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hawkchief 12-24-2009 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 6373463)
I don't think we'll fall that far - still in the Top 10-15 imo.

Congrats on the RPI award for the first month of the season! Make sure to get a banner up.

Small steps grapes, small steps.

ChiTown 12-24-2009 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hawkchief (Post 6376196)
Congrats on the RPI award for the first month of the season! Make sure to get a banner up.

Small steps grapes, small steps.

Ahh.


I think it's cute how CockThief can't stay out of a Kansas State thread. Watching CockThief enter into these threads is like watching the reeruns lick the windows on the Short Bus.

WilliamTheIrish 12-25-2009 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6374869)
No. That doesn't happen there. Only in our place with the angry coach and the angrier fan base.

Skip did not approve of this comment!

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***The Official EMAW... 12-23-2009 11:40 PM Skip Towne I wonder how mouthy you would be if your team actually won something.
Old Scrooge in the holiday spirit. LMAO

WilliamTheIrish 12-26-2009 04:17 PM

http://cjonline.com/sports/basketbal...to_slower_lane

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MIAMI — There was a time, and it wasn't long ago, where Michael Beasley would blow through $20,000 in a night, awaken and want to do it again. Spend fast, drive fast, party fast.

He was an NBA millionaire, living like repercussions need not apply, trusting almost everybody, listening to almost nobody.

And then, he insists, two people changed his ways without saying a word.

The Miami Heat forward says he decided to try escaping his destructive patterns because of his children — Mikaiya, his 7-month-old daughter, and Pierce, his 4-month-old son.

"They're everything to me," said Beasley, who revitalized interest in the Kansas State program during his one season in Manhattan.

Beasley knows it sounds cliche, and doesn't care. When 2009 began, he was on the cusp of becoming out of control, with priorities driven way out of whack by his own apparent inability to handle the combination of acquiring copious riches and copious fame in a short time.

He spent much of the summer in a rehabilitation facility getting treatment for substance abuse, particularly marijuana, and endured the indignity of having to deal with that delicate situation in a very public manner.

As the year ends, he says everything is different.

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His is a nontraditional family. Beasley's kids are in South Florida, living with their respective mothers in separate residences, but he can see them daily when the Heat are home. He monitors spending like never before, checking credit reports and credit card bills regularly, and laments not having more already stashed in his savings account.

A big night out typically involves video games and crashing on teammate Daequan Cook's sofa. And the NBA game is slowing down for him, too.

Michael Beasley, all of 20 years old, says he's growing up.

"People think maybe I cleaned my act up for the moment," Beasley said. "But I know that if I were to mess up again, everything in my past would be brought up. I'm a whole lot slower now. Not on the court, but I move slow. I take life by strides now. I'm more relaxed than I was. I was a fast motor, the Energizer bunny, got to be here, here, here, every party. Now I sit on my bed and watch Roseanne."

And he says he doesn't miss the fast-lane lifestyle.

"Not one bit," Beasley said, without hesitation.

Beasley went through — put himself through — more this year than some people will deal with in a lifetime.

He said this fall that one more strike against him would have led to a suspension through the NBA substance-abuse policy, which means he already had two strikes. His parents both made headlines for things they posted on Twitter, the social networking site that Beasley used to get himself in trouble through his words and a link to the now-infamous tattoo photo that some thought captured a bag of marijuana on a nearby table.

He found his role with the Heat, becoming a full-time starter at forward. He became a father twice by two women. He didn't remain romantically involved with either woman, but works with both to raise his children in what he hopes is the right way. That is especially important to him because his father wasn't always around. He got stronger, physically and mentally.

That's a full year.

"He put the scarlet letter on his back, himself. And he's got to deal with it," Heat president Pat Riley said last week. "And he's dealing with it as best as a 20-year-old can deal with it. We're helping him, facilitating everything we can to help him and all of our players, to limit whatever kind of load is out there so he can concentrate."

Even those who really know Beasley can find themselves wondering exactly who he is at times.

