LMAO LMAO LMAO

Horrible. This off-season is...not going how I expected.

Yea because that’s the plan!

****ing moron.

OL is a critical element to keep the QB happy. Veach has done a good job with that aspect in the last offseason. Hopefully they can keep the solid OL intact moving forward. I would like to see them put together a better defense. Mahomes has never had a really great defense to help him. And when I say never, I mean never. He lost playoff games in high school where he scored 50+ points.

Wasted season coming up. Stupid to have traded Tyreek.

RIP

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i agree , now tell me who can adequately replace Hill and the problem is solved.

Hmm? Well I'll hold back my judgement until I see exactly what's lined up on both sides of the ball, the first game of the season. I started looking at football from more of a business angle years ago and I don't get all choked up if a player, even a good player, gets traded. It's just business and we can't always keep every star on the team and expect dollars to pencil out. If Bart can hit some home runs on his draft picks to fill our numerous holes, we will be fine. One thing is for sure, this move is going to make the draft a lot more exciting.

Yep. Considering Reid isn't going to run the ball more regardless of personnel, WR is the only position of need on offense.

I mean trading guys at this point in their career is what long term success looks like.

Good luck with replacing him though. Once in a generation unique talent.

Now I wish Clay really had an insider. DK would be nice

The same folks who are pissed we didn't keep Tyreek and pay him $30/yr are the same folks who bitch that we have Sorenson and Niemann as backups. If you want the latter to change, you can't pay the majority of your cap to 5 players...

After all the moves made in the West.
KC shits the bed with Tyreek.

Guess I'll try and find away to Enjoy the sucking , enjoy Mahomes running around throwing picks.

You dnt pull a trick like this with a receiver that stands alone with Jerry Rice and Randy Moss.

Dnt see this as anything but the biggest mistake since KC tried the Patriots Way.

Shut the **** up staylor

Maybe, most likely if we rely on the draft.

Nope, had to be done. $30M per for a WR is nonsense.

Oddly enough, that stupid troll might accidentally predict the DK Metcalf trade.

ROFL ROFL ROFL

Mauling O-Line, and we couldn't get EB/Reid to run the ball with the 'Gals dropping 25 into coverage. And out last best hope for anything other than scrambling and chucking was Reid remembering how well 'Reek ran jet sweeps.

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If you need to trade your 2nd best player in order to attack the secondary market, you're doing a bad job of managing shit.

I understand that we might not be able to get the big time FAs, but needing to trade Tyreek just so we can sign a bunch of Deon Bush's and what?...Jadeveon Clowney if we're lucky, just makes no sense to me.

Yeah he was really happy with their shitty personnel moves LMAO

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Juju's contract is insanely cheap this year but that money counts against the cap next year. Now we're less in need of that immediate cap relief. We didn't win by getting JuJu on a 1yr 10.75mm deal. We would've won had we gotten him on a 3-year deal with that AAV.

No one player can replace him, but a young WR or two and a much improved defense can.

Crazy that they just restructured Thuney when they had to know this was in the works.

What are they working on that requires all that cap space? We have to have 25m in cap space now

You're absolutely right. Sometimes you have to take a step back to take additional steps forward. You can't live off the credit card forever. Eventually, you have to make some investments.

And Juju probably wasn’t going to sign anything more than one year. He wants to build his value, which he didn’t get to last season, and cash in next year.

And this is my biggest problem with trading Tyreek.

The Chiefs are taking a significant step back in a season when Mahomes is still in his prime and the rest of the division has gotten significantly better.

You can't gamble on potentially wasting these seasons with Mahomes still in his prime by hoping you can essentially hit the lottery in the draft... which is what the Chiefs are going to have to do... to effectively replace what they are losing with Tyreek Hill.

And that's the HOLY SHIT kinda move I'm referencing above. But we're right back in the same position with a WR wanting a metric **** ton of money in 2023.

