oh ok, sure thing DJ...of course there are variables
I could see your response coming from a mile a way

Yeah - I have a track record of making sense 'round here.

I guess you're fortunate for not having been saddled with such a burden.

it was just a question dude fgs...no reason to be insulting

Jones.

Jones is the 2nd best (maybe even best) DT in the league. He's a leader on the team, wants to win SB rings, and is the centerpiece of our defense.

Brown is middle of the pack at LT and last year wanted to be paid top 3 LT money, and probably isn't gonna budge from that price point either.

I don't care if it's LT, i would never pay Brown if it meant having to trade Jones.

I said 'I guess' - jeez....

That way of thinking doesnt really describe the situation the best way. Our O Line has 2 guys that are potential perennial All Pros and the D line only has Jones. A better way of phrasing it is

Brown - 3rd best player on this O Line

Jones - Could be argued that he was the best defensive player in the league and at worst is 3rd.

That shows the reality of the situation. Jones is a generational talent that was overshadowed by a once in a lifetime talent.

You're focusing too much on the journey rather than the destination.

Just admit it, you'd complain to your husband if he took a turn to the grocery store that you wouldn't take. :)

,,

Are you talking about A Donald here? im a little slow on the uptake in case you didnt know

Like DJ said, it won’t be an either/or situation. If they want to keep both, they will.

Yeah I was just answering the question proposed.

I'm on the record saying we shouldnt trade Jones. Thats a legit future HOFer and leader of our defense.

exactly.

sometimes it's hard to just answer a simple yes or no, left or tight type question with just yes or no or left or right.

he missed one.

should be 2

Mahomes and Kelce

Lots of buzz, the Athletic, ESPN, RGR etc. about the Chiefs have decided to give Jones his money. As long as the market doesn’t change on them like the WR market did last year.

Does he want Donald type of money?

He want to be the 2nd highest paid DT.

So like $30M.

I think he could be shopped by the team at that number. Stars and scrubs doesn’t work well.

Great plan. Hopefully with the picks they get, they can find someone who plays like and can put up Chris Jones numbers.

Pay Jones. Work the cap however but he deserves it. Tremendous Football player in the clutch.

They will pay Jones, and in the process his cap number this year will probably drop by about 10 Million

Well if they could find somebody to put up 3/4 of Chis Jones numbers under a rookie contract...

...that would be an incredible win.

Although I hope they find a way to keep him without having to lose too many other key players.

Veach will make him an offer. Probably not quite what he could get, but something that will make him one of the top-2 or -3 highest paid DTs. CJ will accept it, because he wants to remain a Chief and keep going to the SB.

He'll also restructure his pay for 2023, so Veach will have more cap space to work with.

Jones is the best DT in the league. It will be very hard to find anyone even close to him....especially at 31. Pay the man and move on. I'd give him 3/100 easily. Him and Snead need to be extended.

You get the money by not paying OBJ and getting your rookie there.

Again, they can sign both Jones and OBJ. They don't really need to sacrifice one for the other.

Snead is gonna be another 13-15M or so as well. Can't lose him.

Exactly how replacing Hill worked, right??

1 playoff sack. Did have the batted ball in 54.

So, kinda clutch but not really.

Sneed would be a much easier hole to fill than Jones. Sneed also has another year on his deal that doesn't need to be reworked (from the Chiefs standpoint) yet. They need to bring Jones number down this season.

The Hill and Jones situations aren't remotely the same though. Hill wasn't the best player on the offense. Jones is the best defensive player in the AFC. It's not really close.

[QUOTE=Cave Johnson;16834641]Exactly how replacing Hill worked, right??

/QUOTE]

Hill≠Jones

For a number of reasons. Mainly because we have Mahomes finding open receivers and making up for it. Jones due to his gravity is getting single looks for George and everyone else on the DL. He's also putting up 15 sacks despite those constant dbl and triple teams he sees.

Nothing similar to the Hill situation. Tyreek was never th3 best WR in the league. Chris Jones is best DT in the league and by a wide margin if Aaron Donald has fallen off. He's also 27.

He has two playoff sacks.

He tipped 3 balls in the 4th quarter of 54, which we probably lose the game without, and his pressure/hit in the first half caused Jimmy G to throw an INT with his eyes closed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntc6BqsRJJA

https://ftw.usatoday.com/wp-content/...0&h=600&crop=1

Anyone saying Jones isn't clutch has not watched a single playoff game this year.

Jones is fine with being second-highest paid, but OBJ wants to be highest paid. :hmmm:

The problem with this is that they traded Hill, not Mahomes.

Chris Jones is MUCH closer to the Mahomes of the defense than he is the Hill of the defense.

You don't trade guys like that.

I'd trade him...for a high first AND a low first or high second.

But that's it. And nobody's going to offer that.

So pay that man his money and get on with it.

GTFOH with that Q

You don't even read shit before you post....do you?

I wondered if cutting Clark and releasing OBJ was a sign we were going to go all in on Jones.

ROFL

The NFL needs Rodgers in New York. Chris can supplement his income by providing Aaron with more glamorous dick pic than Farvre

Really, there is no question. Jones!!!

His sack in the 4th against Burrow is the most clutch defensive play in Chiefs history.

