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-King- 07-07-2014 12:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 10734330)
Wanna hear something hilarious? Broussard is terrible. Again.

Because Bosh's max is 85 million so lol thanks Chris Broussard.
The rockets can give him 96 million.
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Kiimo 07-07-2014 12:41 PM
Why is that? I'm no expert.

BWillie 07-07-2014 12:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10733962)
Cavs will have 13m in cap space after they get rid of Deng, hawes, miles. Almost certainly these will be soon and trades which gives the cavs probably more picks and players who can be easily slashed. The cavs will dump Jarrett jack and may even give up a pick to do so. That gives the cavs about 20 mil.

From there, they have a few guys like Varejao, waiters, and Thompson who would undoubtedly be unloaded if they needed room for one player and they're each good for about 6 m in space. Cavs also traded for Brendan haywood so next year, even if the cavs are above the cap, they can cut Hayward and free up 10 mil. Cavs have tremendous cap flexibility to make a move for LeBron and still add to an already pretty talented roster.
Why would they get rid of Hawes? Seems to be an up and coming player

ChiefsCountry 07-07-2014 12:47 PM
Stephen A.'s take on the situation
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=11185177

dirk digler 07-07-2014 12:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10734345)
Why would they get rid of Hawes? Seems to be an up and coming player
he agreed in principle with the Clippers

Kiimo 07-07-2014 01:00 PM
I think 96m is Carmelo's max. Sorry I'm still in the camp of Broussard is a moron who has no idea what he's talking about.

-King- 07-07-2014 01:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 10734370)
I think 96m is Carmelo's max. Sorry I'm still in the camp of Broussard is a moron who has no idea what he's talking about.
Melo, Lebron, Bosh, and Wade all essentially have the same max contract numbers. All can resign with their teams for 5 year 129mil maxes or with other teams for 4 years 96mil.
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Kiimo 07-07-2014 01:14 PM
No the Heat have cap holds.

Edit: some other writer was wrong about this earlier in the week too.

-King- 07-07-2014 01:21 PM
http://www.spotrac.com/blog/understa...mum-contracts/

Here's how max contracts are figured. Bosh if he leaves Miami can and probably will get the full 4 year 96 mil max from his new team.
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penbrook 07-07-2014 01:21 PM
Heat just signed Josh Mcroberts

4 year 23 million

dirk digler 07-07-2014 01:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by penbook (Post 10734415)
Heat just signed Josh Mcroberts

4 year 22 million
Interesting. Could mean they think Bosh is gone but if the big 3 do return that is probably the most they can afford

-King- 07-07-2014 01:31 PM
The Heat are in trouble. Josh McRoberts and his career 5.7 points per game wouldn't get anyone to stay much less LeBron James.

saphojunkie 07-07-2014 01:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10734341)
The rockets can give him 96 million.
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@Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
Max offer from Houston to Bosh is 4 years, $88 million

ChiefsCountry 07-07-2014 01:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 10734423)
Interesting. Could mean they think Bosh is gone but if the big 3 do return that is probably the most they can afford
That is the MLE type money for McRoberts. Its about right in the scheme of things so far.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 07-07-2014 01:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by penbook (Post 10734415)
Heat just signed Josh Mcroberts

4 year 23 million
Hahahaha

Good job, Good effort!

#TrustInRiley

chiefzilla1501 07-07-2014 01:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10734345)
Why would they get rid of Hawes? Seems to be an up and coming player
If they truly have a shot at a max contract superstar, Hawes was a guy who didn't belong in their plans.

ShowtimeSBMVP 07-07-2014 01:40 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Danny Granger has agreed to a two-year, $4.2 million deal with the Miami Heat, reports <a href="https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA">@WojYahooNBA</a>.</p>&mdash; Brett Poirier NBA (@BrettNBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrettNBA/statuses/486232996005957632">July 7, 2014</a></blockquote>
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ChiefsCountry 07-07-2014 01:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss (Post 10734444)
Hahahaha

Good job, Good effort!

#TrustInRiley
Morey takes Bosh off Riley's hands and Riley lands Melo. Everybody wins.

