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Frosty 09-18-2017 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 13084988)
Falk seemed to have rebounded from his really bad game against Boise. It is Oregon State which hasn't been decent in a while but still.

I wouldn't get too excited about the results of last weekend's game. My Beavers would struggle against a high school team this year. :grr:

BryanBusby 09-18-2017 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13089613)
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...ing-an-eye-on/

7. Josh Allen, Wyoming

Stock Down

Since forever, many NFL coaches have believed if a quarterback has all the physical tools he can be taught the intricacies of the position. For example, Josh Allen is 6-feet-4 with plus athleticism and a Matthew Stafford-esque arm, hence his first-round (or to some, No. 1 overall) hype heading into this season.

But I think it's time we turn that old-school philosophy on its head. To me, arm strength can be developed at the NFL level. Accuracy, coverage-reading and sound decision-making cannot. If you're having trouble consistently throwing an accurate football, reading a defense, or choosing when it's OK to fire a pass into tight coverage in college, how in the world are you going to suddenly improve in all those areas against the most challenging competition on Earth? You're not.

This theory applies directly to Allen. He was blessed with immense physical talent. There is absolutely no doubting that. But he has much to learn regarding the vital nuances of playing quarterback.

Also, there's a caveat here. Like I wrote after his poor performance against Iowa, I'm not going blast him when Wyoming is ridiculously overmatched, and it certainly was against Oregon. He has a tendency to try to do too much to account for the sizable gap in talent when his Cowboys face a team from a Power Five conference, but he can't do it alone. His receivers haven't exactly helped to boost his draft stock either.

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Any team that selects Allen in the first round, let alone Top 5, will be disappointed with the results.

You can't teach accuracy.

I think it comes down to why a player is inaccurate. In a lotof cases, yeah that's correct. Just ask Hack and the Jets.

O.city 09-18-2017 08:40 PM

Rosen and darnold are gonna be good pros. They're legit

BryanBusby 09-18-2017 08:59 PM

I think people really over estimated how ready Darnold is.

He needs more time.

OldSchool 09-18-2017 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13090978)
I think people really over estimated how ready Darnold is.

He needs more time.

Isn't he just a redshirt Sophomore this year?

BryanBusby 09-18-2017 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 13091019)
Isn't he just a redshirt Sophomore this year?

Yeah.

staylor26 09-18-2017 11:16 PM

Darnold is easily the best and the only one I can see being on Mahomes level.

He should probably stay one more year though. For one, he needs it, and for two, who wants to play for the Jets?

Rudolph is the most underrated. I think he could be a solid starter.

BryanBusby 09-18-2017 11:17 PM

Rosen is pretty decent and will be the lock at 1.

I liked Rudolph in the wintet and want to see how he progresses.

O.city 09-19-2017 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13090978)
I think people really over estimated how ready Darnold is.

He needs more time.

He's improving at a crazy rate

Darnold and Rosen are already good from the pocket. That's a great starting point

Quesadilla Joe 09-19-2017 09:22 AM

Breer on Rudolph...

Spoiler!


Breer's first "Big Board"...

Spoiler!


https://www.si.com/2018-nfl-draft-qu...gs-stock-watch

RunKC 09-19-2017 09:32 AM

Mahomes is in a different level than these QB's. I haven't seen as impressive as a showing from these guys as Mahomes vs LSU.

O.city 09-19-2017 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13091449)
Mahomes is in a different level than these QB's. I haven't seen as impressive as a showing from these guys as Mahomes vs LSU.

As a prospect, I .....eh.... probably not.

Rosen and Darnold are really good prospects. Like really really good.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-19-2017 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13091449)
Mahomes is in a different level than these QB's. I haven't seen as impressive as a showing from these guys as Mahomes vs LSU.

We really planned the invasion and attack for Mahomes in a manner that would make General Patton proud.
Had it not been for that ONE photo of Mahomes and Clark, NO ONE would have had a ****ing clue about what KC was up to until it was too late.

I really REALLY hope that Veach is as advertised and that his work/involvement in the last few drafts will be pinpointed and brought to light so that we can have SOME idea as to how much talent we're actually getting with him.