I mean this is it. Hill was massively expensive, because he was a unique weapon. There is no-one in this draft or FA that offers what he does. We can get some very good players, and possibly improve our depth across the defence. But we can't replace this in the short-medium term.

It's an offence minded team with a HOF WR. Trading that to develop a marginally better defence is an odd move.

So we're going to trade a potential hall of famer because we don't want to pay him to trade for a maybe great player with a bad attitude who's also going to want to be paid by next year?

I guess that would make as much sense as the past 6 months of the chiefs season/off season.

This move is really going to put a dent in PM's numbers

Yea, whatever, if you had a job offer making 30% more, and it was located in a tax free State in a city like Miami you would probably make that decision too. Especially if that decision was approx. $40 million more over 4 years...

I don’t see DK happening.

I would trade for McLaurin though.

The Chiefs were willing to pay Tyreek a ton of money. He just wanted to completely reset the market.

The Chiefs can't do that with every single extension. I think that was the difference.

Gonna be fun to revisit this thread in a few years and laugh at the people who were knocking this deal. I went from the uneasy feeling that we were on the downward curve side of our run to being totally stoked about the next 5 year window. And I'm as big of a Tyreek fan as anyone. This is a great move, not only for the future, but for this season as well.

Great move Veach!

Congrats on getting paid Tyreek, and thanks for your contributions!

Stephon Gilmore!!

Go **** yourself Kiimosabi!

Yall got the money now, That's a player we are targeting too, Yall may get him now

Trading for Hill makes sense for the Dolphs because of the Hawaiin...It makes sense for the Chiefs because of Mahomes.

It was going to happen eventually, it's to our advantage to just take our medicine now and be ready to roll in a year or two when all these teams that went nuts start feeling the effects.

I don't remember the exact figures, but it seems to me his cap number was about $21.5M and his signing bonus money was only about $2.5 or 6M. That gives us about $18M relief, right? Plus a load of picks. While I hate to see him go, it's a business on both ends and we're not spending whatever to keep him this year and the next 2 or 3. He gets paid and Miami is probably more his style (especially if Baby Mama doesn't follow him). The other bright spot for us is he gets to cause havoc with the Bills D twice a year.
Bottom lines, thanks Reek for all you did and we wish you well. Second. Enroll Juju in the Berlitz version of Reid's offense.

I don't see DK happening either - but without that level of move, 2022 gonna be a rough year.

DK Tradeo:-)

Not unless Reid suddenly decides to utilize a balanced offense for the first time in his career, which would actually be a positive for Mahomes.

I ****ing called this move last season. You all laughed at me :D

very possible

Ok looking at the optimistic side of this now. We got the picks, and $20M more in cap space, which is easy to forget. If we had paid Hill what the Jets did, I'd be happier. But I'd still be nervous about putting all our eggs in that basket. We'd almost be guaranteed having to rebuild in a couple years when Hill declined and all the bills came due.

Also Hill's speed is still all there, but the last couple years he's had steadily more drops. He used to pull down everything in traffic. The huge drop at the beginning of the 49ers SB could have changed the complexion of the game. And last year he almost single-handedly lost us a couple games this year dropping easy passes that went for INTs in huge spots. He signed some endorsement deal for gloves last year that a lot of people thought contributed to it.

So he might already be on the decline in that aspect. We'll see.

Thanks for wasp

Bullshit, I've poked fun at their incompetence, but never had any illusion that they were anything but the price of weapons elsewhere.

Decisions like Clark and the lack of cohesion throughout the defensive unit have been the bitch-point.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As for Andy Reid and the <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> , the WR spot is a replaceable position in that system. Reid spent his formative coaching years with Mike Holmgren with the <a href="https://twitter.com/packers?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@packers</a> and the general belief was that the scheme/QB creates the WR. No need for a 1st rounder either.. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLDraft?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLDraft</a></p>&mdash; Bucky Brooks (@BuckyBrooks) <a href="https://twitter.com/BuckyBrooks/status/1506701580782907392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Holy crap!! I am a Buffalo Bills fan and Tyrek Hill scared me more than any other player in the league. That dude plays WR on video game mode. I don't love him being in the AFCE, but then, the Phins ain't got no Pat Mahommes tossing it to him.