-King- 07-07-2014 01:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10734435)
@Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
Max offer from Houston to Bosh is 4 years, $88 million
Yeah just read that. Bosh can get a 4 year 96 million, but the Rockets can only offer 80-85 million (According to Adrian Woj)

BigCatDaddy 07-07-2014 01:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by penbook (Post 10734415)
Heat just signed Josh Mcroberts

4 year 23 million
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10734451)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Danny Granger has agreed to a two-year, $4.2 million deal with the Miami Heat, reports <a href="https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA">@WojYahooNBA</a>.</p>&mdash; Brett Poirier NBA (@BrettNBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrettNBA/statuses/486232996005957632">July 7, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Lebron's going back to Miami. Rust Shack is going to lose his shit LMAO. He was for Lebron before he was against him before he was for him before he was against him. He's going to John Kerry this one.

-King- 07-07-2014 01:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10734451)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Danny Granger has agreed to a two-year, $4.2 million deal with the Miami Heat, reports <a href="https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA">@WojYahooNBA</a>.</p>&mdash; Brett Poirier NBA (@BrettNBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrettNBA/statuses/486232996005957632">July 7, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Yikes. That roster sucks.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 07-07-2014 01:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10734455)
Morey takes Bosh off Riley's hands and Riley lands Melo. Everybody wins.
Or they get Pau and Ariza

ChiefsCountry 07-07-2014 01:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss (Post 10734465)
Or they get Pau and Ariza
I could live with that as well.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 07-07-2014 01:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10734460)
Yikes. That roster sucks.
Replacing broke dicks with broke dicks.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 07-07-2014 01:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10734467)
I could live with that as well.
But could LeBron?

DaKCMan AP 07-07-2014 01:48 PM
@ByTimReynolds: Here we go, folks. There's more than Granger and McRoberts, too.

penbrook 07-07-2014 01:50 PM
LeBron James and Danny Granger play the same position, do the math.

dirk digler 07-07-2014 01:51 PM
Granger is pretty much done IMO. He was horrible with the Clippers. I guess Lewis will be gone

DaKCMan AP 07-07-2014 01:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by penbook (Post 10734478)
LeBron James and Danny Granger play the same position, do the math.
:LOL:

Granger = bench

-King- 07-07-2014 01:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 10734473)
@ByTimReynolds: Here we go, folks. There's more than Granger and McRoberts, too.
Using what money? Any more money they use will cut into LeBrons, Bosh's, or Wades salaries.

DaKCMan AP 07-07-2014 01:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10734484)
Using what money? Any more money they use will cut into LeBrons, Bosh's, or Wades salaries.
They're not all signing for the max.

McRob = MLE
Granger = LLE

Norris Cole trade gets another guy for ~$2.2M

ChiefsCountry 07-07-2014 01:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 10734480)
Granger is pretty much done IMO. He was horrible with the Clippers. I guess Lewis will be gone
Granger is filling the Rashard Lewis/James Jones spot on the bench. Nothing more, nothing less.

Besides the Heat have this young guy that was stashed over in Australia this past season - James Ennis. Tore up the Australian league and so far doing the same in the Summer League. He is that 8-9 guy off the bench with some youth that Miami is looking for.

DaKCMan AP 07-07-2014 01:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10734488)
Granger is filling the Rashard Lewis/James Jones spot on the bench. Nothing more, nothing less.

Besides the Heat have this young guy that was stashed over in Australia this past season - James Ennis. Tore up the Australian league and so far doing the same in the Summer League. He is that 8-9 guy off the bench with some youth that Miami is looking for.
Expect Ennis, Hamilton, and Napier to all make the roster this year.

KC native 07-07-2014 01:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 10734492)
Expect Ennis, Hamilton, and Napier to all make the roster this year.
And expect them to lose to the Spurs again this year too.

dirk digler 07-07-2014 01:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10734488)
Granger is filling the Rashard Lewis/James Jones spot on the bench. Nothing more, nothing less.

Besides the Heat have this young guy that was stashed over in Australia this past season - James Ennis. Tore up the Australian league and so far doing the same in the Summer League. He is that 8-9 guy off the bench with some youth that Miami is looking for.
Yeah from what people are saying it is a 1 - year deal with a player option for the second.

ChiefsCountry 07-07-2014 02:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 10734495)
Yeah from what people are saying it is a 1 - year deal with a player option for the second.
Its the LLE on Granger.