OldSchool 09-19-2017 11:37 PM

Darnold is a future franchise QB. I assume he's not going to come out for another couple of years though. That means Rosen is your best QB for 2018 draft, and it's not certain if he comes out either. Rosen is really damn good too, but he takes too many chances, IMO.

BryanBusby 09-20-2017 12:08 AM

Rosen doesn't seem to like school.

If gets a 2nd round grade or higher he's gonna leave.

Quesadilla Joe 09-20-2017 07:38 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For people who think Mason Rudolph is the &quot;flavor of the month&quot;, please learn how to evaluate QB&#39;s. He&#39;s the real deal guys!</p>&mdash; Greg Gabriel (@greggabe) <a href="https://twitter.com/greggabe/status/910493964930871297">September 20, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Quesadilla Joe 09-22-2017 09:14 AM

From DJ and Bucky Brooks...

Josh Allen poses NFL dilemma; Round 1 look for Mason Rudolph

Spoiler!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...&sf116043404=1

DJ's left nut 09-22-2017 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 13092750)
Darnold is a future franchise QB. I assume he's not going to come out for another couple of years though. That means Rosen is your best QB for 2018 draft, and it's not certain if he comes out either. Rosen is really damn good too, but he takes too many chances, IMO.

If you get graded in the top 5, you have to go. You just do.

Think of guys like Locker, Lienart and Barkley; guys that were going to be top 10 quarterbacks who stuck around. Now Locker's stock only slipped a little bit but he was considered a potential 1.1 in that draft (it's important to remember how badly that class s*******ed). Now he's an outlier because the draft rules changed and he took a $30 million hit by not leaving early, but he also got exposed a bit as a SR.

Leinart was, what, mid-1st when he got drafted? He didn't plummet but he still cost himself money by sticking around.

I just can't think of a good reason for a guy who's universally regarded as a top 3 pick to stay in college. He'll get far more seasoning as a pro, it gets him a step closer to FA and the end of his rookie contract that much sooner and ultimately saves him from the possibility of slipping with a sub-par following season (and then what, he sticks around for ANOTHER free season?)

BryanBusby 09-22-2017 09:49 AM

I think you could argue that he could very well get better quality prepping for another season at SC over being piss-pounded with shit coaching and no weapons in NY.

The Jets haven't been able to develop shit since Chad Pennington.

OldSchool 09-23-2017 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13096205)
If you get graded in the top 5, you have to go. You just do.

Think of guys like Locker, Lienart and Barkley; guys that were going to be top 10 quarterbacks who stuck around. Now Locker's stock only slipped a little bit but he was considered a potential 1.1 in that draft (it's important to remember how badly that class s*******ed). Now he's an outlier because the draft rules changed and he took a $30 million hit by not leaving early, but he also got exposed a bit as a SR.

Leinart was, what, mid-1st when he got drafted? He didn't plummet but he still cost himself money by sticking around.

I just can't think of a good reason for a guy who's universally regarded as a top 3 pick to stay in college. He'll get far more seasoning as a pro, it gets him a step closer to FA and the end of his rookie contract that much sooner and ultimately saves him from the possibility of slipping with a sub-par following season (and then what, he sticks around for ANOTHER free season?)

Idk, everything I've read about him seems to point towards him being really dedicated to USC, enough so that he might stick around to try for a championship. Who knows though, people change their minds all of the time.

RealSNR 09-23-2017 05:07 PM

That's about it for Mason Rudolph today.

Definitely not a deal breaker, but he's gotta at least find a way to play better when he faces stingy defenses.

Assuming Darnold stays in school, I don't think anybody is going to beat Rosen for the top QB drafted. Rudolph's still up in the air, and you figure that some NFL team will fall in love with Allen.

And I'd rather have Mahomes than all of them.

RunKC 09-23-2017 05:16 PM

Bleacher Report @BleacherReport
Baker Mayfield to Baylor players pregame: "You forgot who daddy is. I’m gonna have to spank you today." (via @SoonerScoop)

JFF part deaux

GloucesterChief 09-23-2017 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13097862)
That's about it for Mason Rudolph today.