Is he the goof who sings "I don't wanna grow up, I'm a Toys R' Us kid," in the locker room after a game? The guy who wowed the Heat by once sitting down at a piano and starting to play without warning, even though he hadn't taken a lesson in years? The homebody who can rip cars and computers apart and usually put them back together? The budding artist who wants to finish a mural of his teammates by season's end? The addict who needed rehab and flies in someone he met during rehab once a month to play chess?

Try all the above.

And Beasley's basketball game is better for it, too.

"He's playing great right now," Orlando coach Stan Van Gundy said. "I thought even last year, look, he was up and down like rookies will be, but scoring is easy for him. It comes very naturally, very easily, even against good defense. He can get a good shot anytime he gets the ball. ... On defense, I don't think he's at the point where you can go in and just pick on him at the other end of the floor.

"He's made great strides."

___

Amid all the off-the-court changes that went into Beasley's reinvention, his work ethic on the floor may be better than ever.

Throughout high school, AAU basketball, even his one year at Kansas State, there weren't many people who could guard the left-handed Beasley. In the NBA, the 6-foot-10 native of Frederick, Md., started finally playing with people better than him, a new and humbling experience.

So he got busy. He could not play defense the way an NBA player should when Miami chose him No. 2 in the 2008 draft, not even close, and he didn't seem necessarily bothered by that when his pro career began. Now, when he gets beat or blows a defensive assignment, Beasley gets demonstrably upset with himself and bears down even harder at both ends of the floor.

"Playing like that, that's the Bob McAdoo in me," Beasley said, referring to the Hall of Famer and Heat assistant coach. "I pick his brain all the time. He tells me, 'Don't let anybody score, and if they score, you get one right back.' Not a bad way to play at all for me."

He is averaging 15.5 points and 7.0 rebounds, both ahead of last year's pace, and he'll play in an NBA Christmas Day game for the first time Friday when Miami visits the New York Knicks.

Beasley listens now. That didn't happen a year ago.

It's just another sign of the maturation process.

"When you have kids, you grow a lot faster than you normally would," said Cook, Beasley's close friend and another young father. "You've got to mature a lot faster. He understands what you can and can't do now that you have kids. You have to be a role model for them. You're their father, they look up to you a lot more. Having kids, I think everything's a lot slower, a lot smoother for him now."

___

Part of the rehab experience involved Beasley being forced to think about his future, about his kids, and how he would provide if the NBA riches all went away — one of the countless reasons why he says he's now embracing a life of sobriety.

Yes, he has a lot of cars, at least half a dozen. He said last year he had more televisions in his house than he had rooms. He likes nice clothes, new gadgets, things like that, and his $4.9 million salary this season allows for plenty of fun.

Then he came to realize, $35,000 worth of partying in a weekend, that tends to add up quickly.

"When I first started getting paychecks, you couldn't tell me anything," Beasley said. "December of last year, I looked at my savings and I had money but I didn't have as much as I want. That's when it hit me: If I keep spending at this rate, I'm going to be one of those players they talk about."

Now? He swears, he's not that guy anymore.

Beasley rarely misses a chance to say how appreciative he is that the Heat, Riley, coach Erik Spoelstra and teammates stood by him during the rehab fallout. At the same time, he believes there's people out there waiting for him to fail, to go back to drugs, to parties, to see if he'll waste the unbelievable opportunity the NBA provides.

That's when he thinks of Mikaiya, thinks of Pierce. And everything, in those moments, seems right for Michael Beasley.

"My future is up to me," Beasley said. "Their future depends on me. I don't take anything more seriously

WilliamTheIrish 12-26-2009 04:27 PM

Frank's awesome: Love the guy.

http://cjonline.com/sports/basketbal...amiliar_mantra

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MANHATTAN — If you follow Kansas State sports, the phrase should have a familiar ring.

Typically, though, it comes from a different source.

"I'm trying to get better every day," coach Frank Martin said.

That was and is the mantra of football coach Bill Snyder, who built K-State into a national contender in the 1990s. Halfway through his third season, Martin appears to have the basketball program moving in the same direction.

