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DJ's left nut 09-19-2023 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17119822)
God I can't wait for Omenihu.

It's like Thanos getting the final infinity stone.

With two edges that can threaten the back of a drop and two interior rushers that can put the IOL in a real catch-22, things will get awfully nasty awfully fast.

And this secondary looks more than capable of giving them the time they need to get home.

Hammock Parties 09-19-2023 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17119938)
With two edges that can threaten the back of a drop and two interior rushers that can put DTs in a real catch-22, things will get awfully nasty awfully fast.

And this secondary looks more than capable of giving them the time they need to get home.

No one is gonna enjoy this more than Patrick.

I bet he has at least one game this season with less than 25 passing attempts.

staylor26 09-19-2023 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17119938)
With two edges that can threaten the back of a drop and two interior rushers that can put DTs in a real catch-22, things will get awfully nasty awfully fast.

And this secondary looks more than capable of giving them the time they need to get home.

On one hand, this post give me wood.

On the other, you ****ing too? :cuss:

RunKC 09-19-2023 08:57 PM

Right now we don't even need Omenihu. He's an added bonus bc Danna is really playing his ass off this year.

God we're 5 deep at DL and Spags is even having Chenal power rush tackles on 2nd down just bc he ****ing can.

Get the offense fixed bc if we can do that we may go 15-2.

DJ's left nut 09-19-2023 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17119942)
No one is gonna enjoy this more than Patrick.

I bet he has at least one game this season with less than 25 passing attempts.

And the narrative will shift from 'he piles up stats in shootouts because his defense sucks' to 'he's along for the ride because his defense is amazing...'

Because somehow there's always something to bitch about for the usual suspects.

Kman34 09-19-2023 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17119949)
And the narrative will shift from 'he piles up stats in shootouts because his defense sucks' to 'he's along for the ride because his defense is amazing...'

Because somehow there's always something to bitch about for the usual suspects.

Ok.. now im getting confused...:hmmm:

KCUnited 09-19-2023 09:18 PM

Smart to have a staylor backup in case he gets trapped again

For real though, congrats on making it homie

BryanBusby 09-19-2023 10:18 PM

LMAO y'all are killin me

Hammock Parties 09-19-2023 10:25 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Through two weeks, 2023 first rounder Felix Anudike-Uzomah has 4 pressures (tied for 3rd on the Chiefs) on 28 pass rush snaps.<br><br>That’s a pressure rate of 14.3%, second best on the team, only behind Chris Jones.</p>&mdash; Zack Eisen (@zackeisen21) <a href="https://twitter.com/zackeisen21/status/1704203685805576646?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 19, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BWillie 09-19-2023 10:31 PM

Jared Allen

Chiefshrink 09-19-2023 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17119948)
Right now we don't even need Omenihu.

I get your point but I wouldn't go that far.

Chiefshrink 09-19-2023 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17120030)
Jared Allen

Stats yes ! Hopefully he can produce like Allen did, but these guys are totally different type of DE's. Max Crosby is the modern day Jared Allen IMO. BTW both picked in the 4th rd.

ThaVirus 09-20-2023 06:39 AM

LMAO LMAO LMAO Now we’ve got Detox, Raiderhader and DJ!

I am ****ing weak!

ThaVirus 09-20-2023 06:41 AM

Me and the boys pulling up to CP to annoy Staylor

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The Franchise 09-20-2023 09:14 AM

What's up guys?

Hammock Parties 09-20-2023 09:20 AM

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ToxSocks 09-20-2023 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17120263)
What's up guys?

We are legion.

ThaVirus 09-20-2023 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17120263)
What's up guys?

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 17120324)
We are legion.

Just a couple of huge Sean Taylor fans on a Chiefs message board. Nothing to see here.

CasselGotPeedOn 09-20-2023 10:58 AM

Wtf is going on in here?

ToxSocks 09-20-2023 11:02 AM

I feel like the mods are up to no good again.....something fishy is up here.