Definitely not a deal breaker, but he's gotta at least find a way to play better when he faces stingy defenses.

Assuming Darnold stays in school, I don't think anybody is going to beat Rosen for the top QB drafted. Rudolph's still up in the air, and you figure that some NFL team will fall in love with Allen.

And I'd rather have Mahomes than all of them.

Why come out and go to the Jets or Bills? Both organizations have been complete clusters for a decade+.

Darnold probably stays.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-23-2017 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 13098517)
Why come out and go to the Jets or Bills? Both organizations have been complete clusters for a decade+.

Darnold probably stays.

Actually, the Bills might not be such a bad place to end up. They completely cleaned house and show signs of a total overhaul.

How successful that may be is an entirely different matter.

GloucesterChief 09-23-2017 10:45 PM

Big matchup on Friday. Wazzu vs. USC. Falk vs. Darnold.

BryanBusby 09-24-2017 12:12 AM

Rosen has had the piss pounded out of him tonight. Will be interesting to see how much the Cardinal ****ed him up.

DJ's left nut 09-26-2017 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13097862)
That's about it for Mason Rudolph today.

Definitely not a deal breaker, but he's gotta at least find a way to play better when he faces stingy defenses.

Assuming Darnold stays in school, I don't think anybody is going to beat Rosen for the top QB drafted. Rudolph's still up in the air, and you figure that some NFL team will fall in love with Allen.

And I'd rather have Mahomes than all of them.

"Wait until next year's historic class...."

Idiots - the lot of them.

GloucesterChief 09-29-2017 11:37 PM

So far Falk is outplaying Darnold.

GloucesterChief 09-30-2017 12:09 AM

Game ends when Darnold is strip sacked and Wazzu recovers!

kccrow 09-30-2017 03:08 PM

over/under on the Oklahoma State/Texas Tech showdown tonight? Rudolph and Shimonek should probably combine for at least 1000 yards passing lol.

RealSNR 09-30-2017 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13107214)
"Wait until next year's historic class...."

Idiots - the lot of them.

Prior to the 2017 draft, they said the absolute lowest floor of 2018 was still much better than 2017. They'll be lucky if they can match 2017's 3 QBs drafted in the top 10 at this rate.

"Multiple headliner stars at the very top! As many as 10 QBs could get drafted by the end of the 4th round!"

The one headliner star is probably going to stay in school. The others have had their ups and downs, and one of them (Allen) looks absolutely putrid. At best, your headliner stars in 2018 are all dudes with potential but pose a lot of red flags.

Is there any guy in this class more "surefire" than anything we've seen recently? Jameis Winston? Mariota? Even Wentz? It's not looking like it.

RunKC 09-30-2017 07:37 PM

My favorite was the media reporting that "nobody at the combine is even talking about these QB's! Sam Darnold was the main talking point among everyone!".

We should actually thank them. The smart people in the league like Andy Reid, Sean Payton and Bruce Arians wanted him. Thank god the media didn't pump these guys up or one of the 9 teams in front of us probably would have taken Mahomes.

BryanBusby 10-01-2017 11:57 AM

Example why I think CP is smarter than a lot of NFL FO's

RealSNR 10-01-2017 01:46 PM

From a thread on the 2018 class I started in early April:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=307038

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12817208)
You can't even make that judgment right now because those players aren't fully developed.

What we do know is that there will absolutely be 4 or 5 first round quarterbacks in 2018, guys who are DEFINITELY worth that pick.

Meanwhile this class is touted as a bunch of jagoffs who could go in the 2nd or 3rd if everything fell a certain way. They're that uninspiring.

You're all desperate. I'm sad to say it but I think this is where I part ways with QB1 Death Cult. It was fun while it lasted, but I'm not drinking the koolaid again.

That said if we draft White Chocolate Geno I'll certainly give him a chance.

