More bullshit claims that you won't back up.

I assumed you were white once. Nobody "chased you around" though you pathological liar.

"What is she?"

😂😂

I hope whatever trauma was inflicted on you wasn't sexual because that's the only way I'm letting you forget.

Whatever you say crazy woman.

Indeed.

Keep proving my point.

Also, if you think it is just about this thread you're wrong.

.

There is nothing for me to prove since you keep displaying it with each post.

I keep displaying my irrational thoughts by asking you to specify them?

What a ****ing reerun.

Alright, we’re gonna need y’all to wrap this up. It’s been going on for like two days now.

Tell that to penguinz who is obviously incapable of answering simple questions or supporting any of his claims.

Should they get a room?

*slowly backs out of thread*

There is nothing to answer as you prove my point with each post of yours in this thread.

Go ahead and reply again. Release those emotions!

Assume all of these prospects were entering the 2024 draft. How would you rank them?

How I had them as prospects?

1. Luck
2. Burrow
3. Caleb
4. Lawrence
5. Murray
6. Young

Luck is in a class of his own as a prospect. Burrow and Caleb are very close for me. Lawrence and Murray I didn't love, but they were worthy of being #1 overall QBs. I preferred Stroud AND Richardson to Young.

This isn't a football thread where we talk about draft prospects. I'm not sure where that thread is but it's certainly not here. You'll need to look elsewhere for discussion.

Pretty much my list. Except I’d put Young at like 14 because I don’t think he’s a good QB.

Yea I don't think he belongs in the same convo as any of those guys.

Yep, purely as prospects.

I ask because someone had posted this pic on Facebook with the caption that Caleb Williams would still go #1 overall if they were all entering the 2024 draft.

I don’t follow college ball but that didn’t sound right to me at all. It’s my understanding that Andrew Luck was basically the best prospect since Peyton Manning and then Elway before him.

Heh, figured this was as good a shot as any to get back to football!

I was wondering why they included Young. Figured they were probably just including #1 overall picks from recent times but then realized they didn’t include Jameis Winston, Jared Goff or Baker Mayfield.

I think this pic would have been more difficult to rank if they’d swapped Young with someone like Cam Newton.

Why Burrow over Lawrence?

Based on what I hear, they both had pretty similar college careers but in reverse. Burrow started slow then ended with possibly the best college QB season ever, while Lawrence started off hot then fizzled out as he got closer to his draft year.

Yea, that's horseshit. I can maybe see him going over Burrow, but Burrow was coming off a NC, and that probably gives him the edge when you're splitting hairs for me.

I just never liked Lawrence as a prospect.

I was never a huge believer in Lawrence. Felt like he was overrated and all the "generational prospect" talk was silly. Argued with many on here about it.

So if you replaced Young with Cam Newton, where would he rank?

For me….probably at 3.

4th.

Beat me to it. That's the exact order I had. Luck was generational and lived up to it. If his GM cared enough to actually get him a solid OLine he would have been a HOF QB.

I would put him at #3.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This, from USC QB Caleb Williams, has to be music to <a href="https://twitter.com/ChicagoBears?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ChicagoBears</a> fans&#39; ears: &quot;I want to play at one place for 20 years, and chase one guy—No. 12. I want a place that loves ball. That&#39;s all I&#39;ve heard about Chicago so far.&quot; <a href="https://t.co/AX105HzzYd">https://t.co/AX105HzzYd</a></p>&mdash; Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1781430032168001882?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 19, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

12? You better worry about 15 gay boy!

#2. He literally carried that Auburn team and its dumb ass coach to a national title.

Didn't see that from the other QB's on that list, although Burrow was damn good.

You're gonna have to chase 15, not 12.

Only 5 days until Packers fans call him Gaylib of the North. Spend it unwisely

I was leaning this way as well. Cam was insane as a prospect and I think I definitely have a tendency to fall in love with measurables.

When top QB prospects end up being complete busts, it’s usually because they go to a very bad situation. That won’t be the case with Williams and Chicago. They were really smart to trade the number one pick last year and build their team. And they’ve done a great job in free agency this year.