Raiderhater 09-20-2023 11:38 AM

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OKchiefs 11-03-2023 09:12 AM

We're approaching the point in the season last year in which Karlaftis started to make an impact on defense. FAU isn't getting as many snaps as what Karlaftis had last year and we have better depth at DE now, but I'm wondering what everyone's thoughts are as to whether Felix will start to get worked more into the defense and get more snaps at some point soon?

crispystl 11-03-2023 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 17205641)
We're approaching the point in the season last year in which Karlaftis started to make an impact on defense. FAU isn't getting as many snaps as what Karlaftis had last year and we have better depth at DE now, but I'm wondering what everyone's thoughts are as to whether Felix will start to get worked more into the defense and get more snaps at some point soon?

From the eye test Felix looks like a much more naturally talented pass rusher than Karlaftis, so we'll see. It's become very apparent though that Karlaftis is a just a good football player altogether. We'll see if FAU is, but I'm not worred about him at all.

RunKC 11-03-2023 09:30 AM

He was getting around 25% of the snaps until Omenihu came back. Now he's getting half as many snaps. Also noticed a lot of those came at the end of games.

He's got 3 veteran studs in front of him and Chris Jones also plays DE at times. Danna, Karlaftis and Jones are all on pace for 10+ sacks and Omenihu already has 1.5 in only 2 games back and I think he would get at least 8 in a full season here.

This is the best DL we've had in a long time so I don't really fault FAU. It sounds like they've redshirted him so far and the plan is for him to take over for Danna next year bc that guy is gonna get paid.

staylor26 11-03-2023 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 17205641)
We're approaching the point in the season last year in which Karlaftis started to make an impact on defense. FAU isn't getting as many snaps as what Karlaftis had last year and we have better depth at DE now, but I'm wondering what everyone's thoughts are as to whether Felix will start to get worked more into the defense and get more snaps at some point soon?

Karlaftis was playing with a couple of old vets and Danna wasn't healthy.

It's just a much difference situation with Karlaftis, Omenihu, and Danna in front of him, so hard to know what to expect in terms of playing time.

suzzer99 11-03-2023 09:46 AM

He's also 21 years old. A lot of room for development.

Wisconsin_Chief 11-03-2023 10:03 AM

Dude will be fine, bet he beasts next year with Danna and Jones gone.

OKchiefs 11-03-2023 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17205693)
Dude will be fine, bet he beasts next year with Danna and Jones gone.

I agree, just hope we see some shred of evidence soon to see some hope for potential into next year.

I think in a game like we saw this past week against Denver where the offense isn't getting it done and the defense may start to get gassed it would be a good situation for FAU to come off the bench as a fresh set of legs and a head full of steam. He's not an every down DE yet but I think he has value as a pass rush specialist at this point, just needs to get the reps.

smithandrew051 11-03-2023 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17205693)
Dude will be fine, bet he beasts next year with Danna and Jones gone.

I really wonder how much Danna will cost. I’d be all for a situation where we bring Danna back at a reasonable number and move on from Jones.

We could have 4 big time pass rushers who are all in good contracts in Omenihu, Karlaftis, Danna, and FAU.

That would create a ton of flexibility to address other needs.

Problem is Danna seems to be playing himself out of what he could pay him.

Good for him though.

BigCatDaddy 11-03-2023 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17205753)
I really wonder how much Danna will cost. I’d be all for a situation where we bring Danna back at a reasonable number and move on from Jones.

We could have 4 big time pass rushers who are all in good contracts in Omenihu, Karlaftis, Danna, and FAU.

That would create a ton of flexibility to address other needs.

Problem is Danna seems to be playing himself out of what he could pay him.

Good for him though.

I would guess 3 for 20-25 is about where he ends up at.

smithandrew051 11-03-2023 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 17205781)
I would guess 3 for 20-25 is about where he ends up at.

Carl Granderson just got 4/52. That’s what I was guessing.

Gary Cooper 11-03-2023 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 17205667)
He's also 21 years old. A lot of room for development.

He's also from Lee's Summit, so there's very little hope for him in general.

Dunerdr 11-03-2023 12:18 PM

He's in a perfect situation for a guy who was used kind of awkwardly in college. Studs in front of him, no pressure. Just take it in man.

suzzer99 11-03-2023 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17205833)
He's also from Lee's Summit, so there's very little hope for him in general.

As a Blue Springs graduate, I have to agree. Let's hope he left the Scummit behind when he went to college.

BossChief 11-03-2023 08:46 PM

Pretty awesome that our pass rush has been effective as it has without ever using our first round pick DE almost at all.

