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Kareem Hunt has more yards (538) than the Ravens, Bills, Panthers, and Texans have net passing yards through week three.

Who gives a shit?

The list of 2,000 yard rushers is littered with guys who were never the same player again. Even an absolute freak like Barry Sanders, who did it on a mere 335 carries, saw his YPC drop by nearly 2 full yards the following year.

Ignoring the near term and long-term prosperity of the team so you can get some meaningless record is just as dumb a thing as I've heard since...well probably something else you said.

At this point, having Hunt 100% healthy for the playoffs should be the teams #1 priority.

This is a super bowl team with him in the equation.

Probably not without him.

Anyone else got the feeling this is going to be a special year?

Damn! Mahomes on the team and we win the super bowl. It’s the Mahomo magic!

One game at a time. But I sense that the AFC old guard of Brady and Ben will be supplanted soon. We seem to have the type of team that will be knocking on the door for the next decade or so and once or maybe a couple of times the stars will align.

It’ll be years of Smitty vs Bortles!!

It's week 4. The #1 priority is ****ing winning games, dude.

Brady is over this season if he last that long. No way Bill plays a 41 year old QB with his younger future guy just sitting their making 20 mil. Ben almost retired and lately looks like he should have.

This.

I don't get what people mean by 'keeping him healthy' the guy is averaging 16 carries a game. What are we supposed to give him the ball 10-times a game?

Give the guy the ball as much as possible (within reason). He's a great player and a rookie. He is still learning believe it or not.

Touches and carries aren't the same.

20 - 25 total touches is not out of line. AT all.

You think his totals are about right?

Okay. He's averaging about 19 touches per game, and you think 1-6 more touches per game is a big deal?

Whatever man. I'm guessing you're more of a 'split backfield' type of guy. I'm not. I like having a starting RB.

Christ, JC ended up hurt and we did this 'conserve him so he doesn't break down" shit with him. Ride the horse until he's ready to be put down.

As for Penbrook... I don't determine my opinion based on who says what. A broken clock can be right twice a day, and I've never supported the 'save your RB until tomorrow' mentality espoused by so many on this forum. Does Priest Holmes last 7 seasons instead of 3 if we work him less? No, probably not. Productive RB's don't have a long shelf life. The LT's and AP's are a rare breed. Not using them won't increase it. It just wastes them when they're good.

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He takes 4-5 hits a carry, you can't look at the raw numbers with him.

The carries v. touches distinction has been lessened significantly since the rise of the short passing game. A halfback is far more likely to get 5-6 catches that are 'passes' in name only these days. They're effectively runs.

25 touches/gm is absolutely too many. And 20/gm is too many for a rookie RB that you hope is still running effectively in the post-season, especially with his style of play.

Hitting that mark on occasion isn't a problem, but if you're averaging that many touches a game, the guy's going to be beat to shit and gassed by the end of the year.

"oh well it's just 6 more touches/gm" is crazy - that's a full 33% more contact. It's nearly 100 more times he gets hit over the course of a year. Yes, there's a massive difference between 18/19 touches and 24/25.

Who is arguing to give him the ball less? Some of you insist on constructing a straw man here.

Again - folks are responding to the 'feed Hunt the rock' crowd by saying that Reid is actually doing it perfectly right now. He's getting about the right amount of touches.

I want Akeem back there and just have a Hunt run the ball everytime :)

So 320 total touches is too much and you want to keep it under 300?

Okay. Whatever you say. :rolleyes: I'm okay with a starting RB getting the load of a starting RB.

Dude....you won't be ok with it when we get into the playoffs and Hunt is dinged up and isn't 100% effective.

That could happen otherwise. The only way to ensure that won't happen is to start Charcandrick West.

He's not going to be 100% by the playoffs otherwise. Everyone is dinged up after 16 weeks of football, including opposing defenses.

Why not apply that same logic to every important player? Let's not have Kelce in on those blocking plays. He could get tangled up and hurt his knee!

:)

No one knew he'd be this good but it looks like the Tomlinson/E. Smith comparisons weren't so far off the mark...

More Terrell Davis to me personally, but anything related to those names is impressive as hell!

It could happen at 200 or it could happen at 400. Nobody knows where the line is but it's safe to assume that the more carries you give the guy, the more likely you are to hit it.

Moreover, when it comes to contact in the NFL, more is always worse than less and we absolutely know that more touches equals more contact.

You're being remarkably obtuse here. You know there's no bright line cut off yet you keep trying to hammer theoretical end points as some kind of 'gotchya!' moment. You also know that RB is among the most physically taxing positions in the game. Ignoring that fact greatly increases the chance that he's worn down and at what expense?

It is better to have fewer carries on your RB in January - full stop. There's no argument to the contrary. You don't go out there and bubble wrap the guy to go 8-8 in order to save those carries, but there's absolutely a point where the juice doesn't justify the squeeze. If you're force-feeding him the ball so he you can win games by 17 instead of 3 and come January he's lost just enough burst to not be able to outrun the angle on that cutback run - what the hell was the point?

Reid's handling him perfectly. No, there's no cause to spike his touches.

I don't even feel the need to reply to anything right now. DJ has typed out my responses for me...and did a better job than I would have in his wording.

Thanks, bud.

Some of this teams fans just EXPECT an early exit from the playoffs and have lost track of the big picture...winning it all.

I think KC has a nice chance at winning it all if Hunt is healthy come playoff time.

People say he’s a better Ricky Williams

I read Ricky Williams yesterday. I think that's the best comparison so far.