LMAO LMAO LMAO

Clay, dude, you know I love you, but suck my ****ing dick.

staylor26 10-01-2017 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13114534)
From a thread on the 2018 class I started in early April:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=307038



LMAO LMAO LMAO

Clay, dude, you know I love you, but suck my ****ing dick.

Yeesh :facepalm:

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-01-2017 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13114534)
From a thread on the 2018 class I started in early April:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=307038



LMAO LMAO LMAO

Clay, dude, you know I love you, but suck my ****ing dick.

It's one thing to be leery and burnt out on FA's, but I'll draft 1000 Geno's before I ever turn tail on ANY draft class.

Quesadilla Joe 10-02-2017 01:13 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Keep hearing from scouts who&#39;ve made USC school calls that Darnold is going to stay in school</p>&mdash; Greg Gabriel (@greggabe) <a href="https://twitter.com/greggabe/status/914928291500511233?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Direckshun 10-02-2017 01:19 PM

So the 4 stud QBs so far:

Tribusky will start soon
Kizer starts when he returns from injury
Watson is starting now
Mahomes continues marinating under Smith in KC

This is really exciting. Watson looks every bit the stud I thought he'd be -- I look forward to his sophomore year next year when defenses key in on him more. Can he adjust? That was always the question with him, but I figured he could find a way. He's just an amazing talent that I wanted over Mahomes at the time.

Kizer has looked alright, given the dumpster fire he's surrounded by. Reminds me a bit of Derek Carr in a way -- Carr walked into the disaster that was Oakland and didn't completely shit himself. I think Kizer's future could be similar.

Tribusky really did look amazing in the preseason. High hopes for that kid.

Halfcan 10-02-2017 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13091178)
Darnold is easily the best and the only one I can see being on Mahomes level.

He should probably stay one more year though. For one, he needs it, and for two, who wants to play for the Jets?

Rudolph is the most underrated. I think he could be a solid starter.

Definitely, has the brightest nose and best at guiding a sleigh at night.

kccrow 10-02-2017 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13113207)
over/under on the Oklahoma State/Texas Tech showdown tonight? Rudolph and Shimonek should probably combine for at least 1000 yards passing lol.

Disappointed... Only 776...

BryanBusby 10-02-2017 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 13117224)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Keep hearing from scouts who&#39;ve made USC school calls that Darnold is going to stay in school</p>&mdash; Greg Gabriel (@greggabe) <a href="https://twitter.com/greggabe/status/914928291500511233?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Would be an idiot to leave, although he might avoid the Jets.

May not avoid the Chargers though.....

kccrow 10-02-2017 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 13117224)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Keep hearing from scouts who&#39;ve made USC school calls that Darnold is going to stay in school</p>&mdash; Greg Gabriel (@greggabe) <a href="https://twitter.com/greggabe/status/914928291500511233?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
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I've been saying this since last year. It would literally floor me if this kid left after this year.

GloucesterChief 10-02-2017 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13117974)
I've been saying this since last year. It would literally floor me if this kid left after this year.

He has regressed some and is throwing more picks this year. USCs WRs are also under performing this year. They seem to not be able to shake DBs.

BryanBusby 10-02-2017 10:38 PM

No Darnold, Allen looks bad, Rosen is good but far from a generation talent.

Wait for 18 guyz!

Quesadilla Joe 10-03-2017 07:25 AM

From DJ...

Josh Allen's skills on par with top NFL QBs, despite struggles

Spoiler!

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...&sf118284158=1

kccrow 10-03-2017 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 13122434)
From DJ...

Josh Allen's skills on par with top NFL QBs, despite struggles

Spoiler!

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...&sf118284158=1

Very reminiscent of a guy name Hackenberg isn't it?

Accuracy issues. Couldn't produce when talent around him decreased. Interceptions. blah blah. Same shit another guy.

RealSNR 10-03-2017 12:53 PM

How is Allen a better talent coming out than Mahomes?

He looks shittier, plays against worse competition. Yet he's this prized QB based on his skill set and Mahomes is "TEXAS TECH AIR RAID DO NOT DRAFT!!!!"

Quesadilla Joe 10-04-2017 11:47 AM

Ask 5: What's best NFL comp for Washington State's Luke Falk?