RunKC 11-06-2023 08:07 AM

Remember Will McDonald? Folks here were so high on him during draft season.

Yeah he's been a healthy scratch multiple times and has barely gotten on the field. 67 snaps to FAU's 122.

Did I mention that Felix is only 21 while McDonald is 24?

O.city 11-06-2023 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17212869)
Remember Will McDonald? Folks here were so high on him during draft season.

Yeah he's been a healthy scratch multiple times and has barely gotten on the field. 67 snaps to FAU's 122.

Did I mention that Felix is only 21 while McDonald is 24?

Eh, he's also behind a pretty good group

xztop123 11-06-2023 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17205654)
He was getting around 25% of the snaps until Omenihu came back. Now he's getting half as many snaps. Also noticed a lot of those came at the end of games.

He's got 3 veteran studs in front of him and Chris Jones also plays DE at times. Danna, Karlaftis and Jones are all on pace for 10+ sacks and Omenihu already has 1.5 in only 2 games back and I think he would get at least 8 in a full season here.

This is the best DL we've had in a long time so I don't really fault FAU. It sounds like they've redshirted him so far and the plan is for him to take over for Danna next year bc that guy is gonna get paid.

Should have spent that draft pick on a wr. Rather than a 12.5 % snap count rotational defensive end.

chiefzilla1501 11-06-2023 08:18 AM

Sorry *ducks for cover*....

I like what we've seen from him so far. But standing my ground that if there was ever a draft where we could have pivoted to offense this was the one. sam laporta and rashee would've been a hell of a 1-2. This draft was loaded with really great TEs who could've made us extra dangerous I'm 12 and 13 personnel

O.city 11-06-2023 08:21 AM

Maybe.

Eleazar 11-06-2023 08:24 AM

Was Felix Speaks even active yesterday? :Poke: :fire:

Grim 11-06-2023 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 17212899)
Was Felix Speaks even active yesterday? :Poke: :fire:

he was active for 4 snaps

O.city 11-06-2023 08:28 AM

FAU seems to be one of those forward looking picks. I would have rather had an immediate contributor for sure, but you can essentially get that for the next 4 years if he develops as hoped.

BigRedChief 11-06-2023 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17212904)
FAU seems to be one of those forward looking picks. I would have rather had an immediate contributor for sure, but you can essentially get that for the next 4 years if he develops as hoped.

We have what many be the best defense we have ever had since the DT era. We have the luxury to let him develop this year.

Next year it seems like the writing is on the wall. we are losing Jones and Sneed. Whatever we get in return for Jones will be used to move up to get a quality WR.

Lzen 11-06-2023 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17212907)
We have what many be the best defense we have ever had since the DT era. We have the luxury to let him develop this year.

Next year it seems like the writing is on the wall. we are losing Jones and Sneed. Whatever we get in return for Jones will be used to move up to get a quality WR.

You don't know that. We may get another DT. Or a CB.

LoneWolf 11-06-2023 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17212907)
We have what many be the best defense we have ever had since the DT era. We have the luxury to let him develop this year.

Next year it seems like the writing is on the wall. we are losing Jones and Sneed. Whatever we get in return for Jones will be used to move up to get a quality WR.

If you lose Jones, there is no reason to lose Sneed. Did you not watch him against Tyreek yesterday? There's absolutely no reason to lose both Jones and Sneed.

BigRedChief 11-06-2023 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 17212911)
If you lose Jones, there is no reason to lose Sneed. Did you not watch him against Tyreek yesterday? There's absolutely no reason to lose both Jones and Sneed.

No one is saying, at least on here that they suck. They are killers but sure there is a reason.....Bolton, Sneed and Smith are also up. The defense is elite now. The offense needs help. What do you think Veach is going to do? Let those offensive guys go that block for Mahomes? Leader of the defense? It's just math.

O.city 11-06-2023 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17212915)
No one is saying, at least on here that they suck. They are killers but sure there is a reason.....Bolton, Sneed and Smith are also up. The defense is elite now. The offense needs help. What do you think Veach is going to do? Let those offensive guys go that block for Mahomes? Leader of the defense? It's just math.

Let Smith walk.

Easier to find a RG than an elite CB.

