The current sales tax is still in effect till 2031.

Hey man they were the ones asking ME for money. lol

Chargers, Rams, Seahawks, Bills, Jags Divisional

So I guess two years ago now technically was when I hit 5. Only was able to make it to the Chargers game last year.

A vast majority of the No votes want the teams and want a downtown stadium. You are really misreading this situation. There are people who do not want this at all they exist but they are not even close to being enough to get a no vote for a good plan.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The irony is that the Royals once told us to Trust The Process. But when it came time for a billion dollar stadium proposal, they approached it with the due diligence of a term paper you started at 1 am the night before it was due. There was no Process, so there was no Trust. <a href="https://t.co/KWfbU0SPlN">https://t.co/KWfbU0SPlN</a></p>&mdash; Rany Jazayerli (@jazayerli) <a href="https://twitter.com/jazayerli/status/1775365425590620185?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The World Cup is coming to Arrowhead in 2026 and there will be work that will go into that.

Chiefs do not want to leave and considering that the only counties around here that have ever supported any arenas or stadiums or places for a lot of people to gather is Jackson or Wyandotte when Carol Marinovich was Mayor.

There is no way the Chiefs ever go to Kansas. Mother****ers over there don't like coming up with new taxes and don't support collective shit that attracts people to their neighborhoods.

The first election on improving the stadiums was the 2004 Bi-State proposal.

To pass it had to get majority vote in Jackson County and two other counties out of Johnson, Wyandotte, Platte and Clay. None of those four had a majority vote.

So when Bi-State was defeated. The next proposal was the 3/8 cent Jackson County Tax and the NFL's promise of a Kansas City Super Bowl if the Rolling Roof was part of renovations.

I think there will always be at least a 3/8 or 1/4 cent tax in Jackson County for Arrowhead and the Chiefs even if the Royals found a deal somewhere else.

Kauffman Stadium is beautiful. Especially after the renovations. It does not seem like a place that should be replaced. The Royals problem is that they envied the St. Louis Cardinals setup and convinced themselves they needed that to make it. Royals should figure out the way to succeed without worrying about what the Cardinals finagled.

Kansas City: We are not giving our tax money we earned just because you ask for it

ChiefsCountry: Wow ok Communists

LMAO

Kansas ain't paying for shit. There is not going to be anything built over there unless you folks in Iowa want to pay for it.

Yeah I'm getting called a KC Tennant supporter lol you know me comrade!

Kroenke's Chiefs. I like it. We can keep the same logo.

If the Chiefs are only on the ballot it will pass in many other places, including where it is currently. Shoot would surprise me if they come back for .5 cent tax and it would pass without the Royals. Kansas would pass in a heartbeat...

Sorry, does rent bitcher sound better. LMAO

Dead ass wrong. Kansas would be tripping over themselves to roll out the red carpet to take the Chiefs from Missouri.

You do not know Kansas City suburbs dude. There will never be any vote on any Kansas ballot or in the Kansas legislature that equals build a stadium for an NFL or MLB team.

Yeah, and the Easter Bunny came over Sunday to sleep with your sister.

I live in Kansas and I don't want the Chiefs in Kansas. It will cause some fan loss. Now the Royals? Wont make any difference if they move to Kansas or not.

That area of Kansas is kind of ripe for development though


Ain't nothing happening around Arrowhead


Clark probably wants it in Kansas so he can get in and out from the airport easily, it's not like he lives there

I’ve seen people say they wouldn’t be fans anymore if the Chiefs moved to Kansas, but the question is why? Though I’m not really convinced I believe them. They would still be the Kansas City Chiefs.

If you don't hold on to the Border War you'll have to start examining your own life and choices and **** that let's hold on to the civil war baby!

Tight but you're still a butt****ing moron.

LOL Anybody who says that is just as fulla shit as John Sherman and Clark Hunt combined.

Do we trust the people who brought this plan forward to bring a better plan in the future?

KCMO undefeated sitting on its balls.

