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Rosen and darnold are gonna be good pros. They're legit
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I think people really over estimated how ready Darnold is.
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Darnold is easily the best and the only one I can see being on Mahomes level.
He should probably stay one more year though. For one, he needs it, and for two, who wants to play for the Jets? Rudolph is the most underrated. I think he could be a solid starter. |
Rosen is pretty decent and will be the lock at 1.
I liked Rudolph in the wintet and want to see how he progresses. |
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Darnold and Rosen are already good from the pocket. That's a great starting point |
Breer on Rudolph...
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Breer's first "Big Board"...
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https://www.si.com/2018-nfl-draft-qu...gs-stock-watch |
Mahomes is in a different level than these QB's. I haven't seen as impressive as a showing from these guys as Mahomes vs LSU.
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Rosen and Darnold are really good prospects. Like really really good. |
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Had it not been for that ONE photo of Mahomes and Clark, NO ONE would have had a ****ing clue about what KC was up to until it was too late. I really REALLY hope that Veach is as advertised and that his work/involvement in the last few drafts will be pinpointed and brought to light so that we can have SOME idea as to how much talent we're actually getting with him. |
Darnold is a future franchise QB. I assume he's not going to come out for another couple of years though. That means Rosen is your best QB for 2018 draft, and it's not certain if he comes out either. Rosen is really damn good too, but he takes too many chances, IMO.
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Rosen doesn't seem to like school.
If gets a 2nd round grade or higher he's gonna leave. |
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For people who think Mason Rudolph is the "flavor of the month", please learn how to evaluate QB's. He's the real deal guys!</p>— Greg Gabriel (@greggabe) <a href="https://twitter.com/greggabe/status/910493964930871297">September 20, 2017</a></blockquote>
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From DJ and Bucky Brooks...
Josh Allen poses NFL dilemma; Round 1 look for Mason Rudolph
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Think of guys like Locker, Lienart and Barkley; guys that were going to be top 10 quarterbacks who stuck around. Now Locker's stock only slipped a little bit but he was considered a potential 1.1 in that draft (it's important to remember how badly that class s*******ed). Now he's an outlier because the draft rules changed and he took a $30 million hit by not leaving early, but he also got exposed a bit as a SR. Leinart was, what, mid-1st when he got drafted? He didn't plummet but he still cost himself money by sticking around. I just can't think of a good reason for a guy who's universally regarded as a top 3 pick to stay in college. He'll get far more seasoning as a pro, it gets him a step closer to FA and the end of his rookie contract that much sooner and ultimately saves him from the possibility of slipping with a sub-par following season (and then what, he sticks around for ANOTHER free season?) |
I think you could argue that he could very well get better quality prepping for another season at SC over being piss-pounded with shit coaching and no weapons in NY.
The Jets haven't been able to develop shit since Chad Pennington. |
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That's about it for Mason Rudolph today.
Definitely not a deal breaker, but he's gotta at least find a way to play better when he faces stingy defenses. Assuming Darnold stays in school, I don't think anybody is going to beat Rosen for the top QB drafted. Rudolph's still up in the air, and you figure that some NFL team will fall in love with Allen. And I'd rather have Mahomes than all of them. |
Bleacher Report @BleacherReport
Baker Mayfield to Baylor players pregame: "You forgot who daddy is. I’m gonna have to spank you today." (via @SoonerScoop) JFF part deaux |
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Darnold probably stays. |
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How successful that may be is an entirely different matter. |
Big matchup on Friday. Wazzu vs. USC. Falk vs. Darnold.
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Rosen has had the piss pounded out of him tonight. Will be interesting to see how much the Cardinal ****ed him up.
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Idiots - the lot of them. |
So far Falk is outplaying Darnold.
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Game ends when Darnold is strip sacked and Wazzu recovers!
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over/under on the Oklahoma State/Texas Tech showdown tonight? Rudolph and Shimonek should probably combine for at least 1000 yards passing lol.