I'd tag and trade Jones and I'd imagine they'll lose Sneed at this point as much as I'd like to keep him around.

O.city 11-06-2023 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 17212911)
If you lose Jones, there is no reason to lose Sneed. Did you not watch him against Tyreek yesterday? There's absolutely no reason to lose both Jones and Sneed.

They'll probably have to tag and trade Jones, so Sneed will hit the market unencumbered.

BigRedChief 11-06-2023 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17212909)
You don't know that. We may get another DT. Or a CB.

No one knows for sure probably not even Veach or Reid. Lots needs to be played out before spring 2024.

OKchiefs 11-06-2023 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 17212886)
Should have spent that draft pick on a wr. Rather than a 12.5 % snap count rotational defensive end.

Maybe if they could have traded up but nobody was available where they picked that was worth it at WR.

RunKC 11-06-2023 08:47 AM

I think Bolton and Creed will definitely be paid. Not so sure about Sneed. He's the wildcard bc they've been so good at drafting/developing corners. Tranquil could definitely be kept for 2 more years before we really start paying Bolton.

I would imagine they take a 1st rd WR and a corner with the Chris Jones draft pick return while drafting another IDL at some point of the draft.

JPH83 11-06-2023 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17212888)
Sorry *ducks for cover*....

I like what we've seen from him so far. But standing my ground that if there was ever a draft where we could have pivoted to offense this was the one. sam laporta and rashee would've been a hell of a 1-2. This draft was loaded with really great TEs who could've made us extra dangerous I'm 12 and 13 personnel

I liked the pick so I can't grumble, partly because last year tricked me into thinking Mahomes alone could make any WR group work. Hindsight is 20/20, but yeah, another offensive weapon like La Porta would've been nice.

Shame not to have gotten a top TE from a loaded group last year, on the other hand we need a WR and this year's crop looks very good.

OKchiefs 11-06-2023 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 17212911)
If you lose Jones, there is no reason to lose Sneed. Did you not watch him against Tyreek yesterday? There's absolutely no reason to lose both Jones and Sneed.

If they spend the money on a FA WR then there is plenty of reason.

JPH83 11-06-2023 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17212925)
I think Bolton and Creed will definitely be paid. Not so sure about Sneed. He's the wildcard bc they've been so good at drafting/developing corners. Tranquil could definitely be kept for 2 more years before we really start paying Bolton.

I would imagine they take a 1st rd WR and a corner with the Chris Jones draft pick return while drafting another IDL at some point of the draft.

What about LT? I still think it's OT and WR first 2 picks. Maybe CB and DT after that.

BigRedChief 11-06-2023 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17212917)
Let Smith walk.

Easier to find a RG than an elite CB.

I'd tag and trade Jones and I'd imagine they'll lose Sneed at this point as much as I'd like to keep him around.

Its not apples to apples. Smith and Sneed are not making the same money next year and into the future.

Getting scrub OL would be a huge mistake. Need to protect the money maker. We all saw a wasted SB appearance due to Mahomes running for his life.

Sofa King 11-06-2023 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 17212886)
Should have spent that draft pick on a wr. Rather than a 12.5 % snap count rotational defensive end.

The only two that went after him were Mingo and Reed. After that was Rice. Mingo is doing shit and Reed has worse stats than Rice.

This is a lazy argument from you.

OKchiefs 11-06-2023 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17212925)
I think Bolton and Creed will definitely be paid. Not so sure about Sneed. He's the wildcard bc they've been so good at drafting/developing corners. Tranquil could definitely be kept for 2 more years before we really start paying Bolton.

I would imagine they take a 1st rd WR and a corner with the Chris Jones draft pick return while drafting another IDL at some point of the draft.

If they trade CJ I think DT needs to be almost as high a priority as WR though. We going to start Farrell and Dickerson at DT? That position is looking ugly next year and I’m to sure the DEs are good enough without the attention Jones draws to get pressure on their own.

O.city 11-06-2023 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17212931)
Its not apples to apples. Smith and Sneed are not making the same money next year and into the future.

Getting scrub OL would be a huge mistake. Need to protect the money maker. We all saw a wasted SB appearance due to Mahomes running for his life.

He won a SB with a street FA at G.