You realize offenses plan their whole strategy around blocking and trying to neutralize Jones? And he still wrecks shit. Not a really good post dude..

We did not trade our most impactful player on offense last year. There's a good argument we traded our third most impactful player.

We would, most definitely, be trading our most impactful player on defense if we traded Jones.

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He doesn't seem to mind being in the back ground. On a lot of other teams, he'd be a super star. Although Donald didn't get the attention offensive players got

He’s living the dream. Guy’s going to earn well over $100m in his career and is still relatively obscure in the public eye.

Jones was a no-show at the mandatory mini-camp today. What’s taking so long with the contract? Is Veach going to let him walk next year.

If you have a stat that says Frank Clark has been better than Chris Jones in the post-season, it's a really worthless stat.

Jones has been an absolute monster in the playoffs. Even in the Patriots AFCCG he was the only guy actually making an impact from the DL.

He was gimpy vs. Tennessee but other than that, he has never been any worse than a good player in any post-season contest he's played in the Mahomes era (don't really care about pre-Mahomes, to be honest). And his game vs. Cincy last year is almost certainly the single greatest post-season defensive effort in Chiefs history.

I'd be shocked if a defender has ever had a more impactful effort in the post-season than Jones had in that game. He'll, apart from Derrick Thomas destroying Dave Kreig's soul, I'd be hard pressed to think of a single regular season effort from a Chiefs defensive player that was more dominant.

Chris Jones ate faces in that game.

Pay the man.

it needs to be this year. Next year Sneed, Bolton, Smith and Creed are all up for new contracts.

Gotta crunch the numbers so we can sign Hopkins

Holy shit, I missed this stupid shit. Go **** yourself you mongoloid.

We damn sure don't get home field advantage without Chris Jones. We probably don't get to the Super Bowl without him. I think people really underestimate just how valuable he was this year. Yeah, Patrick Mahomes is what makes this team go, but Chris Jones was almost just as important as Mahomes was this year.

Shoulda had us locked in at 15-2 after that sack on Matt Ice.

Also had a critical late sack against Allen to give us the ball back with the lead against Buffalo. Unfortunately, Von returned the favor on the next drive. On that note, the Bills losing Von turned out to be a major turning point of the season.

Yeah - you wanna see how the Chiefs defense would fare without Jones, take how the Bills defense looked without Miller and then turn that up to 11.

Jones is absolutely more valuable to the Chiefs D than Miller is to Buffalo's. And losing Miller was still enough to eventually crater their season.

Remember his "RTP" for hitting Brady's shoulder? Had that not been called I believe NE doesn't score on that drive (if memory serves me right) which means KC most likely wins that game. It was just a shame that he got screwed on a play like that.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Schefty saying on SportsCenter that the Chiefs plan on getting this extension with Chris Jones done as soon as possible in order to hopefully finalize something with Deandre Hopkins is only confirming everything I’ve been telling y’all for months.</p>&mdash; 🗣🎙‼️ (@LanceTHESPOKEN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LanceTHESPOKEN/status/1668741778747322368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That guy has never gotten anything right. he's a goof.

it’s ESPN’s Scheftner that’s saying those things today. That’s a legit source of NFL info. Doesn’t get more solid than his info.

He’s just pointing out he said it earlier.

So Schefter only told him that or is there a verifiable quote from Schefter saying it? I don't watch SC.

Schefter didn't mention anything about clearing space for DHop that I'm aware of......the next thing that dude Lance gets right will be the first thing he got right.

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What's that about?

He was at the BBQ fest

Translation: "We're out here at the BBQ fest and I just polished off 3 full slaps of the best BBQ ribs in America."

translation we out here

he is up hella early today

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wakey wakey</p>&mdash; Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1673260385779040260?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

hopefully working his signing muscles

lets go!

It’s a mat, with various conclusions on it, that you jump to.

I just read an article about Jones. His 65 career sacks are 8th in franchise history. He is within reach of 4th place (Houston) with another 15 sacks. He would have to reach 89.5 to tie Tamba and Smith. That's just crazy to mention him with those great pass rushers considering that they all did it from the edge and the did it from the DT position.

Unconfirmed rumor floating around out there that Chris Jones has the biggest chocolatey peen in the national football league. Has anyone else seen this?

I’ve seen it (the peen, not the rumor)

The legend started during the Roman empire.

Supposedly Jones is still in town for whatever that means. It’s the cold hard winter of the off season. What else is there to discuss?

Well my sister's best friend is friends with his agent (not a joke), and I know for a fact that he was in Miami last night.

maybe tomorrow it’s Olathe?

My uncles brothers best friends neighbor told me boots on the ground in Belize spotted him

Yo, DJBILL, we're needing the inside scoop on the Chris Jones contract extension.

Hell yeah we do! He's been spot on with everything so far!

Omg, he's either following in Reeks footsteps or went down to kill him!

But Schefter never said that. The dude is a dipshit.

To be clear, I'm saying the agent was in Miami, not CJ.

You can joke all you want.

This same girl was friends with Terrance Smith and I met him and he told me the Chiefs were one of the teams showing interest in him. I posted this in the draft forum before the draft.

Then we signed him as an UDFA.

Didn't Veach say there wouldn't be any business done until July, or am I misremembering something?