Just a mess all round. Royals constantly shifting on sites when East Village was sitting right there. Frank White being an ass missing and cancelling meetings to dig his heels in. Chiefs plan was basic as hell and rushed. Almost makes me think they wanted the divorce from the Royals.

I think Jackson County loses both teams now. Chiefs will go to Legends. Missouri gov may step in if they feel it's important to not lose two teams following the Rams. Royals however very much could go to Nashville, they don't have anywhere near the leverage the Chiefs do. I suspect they will flirt with Johnson County first though, could see them being intrigued by somewhere like Lenexa City Center, although I don't think an Atlanta Battery type project would be as successful in a smaller metro like KC, a market like this the team needs to be Downtown. Don't see Clay County saying yes as sloppy seconds after Jackson turned them down.

I'll still be a fan but **** Kansas.

The best part about the Chiefs moving to the legends area will be how easy it is for KU fans to get to the games. See you at Kansas Night be sure to bring your blue hat

I think the Royals will move downtown, as it should be, but I agree that now that it didn't pass as-was (woot), the Royals can clear-up many of the questions we all had and sweeten the pot for JACO residents too.

Or they can move.

King will just have to become a KU fan, too.

Omaha, Nebraska or Oklahoma City are both very real possibilities as the future home of the Chiefs. If those cities can pull enough funds to build a stadium, make no mistake the Hunts will move them there. Clark owns a soccer team in Dallas so this wouldn't be anything out of the ordinary for him. In the end, the Chiefs are a business and the team owner will treat that as such.
The city of Oakland was devastated when the Raiders left. Mark Davis couldn't give two shits. He treated the move to Vegas as a business, even though he spent most of his life in Oakland. Same for the Spanos.

Missouri and Kansas folk lose out from all this but Chiefs fans from other states will continue to support the team. It's a shitty undesirable situation but I've seen the script before. They would need to organize another ballot in the next couple of years with a more enticing plan by the team and the county in order to change the voters' minds.

Maybe the Chiefs will change their colors to Crimson and Blue when they move to Kansas?

The Chiefs also have a strong fanbase overseas. It seems very weird to think of a team in the middle of winning many championships but having an unstable home location. Similar to the Raiders of the 1970’s and 1980’s in Oakland and Los Angeles. And now they’re in Vegas.

Is there actually a likelihood that Clark moves the team out of the region entirely?? Surely it'd just be to another site in the KC metro area if anything?

The Chiefs core fanbase centers around Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma and Iowa. If you move the team to a different state other than those 5, you lose the team's authenticity, if that makes any sense. San Antonio is a terrible idea as it would compete with two other Texas teams. Utah can sort of work but not really.

It all boils down to what the other cities are offering. I don’t think you can rule out Oklahoma City. It’s 5 hours closer to the Hunt family’s home base in Dallas.

No voters are piles of shit. This city will be a lot worse without these teams. Boring as **** nowhere land.
Good job assholes.

Omaha? LMAO The KC metro is larger in population than the entire state of Nebraska

the idea we are even discussing these teams leaving is just insanity.

yeah great job saving that titty club everyone. it's a good thing you didn't extend that currently existing sales tax. i'm sure all those shitty roads and bridges or whatever will get fixed once the pro sports teams leave for larger markets.

This city is ****ing pathetic. You don't want to give the Royals a new stadium then fine. I get it, but to vote against the Chiefs is really really ****ing stupid. They have delivered and now you are telling them to get ****ed and go away. No city has sports teams and doesn't pay. But here we should have them for free. What ****ong world do you morons live in.

Gonna be wonderful for some of us to retire in 10 years and have no Mahomes and no baseball park but we have woemens soccer. How awsome.

You think Kansas will build a stadium? No likely

Like I said before the state of Missouri simply does not want success.

This 3/8th cent sales tax - is it a 3.75% tax on all goods sold in Jackson county or something? If someone can explain that'd be awesome. Just not familiar at all.

No clue LMAO

All I know is that KS is a bit more affluent than MO? And KC, KS already has SKC and the Speedway so in theory I suppose it could work. It wouldn't be uprooting the team and it's history like any other interstate move.