So no, you can find good guards in the mid/late rounds for cheap. They're paying the LG alot, paying the RT alot, and are probably gonna pay the C alot.

They're gonna have to go pay for some weapons too

O.city 11-06-2023 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 17212935)
If they trade CJ I think DT needs to be almost as high a priority as WR though. We going to start Farrell and Dickerson at DT? That position is looking ugly next year and I’m to sure the DEs are good enough without the attention Jones draws to get pressure on their own.

It goes back to the Tyreek thing. You aren't gonna replace Tyreek, so don't really try to force it.

You won't replace Jones, so go a different direction and don't force it. I kinda think it's why they were interested in the Washington DE's.

Sofa King 11-06-2023 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17212936)
He won a SB with a street FA at G.

So no, you can find good guards in the mid/late rounds for cheap. They're paying the LG alot, paying the RT alot, and are probably gonna pay the C alot.

They're gonna have to go pay for some weapons too

And we got blown out with street G's in another SB.... sooooo

OKchiefs 11-06-2023 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17212931)
Its not apples to apples. Smith and Sneed are not making the same money next year and into the future.

Getting scrub OL would be a huge mistake. Need to protect the money maker. We all saw a wasted SB appearance due to Mahomes running for his life.

Taylor and Thuney combined are making nearly 25% of our cap the next 2 years. That’s a lot of money on an OL that can’t run block at all, extensions to Creed and/or Trey could push the cap commitment on OL to nearly 40% of the cap. Not sure that’s a wise allocation of resources, particularly when we’re seeing that it doesn’t matter if they can hold blocks for upwards of 5 seconds if Mahomes still can’t find open receivers.

LoneWolf 11-06-2023 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17212918)
They'll probably have to tag and trade Jones, so Sneed will hit the market unencumbered.

Why? If they know their plan is to tag and trade Jones, then you get a deal done with Sneed before free agency starts.

O.city 11-06-2023 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 17212944)
And we got blown out with street G's in another SB.... sooooo

Well, if we lose both Tackles right before the game, yeah that would suck.

O.city 11-06-2023 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 17212948)
Why? If they know their plan is to tag and trade Jones, then you get a deal done with Sneed before free agency starts.

Why would he wanna sign a deal when he could get into free agency and let the bidding start?

O.city 11-06-2023 08:57 AM

The time to sign Sneed if you wanted to keep him was this past offseason.

He's too close to FA to sign now, he'll wanna get multiple teams bidding on his services.

OKchiefs 11-06-2023 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 17212944)
And we got blown out with street G's in another SB.... sooooo

Yeah, because the tackles were Remmers and Wylie.

tredadda 11-06-2023 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 17212948)
Why? If they know their plan is to tag and trade Jones, then you get a deal done with Sneed before free agency starts.

I don’t think KCs gonna be able to tag and trade Jones. Sneed they could, Jones I don’t see.

BigRedChief 11-06-2023 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 17212947)
Taylor and Thuney combined are making nearly 25% of our cap the next 2 years. That’s a lot of money on an OL that can’t run block at all, extensions to Creed and/or Trey could push the cap commitment on OL to nearly 40% of the cap. Not sure that’s a wise allocation of resources, particularly when we’re seeing that it doesn’t matter if they can hold blocks for upwards of 5 seconds if Mahomes still can’t find open receivers.

Thats going to decide the next version of the Mahomes era. I think Veach will play it safe and protect the moneymaker. He is now and will be next year the highest paid player in the league. No more discount anymore for other players.

Sure seems Veach is following a version of the Billicheck/Brady model:

Elite QB
Great O-Line
Good defense
JAG's at WR and RB's
Don't give players past 30 new contracts

Lzen 11-06-2023 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17212936)
He won a SB with a street FA at G.

So no, you can find good guards in the mid/late rounds for cheap. They're paying the LG alot, paying the RT alot, and are probably gonna pay the C alot.

They're gonna have to go pay for some weapons too

How long do you suppose they will keep paying Thuney? I would imagine his time here will be coming to an end soon due to his high salary.

staylor26 11-06-2023 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17212888)
Sorry *ducks for cover*....