-King- 07-07-2014 02:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 10734487)
They're not all signing for the max.
Yes. That's understood. And even with Wade and Bosh taking discounts, they still didn't have much to work with.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 07-07-2014 02:05 PM
So can the Rockets get Bosh and still match Parsons if needed? Why am I so dumb? RFA pisses me off

DaKCMan AP 07-07-2014 02:07 PM
Granger is 1yr with player option for 2nd.
McRoberts is 3yr with player option for 4th.

DaKCMan AP 07-07-2014 02:08 PM
@ESPNSteinLine: Heat strike deals with Josh McRoberts and, according to @WojYahooNBA, Danny Granger. LeBron, I'm told, was made aware of McRoberts pursuit

dirk digler 07-07-2014 02:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10734505)
Its the LLE on Granger.
Ira Winderman is saying they have $2.2 million dollar trade exception left so this signifies to me all 3 are coming back. I don't think Riley would sign these trash players if they weren't.

DaKCMan AP 07-07-2014 02:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 10734530)
Ira Winderman is saying they have $2.2 million dollar trade exception left so this signifies to me all 3 are coming back. I don't think Riley would sign these trash players if they weren't.
I don't see Riley signing McRoberts or Granger without Lebron coming back. Wouldn't make any sense.

Yes - they have a $2.2m trade exception from the Joel Anthony trade and they also can move Norris Cole for another player.

ChiefsCountry 07-07-2014 02:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 10734530)
Ira Winderman is saying they have $2.2 million dollar trade exception left so this signifies to me all 3 are coming back. I don't think Riley would sign these trash players if they weren't.
That is the Joel Anthony trade exception. I believe its either Anthony Morrow or Shawn Marion who they are targeting with that.

DaKCMan AP 07-07-2014 02:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10734541)
That is the Joel Anthony trade exception. I believe its either Anthony Morrow or Shawn Marion who they are targeting with that.
Morrow, Marion, or Caron Butler.

The Bad Guy 07-07-2014 02:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 10734183)
Wojnarowski said Love wasn't there and the UCLA AD who tweeted it deleted his tweet about it.
Just because he deleted the tweet, doesn't mean he wasn't there.

It's just odd that there were numerous employees of the university all saying the same thing, and then suddenly they all delete the tweets.

dirk digler 07-07-2014 02:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 10734536)
I don't see Riley signing McRoberts or Granger without Lebron coming back. Wouldn't make any sense.

Yes - they have a $2.2m trade exception from the Joel Anthony trade and they also can move Norris Cole for another player.
I agree.

GloryDayz 07-07-2014 02:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC native (Post 10734094)
I hope LeBron leaves Miami. Shit would be great for trolling.
Meh....

BigCatDaddy 07-07-2014 02:33 PM
Cleveland just date raped twice by the same guy. That vagina is wounded for life.

Mr_Tomahawk 07-07-2014 02:41 PM
But the deal is done with LBJ to the cavs.

CP said so last night.

RustShack 07-07-2014 03:09 PM
These deals still don't make the Heat better than set year, even if Bosh stays which it's looking like he won't.

It's been reported that the Cavs have been especially active in trade conversations, and insiders within the organization expect a big move soon.

KC native 07-07-2014 03:12 PM
PLEASE LET LBJ GO BACK TO THE CAVS!

RustShack 07-07-2014 03:22 PM
LeBrons agent is pressuring him to the Cavs, his wife wants him to go to Cleveland. Cleveland is younger, more athletic, has more depth, and has a lot more assets to keep improving. His best shot at a dynasty and long term success is in Cleveland. Also winning a Championship(s) there would be a lot more meaningful and make him even more legendary.

DaKCMan AP 07-07-2014 03:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10734699)
LeBrons agent is pressuring him to the Cavs, his wife wants him to go to Cleveland. Cleveland is younger, more athletic, has more depth, and has a lot more assets to keep improving. His best shot at a dynasty and long term success is in Cleveland. Also winning a Championship(s) there would be a lot more meaningful and make him even more legendary.
I'm glad you've convinced yourself.

dirk digler 07-07-2014 03:25 PM
This should be obvious..