Spoiler!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...edium=referral

RealSNR 10-04-2017 01:32 PM

I haven't watched any Washington State games in recent memory. Did Mike Leach suddenly turn over a new leaf? Won't his QBs have the same issues and concerns that his Texas Tech QBs did?

GloucesterChief 10-05-2017 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13125342)
I haven't watched any Washington State games in recent memory. Did Mike Leach suddenly turn over a new leaf? Won't his QBs have the same issues and concerns that his Texas Tech QBs did?

People are confused about Leach's air raid compared to the up tempo styles. Leach's offense can play up tempo but he prefers a snap with under 10 seconds on the play clock. The QB gets two plays: a pass play and a run play and it is his decision to check into either one depending on what he sees the defense doing. He can also audible protections and routes at the line.

RealSNR 10-06-2017 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 13128543)
People are confused about Leach's air raid compared to the up tempo styles. Leach's offense can play up tempo but he prefers a snap with under 10 seconds on the play clock. The QB gets two plays: a pass play and a run play and it is his decision to check into either one depending on what he sees the defense doing. He can also audible protections and routes at the line.

That's what Mahomes did.

GloucesterChief 10-06-2017 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13129468)
That's what Mahomes did.

Pretty much. Falk is much less mobile and has a weaker arm but much more accurate from the pocket.

GloucesterChief 10-13-2017 11:08 PM

Welp, Falk shit the bed this week. 4 ints and the game isn't over yet.

BryanBusby 10-28-2017 06:36 AM

I'm not a big fan of Falk. Doesn't seem like a fast enough decision maker if the Leach choice isn't open. Racks up a lot of sacks behind an actually decent line.

Not exactly impressive as an athlete or decision maker.

GloucesterChief 10-28-2017 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13179587)
I'm not a big fan of Falk. Doesn't seem like a fast enough decision maker if the Leach choice isn't open. Racks up a lot of sacks behind an actually decent line.

Not exactly impressive as an athlete or decision maker.

He hasn't been as sharp this year as he has in previous. Not sure what the issue is. He has always held the ball too long though.

BryanBusby 10-28-2017 10:59 PM

And benched

GloucesterChief 10-29-2017 07:53 AM

Yep. There is something off about him this year. He doesn't look like the same guy.

RealSNR 10-29-2017 01:02 PM

A great class of QBs, guys!

I mean, Sam Darnold probably isn't going to declare. And with the possible exception of Rosen and Lamar Jackson, all of the projected QBs to go in the first 3 rounds have regressed. But so what? Deep class of QBs!

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-29-2017 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13181143)
A great class of QBs, guys!

I mean, Sam Darnold probably isn't going to declare. And with the possible exception of Rosen and Lamar Jackson, all of the projected QBs to go in the first 3 rounds have regressed. But so what? Deep class of QBs!

Plenty of clown shoes to go around, no doubt.

BryanBusby 10-29-2017 05:24 PM

I can't wait to see what team is stupid enough to draft Josh Allen in the first round, even with shitty tape.

kccrow 10-30-2017 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13182009)
I can't wait to see what team is stupid enough to draft Josh Allen in the first round, even with shitty tape.

A team would have to be stupid on an epic level to draft that kid anywhere in the 2nd let alone the 1st. He has major accuracy issues.

OldSchool 10-30-2017 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13182009)
I can't wait to see what team is stupid enough to draft Josh Allen in the first round, even with shitty tape.

But it's all his teammates' faults.

BryanBusby 10-31-2017 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 13188395)
But it's all his teammates' faults.

The whole talk on him reminds me so much of the excuse waffling people did on Hack.

His tape was a cum dumpster, and he still went in the 2nd round. That's why I am confident that Allen still goes early.

All it takes is one team to ignore the tape. Thank god it won't be us.

OldSchool 10-31-2017 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13188502)
The whole talk on him reminds me so much of the excuse waffling people did on Hack.

His tape was a cum dumpster, and he still went in the 2nd round. That's why I am confident that Allen still goes early.

All it takes is one team to ignore the tape. Thank god it won't be us.