Assuming the draft the best available WR at 9 Williams will have top-tier receivers. i’ve always thought Swift was a very good RB. They have a pretty good OL, and a decent defense.

I think the division will be tough. Green Bay looks like they are going to be a top team with love. Detroit will probably face San Francisco again to get a chance to lose to us in the Super Bowl. Assuming Minnesota can get McCaffrey. They will also be a very good team. So it will be a real challenge if Williams can get Chicago into the playoffs and if he does, I think he will have to have a Stroud it type of year. I don’t think he’s going to be that exceptional, but with the cast around him, it’s highly unlikely he will be a bust.

I actually think it will.

He'll only see 15 in meaningless regular season games or the Super Bowl.

If Williams get them to the Super Bowl, he certainly won't be a bust.

I've been pretty hard on the douche for awhile now, but he doesn't deserve criticism for this one.

Caleb Pioli wasn’t necessarily something I would have predicted. I kind of like it though.

"First thing he said was, 'Hey, man, we're all grown men here, right?'" Byard said. "He was like 'We're getting a little too sloppy. We're leaving water bottles, towels and all types of things around. Custodians have a lot of square footage that they have to cover in this whole building. Let's try to help them out by cleaning up after ourselves.' ... When you want to be a great player, you always focus on the little details—not even just the details of the play, but the details of everything around you."

https://www.si.com/nfl/caleb-william...r-room-conduct

Assuming he's having a decent camp because this thread took this long to get bumped.

The first part of the quote telling guys to clean up after themselves: Sure. I like it. Has nothing to do with determining his career success, but it does help a tiny bit to push back at the unfair narrative that he was all diva and not a person able to lead a locker room.

The second part about "it's the little details" screams Russell Wilson bullshit, and I hope this is just a rough summary from Byard of what Caleb actually said and not the exact words.

I'm sure the tenth-year linemen appreciated this guidance.

I see nothing wrong with any of this.

Key point though- This attitude only works if you perform well at the actual job of playing football. If not you look like a brown nosing clown.

Everyone hates a new employee who acts like they've been there for years, no matter how good they are at their job.

Yeah, it’s either the guy has mad respect for everyone all the way down to the cleanup crew. Good. But given the guys reputation it feels more like grandstanding, trying too hard or thinking he’s better than his veterans.

Caleb is truly leading by example.

He always puts his fingernail polish bottles and his dresses neatly into his locker before he leaves the facility each day.

Unless you acknowledge that your workplace needs a turn around.

If he wants to be the modern day Joe Namath go for it. Maybe he'll bring panty hoes back in favor for the wamens.

It's the Mahomes comparisons I think are stupid. Strong armed QB's that can run are a dime a dozen in College. It's what's between Pat's ears that makes him the greatest QB to ever play...

That speech seems douchey coming from a rookie. You need wins under your belt before you start with that shit.

Watching the Bears preseason game from yesterday. Caleb has made a few throws that helped me better understand some of the Mahomes comparisons, not having watched much of him in college. Improvisational, extends plays, and great arm strength when off platform. I know this isn't ground-breaking but it's against NFL players. Looks very comfortable.

I have to admit he looked impressive.

From what I saw...I agree.

He was creating plays in his first pre-season game...like Mahomes did. That's what you want to see..

Watching now and he does look pretty good.

This thread is destined to look foolish.

Just because someone is unlikeable doesn't mean they suck.

But he wore nail polish!!

MiamiSuperfan88 said he’d end up like Mark Sanchez. That basically guaranteed his success.

He clearly has a vibe that’s different and not remotely as likeable as Mahomes. But by all accounts he’s a student of the game, a very hard worker, and his teammates love him.

Talent alone isn't enough to take you to the promise land.
Will this kid one day become a leader of men? It sure ain't looking that way for as long as he keeps polishing his nails and talks and dresses in an effeminate manner.
Does he have that killer instinct? Rodgers has been an outwordly talent in the league for two decades now but what good is that when you have the killer instinct of a domesticated cat.
This kid seems mentally soft to me. A few highlight plays from preseason aren't changing my mind.