Sorry for you guys, I would hate this as well too. But damn if it ain't good for the Bills. Hill is the ultimate weapon.

It sucks and I hate it to lose him.

But it's a business and shit happens. Move forward. All we know, Hardman explodes in that role and takes off, the Chiefs hit on a few draft picks and off to the races we go.

ROFLLMAO

I know I know

I mean, that's great for 2025 and all, but...

That CERTAINLY cannot be the plan.

I feel fairly confident in saying Hardman will come nowhere close to offering what Tyreek did.


He's Dexter McCluster 2: Electric Boogaloo

It sucks, but let's not forget that the offense functioned pretty well without him for several games in 2019. Averaged close to 30 ppg, I think. They had their way with the Ravens' D without him.

He also barely played vs Pittsburgh last year (and Kelce didn't play at all) and they still had their way and looked as good as they had all season.

They can definitely find ways to replace the production, but it obviously sucks to lose the speed and homerun potential.

You can't replace a Tyreek Hill period unless it's a upgrade and only 1 team has that player now and he is under contract:D

Ehhhh, I don't know about that. Losing one of the most electrifying WR's in the NFL is going to leave a dent. The question is "how big of a dent".

Way to go out on a limb

Go fall on a table...

Correct... we agree. It's hard to pay up for low level talent when you are paying the bulk of your cap to 5-6 guys. We are then left with minimums being paid to Niemann and slightly more than minimum to Sorenson. Not paying Tyreek "could" effect that outcome, but paying Tyreek would have mandated that structure.

Some of the same people who talk about how hard it is to play WR in Reid's system and how complicated it is to learn and use it as an excuse for mecoles development are now acting like replacing Hill and drafting a day 1 contributor will be so easy.

Thats the word I have been looking for "electrifying"

Already did..that's why they're like that.

He’s not Tyreek, but the McCluster comparison is ****ing dumb.

Thinking that the WR position can be propped up by scheme/system rather than talent has gotten the Chiefs in trouble before under Andy Reid... i.e. the 2014 season when no Chiefs WR caught a TD and they missed the playoffs.

Did he miss on Creed Humphrey and Trey Smith? No.

That Pittsburgh game was interesting. Mahomes stopped focusing so much on Kelce & Tyreek. He spread the ball around to different people and it was very effective.

Yep, and that's what's frustrating me.

I'm disappointed in the return, but the trade had to happen.

But to act like 2022 isn't going to be a down year (unless Veach makes an out of nowhere trade) is ridiculous.

Speaking of trade - this guy "reporting" is a moron, but a mid-round pick here wouldn't hurt for a decent option who is under control for two more years.

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Or Sneed or Gay or Bolton? Fenton?

I would love that trade. He doesn’t bring the speed element but he can do some shit out of the backfield like Samuel does in San Fran.

Since we are talking WR's... Cornell Powell?

Alex Smith is no Patrick Mahomes and we have 3 picks in the top 50 in a strong WR draft

Agree, but you're still waiting a few years to develop a legit WR1.

But for now, and what he would cost - I'd absolutely do it.

What the ****......

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So can Hardman

And it is what it is at this point. Put talent on the field anyway you can.

Go get Shenault. Draft a WR with a 1 and 3. The offense will still be very good. Won't be at the elite level it has been, but good enough to win, especially if the defense gets better.

4.58 at 6'1 230#'s works for me

LMAO

A 6th round rookie wasn’t a stud?

Oh the horror!

My guy Calvin Austin sure feels like a hell of a fit now.

Right. What a butt ****ing moron LMAO