The Wildcats are 11-1 and ranked 12th in the nation heading into Christmas break, which Martin uses to designate the halfway point of the season.

Martin, again channeling his football counterpart, said he wasted no energy trying to predict where K-State would be at this juncture.

"I ain't bright enough to look at our schedule and say, 'Middle of December, let's be the 12th-ranked team, let's be 11-1,'" he said. "I think people who think that way are setting themselves up for failure. I could be wrong, but that's what I think.

"All I care about is the day that I'm living, getting better today, and being as prepared as I can so we can improve a little more tomorrow. That's how I think."

Can't argue with the approach. The Wildcats currently sit at No. 2 in the RPI, and their nonconference resume includes wins against Xavier, Dayton and UNLV.

The challenge now becomes steering clear of the hype.

"I don't know how many people on the team check that stuff," guard Jacob Pullen said. "For us now, it's just a matter of preparing for each day. No letdowns."

In hindsight, the watershed moment came after a lackluster performance against Fort Hays State on Dec. 1. Martin issued a public challenge to his team, and it was apparent the Wildcats could go one of two directions.

K-State responded with its best stretch of basketball, recording consecutive wins against Washington State, Xavier, UNLV and Alabama.

"After Fort Hays State, I guess I questioned whether some guys wanted to be here," Martin said. "They've proven to me that they do. We've got a locker room full of guys that are committed to growing and getting better."

The strength of the team, as expected, has been its balance. Jacob Pullen has emerged as the go-to scorer at 20 points per game, but teammates Denis Clemente, Curtis Kelly and Jamar Samuels also average double figures.

"Offensively, I think we continue to do a better job of passing the ball," Martin said. "We've got balance. We've got numerous guys that have scored the basketball for us at different times in the year."

The hot start has elevated K-State's national profile and established the Wildcats as a darkhorse contender in the Big 12 race. But all of that will be history by the time the Wildcats return from Christmas break, Martin said.

"When we get back on the 26th, we break everything down again and start from scratch," Martin said. "You've got your pre-Christmas season and your post-Christmas season. We'll get after it again on the 26th."

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Not too shabby.

WilliamTheIrish 12-28-2009 06:27 PM

Latest video from K-Statesports.com


http://www.frankmartinbasketball.com/tradition/

DeezNutz 12-28-2009 06:35 PM

Really unprofessional question. Uncalled for.

It's good!

Dante84 12-28-2009 06:44 PM

?

WilliamTheIrish 12-28-2009 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6386763)
Really unprofessional question. Uncalled for.

It's good!

F'ing outstanding! LMAO

Saulbadguy 12-28-2009 08:46 PM

#12 in both polls today. Cleveland State tomorrow.

hawkchief 12-28-2009 09:17 PM

It must suck to have your highest ranking in decades, only to still find yourselves light-years behind your big brother, Kansas University- yet again. Such a pity :(

WilliamTheIrish 12-28-2009 09:38 PM

C'mon, tell us again phogtard, how Frank is a terrible coach. Owning you is priceless.

You coming into this thread is tantamount to a kegel by a vagina so great in scope, it could draw tectonic plates together.

But being the all powerful EMAWomnipotent Wildcat fan I am, I'll allow you to continue to make a fool of yourself.

hawkchief 12-28-2009 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6387221)
C'mon, tell us again phogtard, how Frank is a terrible coach. Owning you is priceless.

You coming into this thread is tantamount to a kegel by a vagina so great in scope, it could draw tectonic plates together.

But being the all powerful EMAWomnipotent Wildcat fan I am, I'll allow you to continue to make a fool of yourself.

Care to point out anything non-factual in my post?

Didn't think so :)

Mojo Jojo 12-28-2009 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by hawkchief (Post 6387130)
It must suck to have your highest ranking in decades, only to still find yourselves light-years behind your big brother, Kansas University- yet again. Such a pity :(

Really...Kansas University. It is The University Of Kansas. Anyone who went there knows that. If you have a diploma it is from The University Of Kansas.