Kareem can do the same thing for the Chiefs that Terrell Davis did for Denver....if he stays healthy.

There is a reall good article on Hunt in the Star today by Millinger. I can't link it, but someone should when you can. Very long article, but goes back to his childhood.

At 7, he wasn't tackled in his first two games. Had another game... against a team that Mitch Trabisky was on... where he rushed for nearly 1000 yards and had 11 (I think) touchdowns.

We haven't made the playoffs yet so this whole talk of limiting his touches for January is a moot point until we clinch.

No it isn't.

No one clinches a playoff spot in September, but teams with playoff aspirations absolutely have to plan for them.

Why does Hunt have to be the guy to clinch those wins? Make your goddamn boyfriend do it.

Of course, that would mean he wouldn't be able to shitty game manage coast his way through the game as soon as he gained a lead in the 2nd quarter.

Reid had us closer to winning a home divisional playoff than any coach in our history. A 2 point loss where the refs took away play game tying play. This was the same game where we had a mash unit on the defensive line. We already knew it was a bad matchup and lost by 2

If we are healthy and at home I like our chances vs anyone

AFC player of the month. Last time a rookie won this award was 17 years ago.

https://twitter.com/RLiuNFL/status/913395530906193920

The Chiefs are averaging more than a half yard MORE per play than any other team.

https://i.imgur.com/ki4hUf0.jpg

That's all Kareem Hunt. You take away his 78 yard rec, 52 yard run and 69 yard run and the average drops to 6.05.

To give credit where credit is due.....that 78 yard reception is on Smith as well. He dropped a ****ing dime to Hunt.

Kyle Brandt said Kareem Hunt reminds him of Ricky Waters, but he's better catching the ball than Ricky was.

Not a bad comp

Player of the Month is huge honor for your FIRST month!

And 45 of the 78 yards were RAC.

But if Smith hadn't dropped it to him in stride, he could have been tackled before he got those yards. I swear, you try way too hard to take Credit from Smith. But you can't do it there.

Health is the most important thing.

Sometimes QB's ball placement can dictate RAC. His placement allowed Hunt to get those other 45 yards.

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Wowza. I'm thinking this was a really good use of a 3rd round pick.

Deserves its own thread IMO.

So Smith dropped a 33 yard pass on the money leading his reciever so he can out run the defender for the td and your dumbass still tries to bash him? No wonder no one takes you seriously

Here is the article that was in the Star this morning:

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...173491466.html

Long read, but very good.

It still takes a special player to take that one to the house.

It's scheme. Not knocking Hunt, but he's not the next Jim Brown or anything. The big plays will start being less common as teams adjust to the Chiefs' trickery.

It's not just scheme.

Spencer Ware wasn't breaking runs like that last year.

Look at this run:

https://i.imgur.com/gnULqLV.gif

"Scheme" failed there.

And this is a good 15 yards after first contact:

https://i.imgur.com/ZlSJxXZ.gif

We haven't seen the combination of leg drive and acceleration like this since LJ.

"Trickery" LMAO

We're tricking the rest of the NFL by running right up the middle of the defense.

I remember when you said this about Tyreek Hill last year. How'd that turn out?

He's good. Honestly he reminds me a lot of CJ Anderson...

https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-28-2017/7S31en.gif

ughh, Hunt isnt in involved in the "trickery". lol ****ing people man.

yeah, running off tackle and down the middle. lol No one expects it! lol

Except he's way better.

You've got one gif from one game. This dude has been doing it for his first 3 games....so much so that he leads the NFL in broken tackles.

in about 3-4 games he should pass CJ Anderson's career high in rushing yards. CJ doesnt even have a 1000 yard season. lol

No, but he benefits greatly from all the pre-snap motion and post-snap, read-option BS the Chiefs do.

That’s why A Smitty is so great!! Second leading QB in fantasy points behind Brady and is a MVP candidate according to HOF Terrell Davis

Hopefully his running style doesn't bite him in the ass like CJ's does.

This is a Kareem Hunt thread. Get the **** out of here with this bullshit.

Well considering one is ok and the other is amazing I'm not worried

CJ's been doing this for years...

http://bsndenver.com/wp-content/uplo...vs-raiders.gif

Which one is he there?

Ooooh wow, look guys he showing us clips from CJ Anderson!

Does it depress you that Hunt has equaled 15% of CJ Andersons career yards in three games?

CJ Anderson is a ****ing scrub that can't make it through a season.

Get your bullshit out of the thread for the best back in football.

Yeah at this rate Hunt will pass him in career yards sometime next year....

Crickets

Anyone have his yards after 1st contact compared to the rest of the league?

Need a PFF premium sub. $$$

Hunt is the top-ranked DVOA RB, though. That means something.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/rb

Oh, they dropped this though. He's #1.

Show us a clip of Anderson doing that against a team with a real defense. My grandma could get a 50 yard run against the Faiders.

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Arms are for show, legs are for GO

Trickery? There's no trickery to the play that he burned the Chargers on. He's got great vision, balance, and uses his strides effectively. If linebackers and safeties want to cheat then our receivers and tight ends will abuse them. Pick your poison.

Hater.

Keep living in your psychologically detached dream world, I almost feel sorry for you, but withe the clear reality that you possess zero intelligence and yet continue to flaunt that flaw, my empathy meter is running low...

There are literally zero owners, GMs or coaches in the NFL that would take CJ Anderson over Kareem Hunt.