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 3 minutes ago
No guarantees made, but Danny Granger/Josh McRoberts committed to Heat w/ strong belief LeBron James will be a teammate, sources tell Yahoo.

ChiefsCountry 07-07-2014 03:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10734699)
LeBrons agent is pressuring him to the Cavs, his wife wants him to go to Cleveland. Cleveland is younger, more athletic, has more depth, and has a lot more assets to keep improving. His best shot at a dynasty and long term success is in Cleveland. Also winning a Championship(s) there would be a lot more meaningful and make him even more legendary.
http://cdn.frontpagemag.com/wp-conte...aghdad-Bob.jpg

BWillie 07-07-2014 03:28 PM
One thing is certain, Lebron will not be a Cav. If Rustshak and Broussard are saying so, im certain hes going elsewhere

KC native 07-07-2014 03:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10734707)
One thing is certain, Lebron will not be a Cav. If Rustshak and Broussard are saying so, im certain hes going elsewhere
SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH!

I want Rustshack to be right about something for a change. It would be good for the guy.

Kiimo 07-07-2014 03:30 PM
Yeah his best chance is at a place with a bunch of kids not the team he just went to the finals with. All the Heat need to do is improve their bench and it appears they are.

dirk digler 07-07-2014 03:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 10734711)
Yeah his best chance is at a place with a bunch of kids not the team he just went to the finals with. All the Heat need to do is improve their bench and it appears they are.
Their bench looks the same or maybe worse right now. Have to see what other moves they make. McRoberts is a decent player but he has been on like 5-6 teams, Granger is finished. The problem is who is going to relieve James of his minutes? I know they are chasing Morrow but OKC is in the lead for him. I assume Ray Allen will return but they will still need to address their 2 biggest needs (PG and C). Unless they think Napier can be Rondo part #2

Pitt Gorilla 07-07-2014 03:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 10734530)
Ira Winderman is saying they have $2.2 million dollar trade exception left so this signifies to me all 3 are coming back. I don't think Riley would sign these trash players if they weren't.
why would trash players make the team more attractive to lbj?

DaKCMan AP 07-07-2014 03:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 10734711)
Yeah his best chance is at a place with a bunch of kids not the team he just went to the finals with. All the Heat need to do is improve their bench and it appears they are.
Exactly. Four straight Finals. The Cavs aren't ready for that yet. It's more likely that Lebron would go back in 2 years (assuming he only re-ups in MIA through 2016). Kyrie is great but he misses 22 games/yr. Wiggins hasn't proven shit yet. The kid's 19. He has to mature.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 10734721)
Their bench looks the same or maybe worse right now. Have to see what other moves they make. McRoberts is a decent player but he has been on like 5-6 teams, Granger is finished. The problem is who is going to relieve James of his minutes? I know they are chasing Morrow but OKC is in the lead for him. I assume Ray Allen will return but they will still need to address their 2 biggest needs (PG and C). Unless they think Napier can be Rondo part #2
McRoberts is a younger, bigger, more athletic replacement for Battier. I think they'll add a vet. PG (Jameer, Blake) but I don't see them upgrading at C, unfortunately.

Granger is likely an end-of-bench guy.

-King- 07-07-2014 03:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 10734711)
Yeah his best chance is at a place with a bunch of kids not the team he just went to the finals with. All the Heat need to do is improve their bench and it appears they are.
You think the Heat are a better team than the Cavs in what way? The 2nd best player is someone who played only 52 games last year and was still ass in the playoffs!
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-King- 07-07-2014 03:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 10734745)
Exactly. Four straight Finals. The Cavs aren't ready for that yet. It's more likely that Lebron would go back in 2 years (assuming he only re-ups in MIA through 2016). Kyrie is great but he misses 22 games/yr. Wiggins hasn't proven shit yet. The kid's 19. He has to mature.



McRoberts is a younger, bigger, more athletic replacement for Battier. I think they'll add a vet. PG (Jameer, Blake) but I don't see them upgrading at C, unfortunately.

Granger is likely an end-of-bench guy.
If Kyrie massing 22 games is bad, then what about Wade missing 30?
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DaKCMan AP 07-07-2014 03:57 PM
@EthanJSkolnick For all the Chris Bosh reports out there, I keep checking back and keep hearing same: he intends to be in Miami.