You are such a want to be.

hawkchief 12-28-2009 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo (Post 6387271)
Really...Kansas University. It is The University Of Kansas. Anyone who went there knows that. If you have a diploma it is from The University Of Kansas.

You are such a want to be.

Regardless of how you need to say it, when you add "State" to any university, i.e. Kansas "State" University", it immediately conveys inferiority - that's a well-know fact. (Since you brought it up).

doomy3 12-28-2009 10:05 PM

I've wondered this for a while, so hopefully someone can help me.

What does EMAW stand for?

Mojo Jojo 12-28-2009 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by hawkchief (Post 6387293)
Regardless of how you need to say it, when you add "State" to any university, i.e. Kansas "State" University", it immediately conveys inferiority - that's a well-know fact. (Since you brought it up).

Sure...The Ohio State University is inferior to Ohio University. Thanks for clearing that up.

WilliamTheIrish 12-28-2009 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hawkchief (Post 6387235)
Care to point out anything non-factual in my post?

Didn't think so :)

Sure.
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It must suck to have your highest ranking in decades,
Why would it suck for KSU and their fans to have their highest ranking in decades? Only a complete moran (cp spelling) would think that.

You keep exercising those pelvic floor muscles. I don't want you having to blot after tossing roses on the court for Sherron on Sr. day.

DeezNutz 12-28-2009 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6387221)
C'mon, tell us again phogtard, how Frank is a terrible coach. Owning you is priceless.

You coming into this thread is tantamount to a kegel by a vagina so great in scope, it could draw tectonic plates together.

But being the all powerful EMAWomnipotent Wildcat fan I am, I'll allow you to continue to make a fool of yourself.

Boy was my initial read of FM wrong as hell.

I didn't think that dude would last much past year 1. Figured he'd either get fired b/c of his antics or die on the court. Good for Cat fans, though. Hope Martin continues to enjoy success. In interviews, he comes off as a pretty cool guy.

Big XII conference play is going to be fun this season.

58kcfan89 12-29-2009 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6387314)
I've wondered this for a while, so hopefully someone can help me.

What does EMAW stand for?

Every Man A Wildcat.


And for anyone that can't see the Cleveland St. game tomorrow or can't/doesn't want to listen to Wyattvision, I'll be at Bramlage calling it for the K-State student station.

If you wanna listen, go to this link to listen online (or if you're in Manhattan, turn it to 91.9 FM). We'll probably go on-air around 20 minutes before tip.

http://www.wildcat919.com/listen.php

EMAW.

Dante84 12-29-2009 01:22 AM

Go State!

Dante84 12-29-2009 05:31 PM

Gameday bump

kstater 12-29-2009 05:44 PM

Looks like a 360 game tonight.


I'm so glad my carrier picked it up this year.

Dante84 12-29-2009 06:01 PM

Isnt it on Fox something or other also?

kitten_mittons 12-29-2009 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 6390099)
Isnt it on Fox something or other also?

Fox sports kansas city.

Dante84 12-29-2009 06:05 PM

Shit... i dont get that. And I'm in ****ing Kansas City.

Looks like I get to watch Pullen hit the three with the same gritty internet quality as Peter North's long shots as well.

kitten_mittons 12-29-2009 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 6390108)
Shit... i dont get that. And I'm in ****ing Kansas City.

Looks like I get to watch Pullen hit the three with the same gritty internet quality as Peter North's long shots as well.

You don't have directv?

WilliamTheIrish 12-29-2009 06:25 PM

FSKC is also a cable affiliated channel folks.

kitten_mittons 12-29-2009 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6390141)
FSKC is also a cable affiliated channel folks.

I assumed that, but I didn't know since I don't have cable.

kstater 12-29-2009 07:14 PM

It's always funny watching Kelly bring it up the floor. He's going to have to slow it up in league play to avoid the immediate give back.

kstater 12-29-2009 07:17 PM

That ball wasn't going down?

kstater 12-29-2009 07:19 PM

Under 16:

KSU 6
Cleveland State(CSU) 6

kstater 12-29-2009 07:30 PM

Under 12:

KSU 15
CSU 12

Biting tongue, that was not a weak foul on that block.