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"Multiple headliner stars at the very top! As many as 10 QBs could get drafted by the end of the 4th round!" The one headliner star is probably going to stay in school. The others have had their ups and downs, and one of them (Allen) looks absolutely putrid. At best, your headliner stars in 2018 are all dudes with potential but pose a lot of red flags. Is there any guy in this class more "surefire" than anything we've seen recently? Jameis Winston? Mariota? Even Wentz? It's not looking like it. |
My favorite was the media reporting that "nobody at the combine is even talking about these QB's! Sam Darnold was the main talking point among everyone!".
We should actually thank them. The smart people in the league like Andy Reid, Sean Payton and Bruce Arians wanted him. Thank god the media didn't pump these guys up or one of the 9 teams in front of us probably would have taken Mahomes. |
Example why I think CP is smarter than a lot of NFL FO's
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From a thread on the 2018 class I started in early April:
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Clay, dude, you know I love you, but suck my ****ing dick. |
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Keep hearing from scouts who've made USC school calls that Darnold is going to stay in school</p>— Greg Gabriel (@greggabe) <a href="https://twitter.com/greggabe/status/914928291500511233?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
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So the 4 stud QBs so far:
Tribusky will start soon Kizer starts when he returns from injury Watson is starting now Mahomes continues marinating under Smith in KC This is really exciting. Watson looks every bit the stud I thought he'd be -- I look forward to his sophomore year next year when defenses key in on him more. Can he adjust? That was always the question with him, but I figured he could find a way. He's just an amazing talent that I wanted over Mahomes at the time. Kizer has looked alright, given the dumpster fire he's surrounded by. Reminds me a bit of Derek Carr in a way -- Carr walked into the disaster that was Oakland and didn't completely shit himself. I think Kizer's future could be similar. Tribusky really did look amazing in the preseason. High hopes for that kid. |
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May not avoid the Chargers though..... |
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No Darnold, Allen looks bad, Rosen is good but far from a generation talent.
Wait for 18 guyz! |
From DJ...
Josh Allen's skills on par with top NFL QBs, despite struggles
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Accuracy issues. Couldn't produce when talent around him decreased. Interceptions. blah blah. Same shit another guy. |
How is Allen a better talent coming out than Mahomes?
He looks shittier, plays against worse competition. Yet he's this prized QB based on his skill set and Mahomes is "TEXAS TECH AIR RAID DO NOT DRAFT!!!!" |
Ask 5: What's best NFL comp for Washington State's Luke Falk?
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I haven't watched any Washington State games in recent memory. Did Mike Leach suddenly turn over a new leaf? Won't his QBs have the same issues and concerns that his Texas Tech QBs did?
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Welp, Falk shit the bed this week. 4 ints and the game isn't over yet.
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I'm not a big fan of Falk. Doesn't seem like a fast enough decision maker if the Leach choice isn't open. Racks up a lot of sacks behind an actually decent line.
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And benched
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Yep. There is something off about him this year. He doesn't look like the same guy.
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A great class of QBs, guys!
I mean, Sam Darnold probably isn't going to declare. And with the possible exception of Rosen and Lamar Jackson, all of the projected QBs to go in the first 3 rounds have regressed. But so what? Deep class of QBs! |
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I can't wait to see what team is stupid enough to draft Josh Allen in the first round, even with shitty tape.
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His tape was a cum dumpster, and he still went in the 2nd round. That's why I am confident that Allen still goes early. All it takes is one team to ignore the tape. Thank god it won't be us. |
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Nick Camino
@NickCaminoWTAM Per @AlbertBreer, Sam Darnold will want to wait and see who has the top pick or two in the NFL Draft. If it's Browns, he could stay at USC. 1:25 PM ˇ Nov 1, 2017 |
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DJLN and I talked about it in the lounge but I think in terms of trading smith, the ideal situation is if cousins leaves Washington. He'd be a good fit there with Gruden as a bridge.
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I'd have to think Jacksonville and Cleveland are the two most likely trade spots. Jacksonville needs a vet QB to win now with that defense and Cleveland can't seem to draft a QB and need to become competitive - plus they have a slew of picks with extra 1, 2-2's, 3, 4, 5, 6....
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Vikings are the best place IMO. They only need a QB.
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We're so lucky they didn't wait for '18 to get Alex's replacement
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If talent that you believe in is there, step up and take it. The only drawback about QB1 or death is that you will from time to time get the Geno's and Barkley's. You'll also never miss the Lucks' and Mahomes. :) |
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