DaKCMan AP 07-07-2014 03:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10734752)
You think the Heat are a better team than the Cavs in what way? The 2nd best player is someone who played only 52 games last year and was still ass in the playoffs!
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You're right. A team of children is better than a team that has gone to four straight NBA Finals.

-King- 07-07-2014 04:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 10734762)
You're right. A team of children is better than a team that has gone to four straight NBA Finals.
...um they went to 4 straight finals because of Lebron.
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DaKCMan AP 07-07-2014 04:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10734767)
...um they went to 4 straight finals because of Lebron.
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Yes, Lebron is/was the best player on the best team in the East.

-King- 07-07-2014 04:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 10734771)
Yes, Lebron is/was the best player on the best team in the East.
And if he was on the Cavs, they'd be the best team in the east. Better team than the heat as a matter of fact.

But hey if they don't make a major upgrade and lebron resigns with them, you can't blame his supporting cast last season or any future season for him not winning.
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DaKCMan AP 07-07-2014 04:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10734782)
And if he was on the Cavs, they'd be the best team in the east. Better team than the heat as a matter of fact.

But hey if they don't make a major upgrade and lebron resigns with them, you can't blame his supporting cast last season or any future season for him not winning.
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The Cavs will be good if Lebron goes, but they won't be title contenders next year with their current + Lebron. They're not ready yet.

RustShack 07-07-2014 04:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC native (Post 10734710)
SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH!

I want Rustshack to be right about something for a change. It would be good for the guy.
I've been right about everything Iowa State basketball so far.

lcarus 07-07-2014 04:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 10734786)
The Cavs will be good if Lebron goes, but they won't be title contenders next year with their current + Lebron. They're not ready yet.
I think they would be. Who else in the east is worth a shit?

RustShack 07-07-2014 04:25 PM
LeBron also took the Cavs with a roster 10x worse than the current one to the finals, so it's a moot point. Not to mention LeBron is even better now than he was then.

Irving now > Wade now
Bosh is leaving
Who else do they have??

Waiters, Varejao, Thompson

Still not writing off Bennett who was hurt and had to deal with Mike Brown and a team that was disgruntled with the whole situation.

Oh and Andrew Wiggins. Not to mention we have the Heats first round pick next year and I even think someone else's.

saphojunkie 07-07-2014 04:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10734792)
I've been right about everything Iowa State basketball so far.
You've been a giant delusional boil on the ass of humanity about everything Iowa State basketball.

Al Bundy 07-07-2014 04:30 PM
Looks like no Channing Frye to Golden State...
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Yahoo Sources: Free agent Channing Frye agrees on a four-year, $32 million deal with the Orlando Magic. <a href="http://t.co/2neWPEMjl0">http://t.co/2neWPEMjl0</a></p>&mdash; Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/statuses/486273763877466114">July 7, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Kiimo 07-07-2014 04:31 PM
Isn't that the guy claiming up and down that Iowa State was destined for the Big 12 season champion last year?

saphojunkie 07-07-2014 04:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10734752)
You think the Heat are a better team than the Cavs in what way? The 2nd best player is someone who played only 52 games last year and was still ass in the playoffs!
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Uh... the Heat were in the Finals and the Cavs had the first overall pick. WTF is wrong with people? It's unbelievable.

Kiimo 07-07-2014 04:33 PM
Anthony Bennett is what Wade only dreams to be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lt3Xw_8oMI

The Bad Guy 07-07-2014 04:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 10734786)
The Cavs will be good if Lebron goes, but they won't be title contenders next year with their current + Lebron. They're not ready yet.
That's absurd.

-King- 07-07-2014 04:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10734838)
Uh... the Heat were in the Finals and the Cavs had the first overall pick. WTF is wrong with people? It's unbelievable.
Do people watch basketball? The heat were in the finals ONLY because of LeBron James. Put Lebron o. Any other team in the East and they would have made the Finals too.
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The Bad Guy 07-07-2014 04:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10734838)
Uh... the Heat were in the Finals and the Cavs had the first overall pick. WTF is wrong with people? It's unbelievable.
If LeBron is on the Cavs, they are a better team than the Heat.

This isn't even debatable even if Wade/Bosh stay in Miami.


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