WilliamTheIrish 12-29-2009 07:42 PM

Wyatt-vision is bad. Stanbot vision is bad bad.

kstater 12-29-2009 07:42 PM

There's the run:

KSU 25
CSU 14

WilliamTheIrish 12-29-2009 07:45 PM

Bombs away -showing the jerseys of Evans and Williams.

WilliamTheIrish 12-29-2009 07:47 PM

Fear the beard. Jake from 24.

31-14

kstater 12-29-2009 07:47 PM

Apparently this is a weak crowd.

WilliamTheIrish 12-29-2009 07:51 PM

"Varm it dar tractor, kell varnsen"*

*Norwegian version

kstater 12-29-2009 07:54 PM

Under 4:

KSU 35
CSU 16

WilliamTheIrish 12-29-2009 07:56 PM

Jake drains another. 38-16

Old Dog 12-29-2009 07:57 PM

Up by 22 with 3 to go in the first half. I figured it would be a better game than this. These guys took West Virginia to the wire.

WilliamTheIrish 12-29-2009 07:57 PM

Cats 4-8 from three land.

kstater 12-29-2009 07:57 PM

Pullen with the block.

WilliamTheIrish 12-29-2009 08:00 PM

Is Frank going to get serious? I heard Bill Self was getting serious.

Old Dog 12-29-2009 08:02 PM

HOly Schnikes....Pullen just shot that one from down near Varney's

WilliamTheIrish 12-29-2009 08:03 PM

Frank looks serious. Very serious. It's all about being serious.

kstater 12-29-2009 08:04 PM

Halftime:

KSU 40
CSU 19

kstater 12-29-2009 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6390424)
Is Frank going to get serious? I heard Bill Self was getting serious.

Frank's going to step on the gas.

Saulbadguy 12-29-2009 08:19 PM

Bramlage is full. Great crowd tonight.

WilliamTheIrish 12-29-2009 08:26 PM

No FG's this half in 3+ minutes

WilliamTheIrish 12-29-2009 08:26 PM

JAMSLAM w/ the two.

WilliamTheIrish 12-29-2009 08:26 PM

Lou took a shot to the coin purse to end that series.

WilliamTheIrish 12-29-2009 08:29 PM

Totals FG 13-27 3pt 4-11 FT 13-17
Percentages: .481 .364 .765

WilliamTheIrish 12-29-2009 08:41 PM

58-28. Frank is just not serious enough.

WilliamTheIrish 12-29-2009 08:49 PM

Lou with his 10th board in 16 minutes.

WilliamTheIrish 12-29-2009 09:14 PM

Lou has missed about three putbacks. I know he's not a scorer, but those were all dunks if he's a just flushed em.

I can forgive a guy who has 12 boards and 4 fouls.

WilliamTheIrish 12-29-2009 09:18 PM

85-56. Can't complain. 6 in double figures.

About the only thing that bothered the team tonight was the triangle/2 defense and for a brief period the box/1. Cats kinda struggled a bit with that.

WilliamTheIrish 12-29-2009 09:20 PM

Frank made Stanbot very uncomfortable;


Stanbot: "Coach what do the young guys need to do to get better"?

Frank: "Well Stan(bot) ... (they need to) GROW UP! How about that, Stan"?

Stan nearly died.

WilliamTheIrish 12-29-2009 09:25 PM

At halftime the Cats were 13-17 from the FT line. Finished 26-40. Outrebounded CSU 46-25.

Dante84 12-29-2009 09:27 PM

Damn.... I keep waiting for us to blow, but it just doesn't come. Yet at least.

WHO IS THIS TEAM AND WHAT HAVE THEY DONE WITH K-STATE??!??

big nasty kcnut 12-29-2009 09:27 PM

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Dante84 01-02-2010 05:43 PM

MANHATTAN, Kan. - Head coach Frank Martin was honored for Kansas State's terrific start to the season on Thursday, as CollegeInsider.com named him the Jim Phelan award winner as the mid-season National Coach of the Year.