JFC.. Calm down.. It’s not a game day thread..Doubt they go anywhere but the metro area. KC or the Legends..

The fact we’re even having to discuss it is madness. The Chiefs had an extremely reasonable offer.

Man, you need to calm the **** down.

This plan was absurd on so many levels.

Both teams are funded through the rest of the decade, there's plenty of time to put actual detailed plans up for proposal.

I understand that The Chiefs were basically trying to give the Royals cover here, but they really ought to put their own proposal forward and not tie themselves to a doomed franchise (and the Royals ARE doomed -MLB is not the NFL).

Nobody is going anywhere, the voters against had various reasons for voting the new baseball stadium down, but an honest, detailed plan that's better would have a good chance of passing.

A Chiefs proposal for Arrowhead renovations would pass, no problem.

and The Royals did not, and it was all one bundle.

It was a bad deal. No details, no answers to questions, empty promises with nothing guaranteed, a bunch of bullshit.

You guys are all reacting emotionally and not logically.

AND-this was the first proposal. There will be others.

You don't just give The Royals the blessing to do whatever they want because you love The Chiefs.

Hell, you don't let The Chiefs just do whatever they want, either-but The Chiefs would not have put such a stupid new stadium proposal forward.

You guys are acting like they're going to play the 2024 season in Oklahoma City or something. Don't be absurd.

Nothing changes between now and 2031. There's plenty of time to get this together.

Why on earth would you have this vote in April and not November? Seems more sensical to have this on the ballot at a time when there is the greatest possible voter turnout...

The Royals are apt be in Nashville in a decade.

Baseball isn't football, but it is still a very viable product. Lot's of money to be made for everyone, to be honest.

This vote was short-sighted in my opinion, but Mo isn't passing any new taxes right now.

You don't wanna play, you lose your team. Las Vegas built is gonna build the A's a new stadium. Want to bet Nashville wouldn't build the Royals a new one.

I promise you, it's not about the tax. Nobody cares about a 3/8th cent tax.

It was 100% about the half-baked, ridiculous downtown baseball stadium plan that literally had nothing else in detail other than here's where we want to put it, now let us just do whatever we want. There were lots of promises, but they refused to put anything detailed in writing.

It was a bad plan. It was extortion. 'Give me what I want, or else'.

But The teams are funded through the end of the decade, and there was no reason to rush this through. It's a stupid plan.

Chiefs must really want the divorce to try to give them cover like this.

But neither team is going anywhere, not for years-and need not go anywhere at all.

Nobody wants that. The Royals need to get a better plan together. The Chiefs need to separate themselves from the doomed MLB franchise.

Sherman bungled this, badly.

You serious?

Kansas would write a blank check tomorrow. 80% of the sports betting tax revenue goes directly to bringing a professional sports team to Kansas.

The Chiefs aren’t leaving KC, but knowing Kansas will give whatever it takes is how Clark will get his way. Or just move there

Public shouldn't be funding Billionaire's new digs anyway.

Having lived in Nashville for 16 years I really don't see the Royals making that move. Atlanta, Cincinnati, and St. Louis would oppose that move.

TN does not use eminent domain as strongly as KS or MO as well. Also, the TN Tits are looking at wanting / needing a new stadium, and Nashville recently built a new stadium for the minor league baseball team so another new stadium may be fiscally unviable.

Finally, there's limited locations that Nashville metro can leverage for a new stadium. The Nashville metro infrastructure is already buckling, a new baseball and potential new football stadiums would break city infrastructure.

The funny thing about Nashville is they've apparently been going through the same thing...
https://tennesseelookout.com/2023/12...all-expansion/

Obviously, a team that's committed to moving there and isnjust using them as a bluff might change their attitude.

Yeah, this a nothing burger. They're not going anywhere.

This plan was stupid. All the voters said is- come back with a better plan and details.
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You can't be a true capitalist and expect a city to subsidize a multi-billion dollar enterprise.

I also feel the NFL should not have tax breaks as a trade organization.