Yup. But there's going to be at least 1 team that thinks they can get a hold of a kid with a rocket arm and Big Ben size and somehow teach him to consistently hit deep outs, back shoulder throws, and drop a dime on deep fades.

RealSNR 10-31-2017 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 13188530)
Yup. But there's going to be at least 1 team that thinks they can get a hold of a kid with a rocket arm and Big Ben size and somehow teach him to consistently hit deep outs, back shoulder throws, and drop a dime on deep fades.

Enter: The Cleveland Browns

RunKC 11-01-2017 05:48 PM

Nick Camino
@NickCaminoWTAM
Per @AlbertBreer, Sam Darnold will want to wait and see who has the top pick or two in the NFL Draft. If it's Browns, he could stay at USC.
1:25 PM ˇ Nov 1, 2017

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-01-2017 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13191928)
Nick Camino
@NickCaminoWTAM
Per @AlbertBreer, Sam Darnold will want to wait and see who has the top pick or two in the NFL Draft. If it's Browns, he could stay at USC.
1:25 PM ˇ Nov 1, 2017

Didn't the Browns address this in the 2017 draft?

GloucesterChief 11-01-2017 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 13191985)
Didn't the Browns address this in the 2017 draft?

They tried to trade for McCarron, so no...

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-01-2017 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 13191989)
They tried to trade for McCarron, so no...

After some brief research, I see your point. Jeez...

KChiefs1 11-02-2017 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13191928)
Nick Camino
@NickCaminoWTAM
Per @AlbertBreer, Sam Darnold will want to wait and see who has the top pick or two in the NFL Draft. If it's Browns, he could stay at USC.
1:25 PM ˇ Nov 1, 2017

He'd be a fool not to see who might be drafting him.

Buehler445 11-03-2017 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13181143)
A great class of QBs, guys!

I mean, Sam Darnold probably isn't going to declare. And with the possible exception of Rosen and Lamar Jackson, all of the projected QBs to go in the first 3 rounds have regressed. But so what? Deep class of QBs!

And it has further come to light precisely how much of a douche Rosen is.

OldSchool 11-03-2017 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13196175)
And it has further come to light precisely how much of a douche Rosen is.

Ups Smith's value if the team wants to trade him in 2018.

GloucesterChief 11-04-2017 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13196175)
And it has further come to light precisely how much of a douche Rosen is.

For sitting out with a concussion?

GloucesterChief 11-04-2017 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 13196258)
Ups Smith's value if the team wants to trade him in 2018.

Smith landing in Jax could make the Jags a pretty scary team.

O.city 11-04-2017 10:24 AM

DJLN and I talked about it in the lounge but I think in terms of trading smith, the ideal situation is if cousins leaves Washington. He'd be a good fit there with Gruden as a bridge.

kccrow 11-04-2017 04:07 PM

I'd have to think Jacksonville and Cleveland are the two most likely trade spots. Jacksonville needs a vet QB to win now with that defense and Cleveland can't seem to draft a QB and need to become competitive - plus they have a slew of picks with extra 1, 2-2's, 3, 4, 5, 6....

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-04-2017 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13196984)
I'd have to think Jacksonville and Cleveland are the two most likely trade spots. Jacksonville needs a vet QB to win now with that defense and Cleveland can't seem to draft a QB and need to become competitive - plus they have a slew of picks with extra 1, 2-2's, 3, 4, 5, 6....

I've often said he'd make a good Brown.

RunKC 11-04-2017 08:00 PM

Vikings are the best place IMO. They only need a QB.

BryanBusby 11-04-2017 08:26 PM

We're so lucky they didn't wait for '18 to get Alex's replacement

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-04-2017 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13197328)
We're so lucky they didn't wait for '18 to get Alex's replacement

Indeed. I've never been one for the "wait until 18" or whatever year you choose; betting on crop yield is absurd in the face known quantity.
If talent that you believe in is there, step up and take it.

The only drawback about QB1 or death is that you will from time to time get the Geno's and Barkley's. You'll also never miss the Lucks' and Mahomes. :)


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