Martin has K-State off to its best start since the 1958-59 season and tied with three other teams for the second-best start in school history with its current 12-1 overall record. Only one other squad - the 1918-19 team which won its first 17 games - has a better record after 13 games The team is currently ranked 12th in both majors polls, including the highest ranking in The Associated Press Top 25 poll since the Wildcats were ranked No. 9 in the poll on March 13, 1973. In addition, it is the highest ranking prior to conference play since K-State was ranked No. 10 in the preseason poll in 1965.

"Kansas State has been a pleasant surprise thus far and that is due in large part to Frank Martin and his staff," said Joe Dwyer, CollegeInsider.com co-founder. "The Wildcats are playing well on both ends of the floor and they bring a toughness and confidence to the floor that is difficult to match. That's a credit to Coach Martin."

K-State is in the midst of its longest winning streak (nine) under Martin and its longest streak since winning nine in a row to start the 1997-98 season. The team completed the month of December perfect for just the eighth time in school history and the first time since the 1998-99 season with its 85-56 win over Cleveland State on Tuesday.

Among the Wildcats' 12 wins are two over ranked non-conference teams (No. 18/21 Dayton on Nov. 22 and No. 18/17 UNLV on Dec. 12), a first for the program since the 1958-59 squad knocked off No. 4 North Carolina State (69-67) and No. 14 St. Joseph's (68-55) on consecutive days on Dec. 19-20, 1958. The Wildcats' 10 games scoring 80 or more points after 13 games are the most in school history.

Martin became the third-fastest coach in school history to 50 wins with an 86-69 win over Washington State on Dec. 5, trailing just Zora Clevenger (1916-20; 59 games) and Lon Kruger(1986-90; 71 games). He enters Sunday's game with South Dakota with a 55-25 overall record in his third season at the helm. He is the first coach in school history to post back-to-back 20-win season since Kruger (1986-88) and one of just two to guide teams to the postseason in his first two years.

The Jim Phelan award is presented annually to the top Division I coach in college basketball. Prior to the 2003 season, the award was known simply as the CollegeInsider.com National Coach of the Year. It was renamed to honor longtime Mount. St. Mary's head coach Jim Phelan, who retired following the 2002-03 season.

Previous winners of the award include John Calipari (Memphis, 2009), Bo Ryan (Wisconsin, 2008), Tony Bennett (Washington State, 2007), Ben Howland (UCLA, 2006), Tubby Smith(Kentucky, 2005), Phil Martelli (St. Joseph's, 2004) and Mark Slonaker (Mercer, 2003).

The 2010 award will be presented on April 2 at the Final Four in Indianapolis.
No. 12/12 Kansas State (12-1) will resume play Sunday with the Wildcats playing host to South Dakota (6-6) at 12 p.m., CT at Bramlage Coliseum.

Old Dog 01-02-2010 05:46 PM

Thought about going to the "game" tomorrow but wouldn't make it home in time to watch the Chiefs, and since it's the last one of the season I guess I'll wait until the Tech game.

WilliamTheIrish 01-02-2010 07:13 PM

I had no idea there was a "mid season COA". LMAO

The only thing worse would be to get the dreaded "Vote of confidence" from the AD when you're mired in a 6 game losing streak in football.

hawkchief 01-02-2010 07:53 PM

Midseason coach of the year AND RPI leader after 3 weeks. Doesn't get much better than that if you're a grape.

Get the banners us for chrissakes!

Dante84 01-02-2010 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hawkchief (Post 6399157)
Midseason coach of the year AND RPI leader after 3 weeks. Doesn't get much better than that if you're a grape.

Get the banners us for chrissakes!

Go hop in an elevator with Sherron. And stop between floors.

WilliamTheIrish 01-02-2010 08:10 PM

UK must have won today. cawkchief would never show otherwise.

sedated 01-02-2010 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkchief (Post 6399157)
Midseason coach of the year AND RPI leader after 3 weeks. Doesn't get much better than that if you're a grape.

