the radar. The only reason I’m aware of this is because the fatal crash happened about 10 minutes from my home.

Jamin Davis wasn’t driving the car that the woman was killed in but he is allegedly involved according to the lawsuit.

Did this ever make the news in the Kansas City area? I’ve never seen anyone mention it when bringing up other players who have been caught driving recklessly prior to Rashee’s incident.

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Explain how exactly your “no tolerance for stupidly from people on the team” will manifest itself moving forward.

Are you going to boo Rashee everytime he makes a play for the Chiefs next season… as you watch on from your goat farm?

Explain.

OUT ON BAIL FRESH OUT OF JAIL CALIFORNIA DREAMIN'

SOON AS I STEP ON THE SCENE IM HEARIN' HOOCHIES SCREAMIN'

If an idiot in a car next to me pulls a stunt that has a 5% of killing or seriously injuring me, I would like to see them go to jail.

If someone slightly annoys me, I would like to see them go to jail.

But like....what if that idiot was Rashee Rice or Patrick Mahomes?

$10MM for a car accident you didn't even stay overnight in the hospital? These people are as just as much turds as Rice is.

You apparently don't drive much do you?

Janx has never done anything stupid in his life like drive fast, am I right?

It is a farm... just happen to have goats here. In fact... I have more fruit trees than goats.

In the same way it has prior to this specific event.

If a player on a team I like does something I consider to be stupid I'm not gonna bend over backwards defending them. I'm not gonna make excuses or minimize their actions. I would want those players treated just like any other person would in the same situation.

I'm also not going to attack the fanhood of others because they see things differently than I do. People wanting someone held accountable for their actions doesn't make them less of a fan. It is the same "true fan" bullshit that got tossed around back when this forum was flying banners over Arrowhead.

Lemme ask you... why does it chap your ass so badly that someone sees this differently than you do? You and IHC have damn near lapped everyone in posts in this thread and 93% of it has been straight vitriol.

You even argue with people who hold the same thoughts as you... that he will get a 2-4 game suspension from the league. I've told you I don't wanna see the guy in jail. What the **** else do you want from me? Shine your shoes?

**** dude... you come into threads just swinging at anyone who dare say anything you even remotely disagree with. It is an unhealthy way to live.

Perhaps you should cut out the beef in your diet and find a consistent supplier of high quality goat meat.

Suing is American. You tattoo BAdlAndZ in 20 point clown font on your neck and t bone a plastic toyota in a rented lambo than that law suit ensures you can't then destroy an old lady on her way to work the next time. It's got its tradeoffs (frivilous law suits) but Rice is now held in check as is every other dumbass diva wide receiver that wants to street race through random victims.

LOL

I haven't done 120 in a 70, in a supercar, on a crowded highway causing me to make "multiple aggressive maneuvers to get through traffic.”, in the middle of the city, then fled the scene of the accident,.

Can't say I have done that. But yeah Marcellus... Rice is just a kid that was doing a little bit of speeding, right!?! Boys will be boys... AMIRITE?!?!?!

Driving like an idiot, causing a major accident and walking away from the victims because he was likely on drugs or had something illegal he did not want found doesn't warrant giving him the benefit of the doubt in this situation. You can call him a crappy person for what he did that day.

Innocent until proven guilty does not apply to Rashee?

Damn, the Rashee-Haters continue to devolve towards a new level of crazy.

So Everett kills someone and gets 3 months house arrest and y'all are still thinking Rice faces prison time and some are suggesting we cut him loose still, eh?

Fascinating.

Yeah, and I basically did in one of my first posts in here. But as a person that made more than a couple mistakes at that age, I’d like to see what effect this has had, is he repentant, does he understand his responsibilities after this, etc.


I’m just not willing to presume final judgement of his character after a single bad day.

Apparently this is a terrible position to take in CP, lol.

AYYYYYYYYY!

I was born in Cali so that’s always been my song

You remind me of an experience I had at Arrowhead back in the day.

A buddy and I were watching Captain Wobble Launcher (Damon Huard) sucking out loud that day and we were giving him the business. Next to me were two lesbians. One of them got REALLY mad at me and lectured me that we shouldn't be talking shit but instead we were supposed to support and encourage the team.

As if he heard her scold me... Damon proceeds to throw a wounded duck 10 rows up into the stands to which I jump up and in a loud voice proclaimed... "IT'S OK HUARD! WE SUPPORT YOU!!!". Apparently that wasn't the correct response to shitty decision making by Huard and she yelled in my year and switched seats with her non-hereto partner.

So yeah... you remind me of a fat lesbian I had an interaction with once.

Commandos are likely thrilled that St-Juste was involved. That dude is one of the worst cover CBs I've ever watched. Should change his name to Benjamin St-Toast. Pro tip to load up on whatever WR he's matched up with in daily fantasy football.

Pretty sure that's a different instance. Everette killed his girlfriend while racing in the suburbs. St.Juice and Davis were a different car race.