There isn’t seven years to figure this out. There’s two tops. It’s like people think after seven years when the lease is up the Chiefs are just going to be sitting there homeless. By that point their new stadium will be ready to open in whatever new location they are going, which takes years to coordinate and build.

dude, you gotta relax.

This was not Jackson County telling The Chiefs they won't help finance the Arrowhead renovations.

This was Jackson County telling The Royals to get their shit together and come back with a better plan.

Nobody's going anywhere.

I'd just like to take this moment to thank you for calling me a pile of shit.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

🤣 aww Don't let him spoil your victory lap. You're excited. Stay happy.

I am pleased, but I'd like to be able to actually discuss the situation logically, like adults.

I suppose that's too much to ask. :D

Stadium Watch 2024 -Jackson County Residents: How Are You Voting?
 

I’m not disagreeing and certainly believe it’s possible neither moves counties. I’m disagreeing with the notion that they have seven years to figure this out. As I said, probably about two years, maybe three at the very top.

You stopped playing during the game and came back when it was over. You could have talked to these philestines the whole time. You are such a musician.

Phew, thank God the crossroads was saved, people flock from all over the country to visit there.

I don't expect any of you that are freaking out to listen or understand, but I feel like I ought to try.

This was not a rejection of The Chiefs stadium renovation plans. This was 100% a referendum on The Royals Crossroads stadium plan. It was rejected for a lot of reasons, and different people had different ones, but mostly it was a terrible plan. There was almost no detail whatsoever. There were promises spoken, but the team refused to put anything in writing.

The location was a big reason, and if you think this was all about saving a strip joint, you're clueless. If you think that area is a dilapidated and empty, you haven't been there in a very long time. It really is an economic success story driven almost entirely by independent small business. Some of which would get wiped out immediately by the footprint of the stadium, some of which would be priced out by the economics of the situation during or soon after.

They don't have to do it the way this very loose, very unstructured plan suggested.

You don't have to kill a good thing to build a new thing.

You can have both.

And you can put details in writing.

Without extortion.

This was a terrible mistake on Sherman's part. I think he thought The Chiefs would give him enough cover to just do whatever he wanted, and he was wrong.

You know, they actually DO.

The hotels are nearly always full, and for anyone that doesn't like chain restaurants and bars, and actually wants to get a taste of what KC is actually like that area is where they go.

I'm guessing you're in NY given your handle. You haven't been in this area in a long time if you think otherwise.

The Kansas Legislature approved the tax breaks for the Speedway. They definitely could offer a money bag to the Hunts.

I was busy. I work in production and it's been insane lately. And I spent plenty of time working against the proposal out in the world when I could do something.

Throw yourself into a puddle of homeless piss east coast trash

All of this!

And you cared so much about KC that you fled to the biggest hemorrhoid city you could think of

No, but that is reality. Deal in reality, it makes the conversation better.

Today is lierally "tomorrow"...where is the check?? Where is the site? Where are the feasibility studies?

Time will tell. Shit will smell.

As Patrick Mahomes said on the golf course in Lake Tahoe to the only Chargers fan on Earth after several Coors Lights. "I'll see it when I believe it."

The reality is you love the Royals so much that you forgot their magical seasons were actually 2014 and 2015.

I'm more concerned about Salt Lake City...there is so much money money and momentum there.

I can't remember which year I was born. I'm good with names though :doh!:

Very weird how it's almost always people from out of town telling people how we should vote and how areas theyve never even been to of the city are vaccant

People from outside of KC and/or those who fled from KC have a lot of opinions on what they would like KC to be and do.

The poll results are hilarious up top. Dead tie for Jackson county residents on a sports message board and an overwhelming yes for anybody from NYC, Chicago, Phoenix, STL, Tulsa, Springfield or wherever the **** they were from.

Don't you guys want to be like us?? Don't you want to be in the big city cool kids club?? Why do you even care about that part of the city? I did a drive by on google and that was a lot of research!!

Now they'll be quick to tell us how WE WILL NEVER BE BIG TIME, WE WILL NEVER BE IN THE CLUB AND WILL ALWAYS BE FLYOVER COUNTRY. Oh no! I wanted to be just like them