This has to be a Top 10 "Old Person" post in ChiefsPlanet history.

None of what you said in the bolded part will matter if he wins.

I saw the game too. Firstly he was up against a banged up Bills defense missing key players at all three levels. Edwards, Milano, Von Miller. Then Addison left after one play.

Caleb had one dump off that went for a lot of yards. And another throw on the sidelines when he ran to his right. He also scrambled for a first down. He looked decent but almost threw an interception and was stopped twice in the redzone.

I remember Zach Wilson having sparkling performances in his preseason games as a rookie too. One was in green bay.

These games won't prove anything imo. When he faces number one defenses and DC's that will have top game plans then we'll see how he goes.

Maybe they'll bring on Kyle Orton to teach him how smoke a cigarette and drink whiskey from the bottle. Cutler tried

It's not his stats. It's the plays he was making. The guy looks more like Mahomes than anyone in the league.

He does resemble him a bit...but Mahomes has that killer/ice in his veins temperament that cant be taught.

I hope he does well for Chicago...they've never had a decent QB in my entire lifetime.

Folks were saying Wilson looked like Rogers after he beat Green Bay. One or two of Caleb's throws were cool but his main issue has been staying in the pocket and making those basic throws. The time he tried to do that was when he should have been intercepted (the ball went straight to the defender's hands).

If this is true, and he has the mental toughness to grind, he'll be good. He's a high enough pick they'll give him some run if he has injuries.

Which, ****ing good. It would be good if the NFC could get someone ANYONE to play good QB in their division instead of ours, that'd be greeeeeeeat.

He made some good throws on Saturday. Too early to say anything about how he'll fare in the NFL though. However, he has a good ability to make throws outside of the pocket, which is very Mahomes-esque.

Yep.

I do see where the hype is coming from talent wise, but I still don’t think he’ll be mentally tough enough to ever be at the same level as Mahomes. Call me a hater all you want, but any QB who climbs into the stands to cry on his mom’s lap after a tough loss isn’t a mentally strong individual and damn sure isn’t an alpha, which I do believe a QB must be in order to be great.

He could be very good, but we’ll find out what he’s made of once he’s down 24 points in a playoff game or facing a team like 49ers on the road in a big time game. That’s where he’ll make or break himself. Personally, I think he’ll fold like origami, but we’ll see.

Good thing "alpha" is made up bullshit from couch potatoes

Can you find someone who has actually said he'll be as good as Mahomes?

There's a wide gulf between being a bust and being "as good as Mahomes."

Just because some talking heads threw it out there as a discussion point doesn't mean it's a hot take when you say you don't think he'll reach that level. None of us do.

I'll take something a beta would say for $1,000, Alex.

lmao okay bud. If you type it loud enough people won't know how small your penis is.


Not his nails! How will he be a leader of men?? Sit down.

It was a joke, man. I'll bet you are a lot of fun at parties.

I certainly hope he sucks ass but I can’t talk shit on anything I saw from his first preseason game

Fair enough

I'm not a lot of fun at parties anymore, to be completely candid

I'm a freaking blast until about 9:00 p.m. and then I'm looking for an exit strategy. :D

I'm definitely not saying anyone here is implying that, like you said, that's just talking head stuff. Didn't think it was a hot take, just expressing my thoughts after seeing him play his first NFL game. I do see where the comparisons are coming from with the little no-look pass and the ability to throw on the run and improvise.

He has too much talent and too many weapons around him to be a total bust, but I think the term is sort of redefined a little for him, because anything less than a Mahomes level rise is going to be considered a bust by some people just because of all the hype he's received. That's all I was saying.

You guys are being awful mean to a guy who is obviously a closet homosexual.

Are people sending you mean DMs?

I would think you all would show more empathy for an obvious homosexual finally playing quarterback. This will help grow the sport.

It sure has helped grow Chiefsplanet as I'm sure that was a big factor in your signing up here :D

wazus joke was better

brevity is the soul of wit