I like what we've seen from him so far. But standing my ground that if there was ever a draft where we could have pivoted to offense this was the one. sam laporta and rashee would've been a hell of a 1-2. This draft was loaded with really great TEs who could've made us extra dangerous I'm 12 and 13 personnel

LMAO

Do you have a post from before the draft banging the table for LaPorta Captain Hindsight?

Because this is the ultimate revisionist history. Not a single ****ing person had LaPorta as a 1st rounder.

-King- 11-06-2023 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17212967)
How long do you suppose they will keep paying Thuney? I would imagine his time here will be coming to an end soon due to his high salary.

Kind of have to keep him for his whole contract. The restructures on his contract have made it that way. Doubt they'd want to take a 21mil dead cap hit in 2024 or 10mil in 2025 to cut him. He's still a great guard so just have to take his 26mil cap hits the next 2 years.

O.city 11-06-2023 09:21 AM

I really like LaPorta but I also think Gray is a good 2nd TE and would be better with no Kelce in front of him so I'm good with that.

OKchiefs 11-06-2023 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17212964)
Thats going to decide the next version of the Mahomes era. I think Veach will play it safe and protect the moneymaker. He is now and will be next year the highest paid player in the league. No more discount anymore for other players.

Sure seems Veach is following a version of the Billicheck/Brady model:

Elite QB
Great O-Line
Good defense
JAG's at WR and RB's
Don't give players past 30 new contracts

The Belichick model worked in part because they were willing to play smash mouth football, run the football, and convert in short yardage. Brady also rarely turned the ball over.

KC refuses to run the football consistently and are one of the worst teams in the league in short yardage. The JAG receivers are forcing Mahomes into making mistakes and turning the ball over 1-2 times a game. The Belichick model won’t work in KC. Also, that model worked in part because Tom Brady was generally not the highest paid QB. Trying to replicate that model here is a recipe for disaster.

I mean, we’re seeing the results now of what the offense looks like with JAG weapons and it isn’t pretty, even with Kelce.

RunKC 11-06-2023 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17212931)
Its not apples to apples. Smith and Sneed are not making the same money next year and into the future.

Getting scrub OL would be a huge mistake. Need to protect the money maker. We all saw a wasted SB appearance due to Mahomes running for his life.

I think they're gonna use a 2nd rd pick to replace one of the Guards in the 2025 draft.

staylor26 11-06-2023 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 17212985)
The Belichick model worked in part because they were willing to play smash mouth football, run the football, and convert in short yardage. Brady also rarely turned the ball over.

KC refuses to run the football consistently and are one of the worst teams in the league in short yardage. The JAG receivers are forcing Mahomes into making mistakes and turning the ball over 1-2 times a game. The Belichick model won’t work in KC.Also, that model worked in part because Tom Brady was generally not the highest paid QB. Trying to replicate that model here is a recipe for disaster.

I mean, we’re seeing the results now of what the offense looks like with JAG weapons and it isn’t pretty, even with Kelce.

Based on what dipshit? Won a SB last year with that formula, and are currently sitting with the 1st seed. You got a crystal ball shoved up your ****ing ass like TEX?

O.city 11-06-2023 09:32 AM

When you're QB is making what he's making, he's gonna have to play to that level with some cheap players somewhere around him. If he needs weapons, OL, a defense etc well then.....you've got a bigger issue.

We won a SB last year because Pat had the best season a QB has ever had. We under appreciated just how good he was last year. It was a level he probably can't duplicate again, no slight to him.

He's been good this year, but this is what you get when you have him play just good. We're paying for face melting elite.

O.city 11-06-2023 09:33 AM

Just go back to spending everything you've got on the offense. Some would rather win games 45-43 I guess, so **** it.

OKchiefs 11-06-2023 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17212991)
Based on what dipshit? Won a SB last year with that formula, and are currently sitting with the 1st seed. You got a crystal ball shoved up your ****ing ass like TEX?

Can you just have a conversation without constantly calling names? I’d suggest you see a therapist. Literally nobody else on here acts like a complete piece of shit keyboard warrior like you do.

And no, last year’s team wasn’t the “Belichick model” at all, whatever the hell that is. We’ve seen time after time other teams try to replicate it and it never works.

O.city 11-06-2023 09:39 AM

Last years team had a QB making 21% of the cap literally play like 21% of the "player". It's unheard of.


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