Get the banners us for chrissakes!

I hope this isn't hate from a KU/MU fan.

K-state has looked great this year. #1 RPI (which means little at this point) and #12 in overall Kenpom rankings (which means much more), and since FHS have past every test they have faced. Quality, experienced back-court and athletic front-court.

KU-KState will be some epic matchups this year. I can't wait.

WilliamTheIrish 01-02-2010 08:35 PM

I see Temple was inspired and brought their "A" game.

kstater 01-02-2010 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkchief (Post 6399157)
Midseason coach of the year AND RPI leader after 3 weeks. Doesn't get much better than that if you're a grape.

Get the banners us for chrissakes!

Hi hawkchief. Glad KU finally beat a ranked team this year. Still have one more to go to tie your neighbors to the West.

58kcfan89 01-03-2010 03:25 AM

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Cats' AD hopes hoops momentum transfers into practice facility

By Austin Meek
Updated January 2, 2010 at 11:17pm

MANHATTAN — In 2005, a search committee led by John Currie selected Bruce Pearl as Tennessee's basketball coach.

Two years later, Currie oversaw a $36 million facilities project that included renovations to Tennessee's Thompson-Boling Arena and the construction of a new practice facility.

The underlying philosophy — that Tennessee could be more than just a football school — also has applications in Currie's new job as Kansas State's athletic director.

"I think there are a lot of similarities," Currie said. "Both programs had a period of dormancy. K-State certainly has a history prior to the dormancy that is very, very significant — more significant than Tennessee's. But in recent times, there has been the period of dormancy.

"Coach Pearl was able to revive the sleeping giant, so to speak, and I think coach (Frank) Martin is doing exactly the same thing."

The wheels were in motion when Currie arrived. Martin, in his third season, has the Wildcats ranked 12th in the nation heading into their final nonconference game, a matchup against South Dakota at noon Sunday.

Attendance has been up at Bramlage Coliseum, contrary to the nationwide trend, and Currie's challenge is to harness the momentum.

"You can build buildings and hire coaches and stuff like that, but if you don't have that fan support for your programs, boy, you're really in an uphill climb," Currie said. "When you have that fan support and that passion and that tradition here at K-State, then it's our responsibility administratively to do the things to feed off of that fan support to help the program be successful."

The next step is the construction of a practice facility for the men's and women's basketball teams, a project that has been delayed by the economic downturn and K-State's recent financial turmoil.

The practice facility was part of an ambitious $70 million facilities upgrade championed by former athletic director Bob Krause. Those plans were put on hold, but the practice facility remains a priority.

"Over the last six months, we've worked hard to figure out what our operational flow is and figure out what the true priorities are of our facilities plan," Currie said. "I think the basketball practice facility is a true priority. It is a real need, and not just a need for the recruiting bling, but a need for the coaching and teaching of the sport of basketball."

The original facilities project, which also included substantial upgrades to Snyder Family Stadium, called for $35 million in private donations and $35 million in debt financing. Currie has supported a more conservative approach that relies primarily on private funding.

"I have been asked, as part of my charge here, to make sure we operate in a fiscally responsible manner," Currie said. "If you're going to build a facility, how are you going to pay for it? There was talk at one time of 'borrow this money, bond this money,' or whatever. I think when you build facilities and you don't have a new cash flow associated with it, you're going to have to build those facilities with private gifts."

K-State recently hired Laird Veatch, a former Wildcat linebacker and Learfield Sports executive, for the purpose of cultivating leadership gifts — the kind of seven- or eight-figure contributions that are required to get a facilities project off the ground.

"If you look across the country, most of the places who are building stuff, they're getting some seven- and eight-figure leadership gifts," Currie said. "Those gifts transform institutions athletically and academically.

"It's important, though, to remember that we're a grassroots university. We're going to need seven-figure gifts. We're going to need six-figure gifts, and we're going to need two-figure gifts."

The practice facility has been a priority for Martin from the outset, and he said his dialog with Currie has been encouraging.

"That's his baby," Martin said. "Obviously he includes me in his conversations and the direction he's going with it, but that's his baby. In my heart, based on my conversations with him, I truly believe that's something (that) is going to get done a lot sooner rather than later."

Currie also expressed a desire to secure Martin's services long term. Martin's current contract runs through 2012 and pays him $760,000 annually.

"I think Frank Martin is the ideal coach to be the coach at Kansas State for a long, long time," Currie said. "We're always going to do what we can to make sure we have good long-term partnerships with our coaches when we feel like we have a great fit, and we feel like we have a great fit with Frank Martin."

Martin echoed those sentiments.

"That's a deal that's between (Currie) and I, and when that gets done, it'll be public," Martin said. "But my heart's at K-State, and I couldn't be happier with the people I work with, the people I work for, the people of K-State. It's just an incredible place, and I'm just lucky to be part of it."

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Emphasis mine. Is anyone else really impressed with AD John Currie? I've been a big fan of his & President Schulz's since they were hired and they both seem to acknowledge the value of athletics to a university nowadays. I remember when he was "campaigning," Schulz would talk about how a powercat is considered K-State's brand and that athletics is one of the best ways to advertise your brand. Love it.

Hope we can get Frank signed to a long-term deal soon. He seems like a very loyal person, and if K-State can show him some loyalty, I think/hope he'll be around for a long time.

WilliamTheIrish 01-03-2010 10:23 AM

A period of dormancy? A period? It was 20 years. That's like a mesozoic era in basketball.

As far as locking up Frank "long term": That's nice and all, but he'll move when a better job comes open in the South. That's just life. And that's where Currie will earn his keep. By being nimble and proactive enough to keep things going after Frank leaves.

WilliamTheIrish 01-03-2010 10:27 AM

And Frank does deserve to paid better. After making complete and utter fools of the folks who claimed he would be a failure and threw those ridiculous "he's unethical" charges at him, Martin is certainly having the last laugh.

Dante84 01-03-2010 10:32 AM

I'm worried that Delonte will bolt for a HC job and we will lose a lot of our recruiting. Simultaneously, I am also worried that Frank will bolt if offered a big boy job. In the next three years, if this keeps up, the offers are going to start pouring in....

WilliamTheIrish 01-03-2010 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 6399223)
I hope this isn't hate from a KU/MU fan....

It's just another gigantic vaginal canal that migrated over from phogtard.net. It's amazing they can survive w/o being within nipple distance of the place.

WilliamTheIrish 01-03-2010 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 6400302)
I'm worried that Delonte will bolt for a HC job and we will lose a lot of our recruiting. Simultaneously, I am also worried that Frank will bolt if offered a big boy job. In the next three years, if this keeps up, the offers are going to start pouring in....

If Frank wins 23-24 games, he's going to be offered. And he'll probably take it. Again, that's just life. When that happens, we will then see what Currie is all about.

Dante84 01-03-2010 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6400322)
If Frank wins 23-24 games, he's going to be offered. And he'll probably take it. Again, that's just life. When that happens, we will then see what Currie is all about.

This year? You think a legit program will offer him after this season if he posts up 23-24?

I'd think a annual contender might want to see a little more. But who knows. Money talks.

WilliamTheIrish 01-03-2010 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 6400333)
This year? You think a legit program will offer him after this season if he posts up 23-24?

I'd think a annual contender might want to see a little more. But who knows. Money talks.

Frank's won 20+ in his first two seasons. In a pretty tough league. And he brought them all the way back from an 0-4 start in league to win 9 last year in conference.

An annual contender isn't looking for a coach most of the time Dante. It's usually a university like KSU, just in a conference where there is more money and easier access to talent.

Hopefully he stays for 5 years. That's about all I wanted from Huggs. That should provide a pretty solid foundation for the next coach. And DH better pull another great player in next year. We're going to need one

WilliamTheIrish 01-03-2010 10:50 AM

One other aspect in Frank's favor is he truly does like to run and gun. It's a great offense to play in. Players enjoy that style.


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