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luv 01-04-2009 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5357860)
I think the thing that most people were impressed with was Sanchez' composure.

That comes from confidence in himself, his receivers, and his line to protect him, as well as his age, relative to Stafford.

Stafford, on the other hand, doesn't have that same confidence in receivers or his line.
His receivers have made some terrible drops, though they have improved as the season progressed, and his line is made up of freshman and 2nd stringers, so his protection has broken down fairly consistently.

He's also 20 years old.

Those things will improve as he matures, and as he grows in an offense.

Sanchez is more NFL ready, but I htink they both have huge upside.

With our success rate in developing QB's, I'll take the one who is more NFL ready.

Dr. Johnny Fever 01-04-2009 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 5357872)
With our success rate in developing QB's, I'll take the one who is more NFL ready.

This. Or Elvis Grbac.

Deberg_1990 01-04-2009 10:27 PM

Ok,

Detroit takes Stafford, and Rams take Sanchez...

then what??

milkman 01-04-2009 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 5357872)
With our success rate in developing QB's, I'll take the one who is more NFL ready.

I'm not going to let history dictate my opinion, especially now, when we are ready to start a new chapter in our history.

ArrowheadHawk 01-04-2009 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 5357879)
Ok,

Detroit takes Stafford, and Rams take Sanchez...

then what??

BPA.

luv 01-04-2009 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 5357879)
Ok,

Detroit takes Stafford, and Rams take Sanchez...

then what??

DE.

Brock 01-04-2009 10:31 PM

I think the Rams draft a LT.

Dartgod 01-04-2009 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 5356870)
Pioli still has to do his due diligence and thoroughly research the Cheifs' roster...

:shake:

Dr. Johnny Fever 01-04-2009 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 5357889)
DE.

You're hitting on all cylindars tonight. I may forgive that Gretchen Wilson post if this keeps up.

milkman 01-04-2009 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5357892)
I think the Rams draft a LT.

I agree.

luv 01-04-2009 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by beer me (Post 5357894)
You're hitting on all cylindars tonight. I may forgive that Gretchen Wilson post if this keeps up.

Really? I should quit while I'm ahead. I'll end up saying something completely stupid.

OnTheWarpath15 01-04-2009 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5357892)
I think the Rams draft a LT.

I think the Rams should draft a LT.

But nothing would surprise me with Devaney running the show.

I have no doubts that if Stafford is the highest rated player on his board, he'll take him at #2, then sit him for a year (or two) until Bulger's cap hit becomes a bit more manageable to absorb. And with Stafford only being 20 years old, it's not a bad play at all.

Right now, FWIW, the fans seem split between a QB and a LT.

Frankie 01-04-2009 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 5357871)
You won't notice anything happening. After you press Prt Scr open paint and go to the Edit menu and select Paste.

Thanks.

Dr. Johnny Fever 01-04-2009 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 5357900)
Really? I should quit while I'm ahead. I'll end up saying something completely stupid.

No no no... you go girl..... you're on FIIIIYYYYYYAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

aturnis 01-04-2009 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 5357593)
No he isn't. He's being franchised. They have to keep him due to reports Brady may need another surgery and may miss 2009 as well.

Yes, and if Brady is ready to go, he'll be traded. The only reason they'd franchise him is so they can get something for him. They couldn't have the money to pay a top 5 QB salary and whatever Brady will end up costing them.

luv 01-04-2009 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 5357931)
Yes, and if Brady is ready to go, he'll be traded. The only reason they'd franchise him is so they can get something for him. They couldn't have the money to pay a top 5 QB salary and whatever Brady will end up costing them.

AS I asked before, can they trade him next year if they franchise him? Or would they have to wait a year?

milkman 01-04-2009 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 5357934)
AS I asked before, can they trade him next year if they franchise him? Or would they have to wait a year?

Yes, they can trade him.

BucEyedPea 01-04-2009 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 5357931)
Yes, and if Brady is ready to go, he'll be traded. The only reason they'd franchise him is so they can get something for him. They couldn't have the money to pay a top 5 QB salary and whatever Brady will end up costing them.

Sorry I read Pat's news and he is going to be franchised and will get the salary too. He will not be traded until after 2009, if they do, after a firm assessment of Brady's condition and successful return.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-04-2009 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 5357889)
DE.

Score one for the Lady! This!

triple 01-04-2009 11:06 PM

i think cassel has a future in the league, but they won't let him go until after next season

2bikemike 01-04-2009 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 5357646)
Pioli I may like, but Parcells is too much of a NAME and I don't want him with the Chiefs. If we become a good team with Pioli he'll be a Chiefs guy. If Parcells is involved it will be a been there done that category and all the credit will go to him. As a Chiefs fan I want the Chiefs to become successful, not almighty Parcells with the Chiefs considered an afterthought.

How many fugging jobs has Parcells had in the last 8 years? The guy is all over the map. I want someone committed to the Kansas City Chiefs. Parcells is not it.

Basileus777 01-04-2009 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5357761)
Unless they are in major, dire straights at a different position, I'll wager they keep him.

He's a proven backup, the same way Brady was to Bledsoe; you don't let that go unless you have to.

You don't spend 14 mil on a backup, proven or not. The Pats have to trade him.

The Bad Guy 01-04-2009 11:35 PM

Since Cleveland is basically going with the Kokinis/Mangini combo, it's either say in NE or come to KC for Pioli.

I'm just shocked if he takes the job. It's like something fainlly has gone right for this organization.

chiefzilla1501 01-04-2009 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 5358071)
You don't spend 14 mil on a backup, proven or not. The Pats have to trade him.

They will if they are at all unsure about Brady's status. It doesn't sound like his surgery recovery is going that well.

triple 01-04-2009 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 5358071)
You don't spend 14 mil on a backup, proven or not. The Pats have to trade him.

They will pay him that much for one year because they can't afford to let him go and then have Brady not be healthy for Week 1 of 2009

kcchiefsus 01-04-2009 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 5357879)
Ok,

Detroit takes Stafford, and Rams take Sanchez...

then what??

Then I curse because nothing ever goes right for the Chiefs.

alanm 01-04-2009 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5357904)
I think the Rams should draft a LT.

But nothing would surprise me with Devaney running the show.

I have no doubts that if Stafford is the highest rated player on his board, he'll take him at #2, then sit him for a year (or two) until Bulger's cap hit becomes a bit more manageable to absorb. And with Stafford only being 20 years old, it's not a bad play at all.

Right now, FWIW, the fans seem split between a QB and a LT.

I wouldn't at all be surprised to see that happen. In fact being a Chiefs fan I expect it to happen. :spock:

kcpasco 01-04-2009 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 5357879)
Ok,

Detroit takes Stafford, and Rams take Sanchez...

then what??

hmmm, silver lining

best defensive player in the draft i guess

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-04-2009 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 5358084)
Then I curse because nothing ever goes right for the Chiefs.

ROFL:cuss:

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanm (Post 5358096)
I wouldn't at all be surprised to see that happen. In fact being a Chiefs fan I expect it to happen. :spock:

These.

RUSH 01-05-2009 12:37 AM

I hate to get excited early, but I am so jacked up that this might actually happen. Pioli is from my hometown and having him become the Chiefs GM would be a dream come true.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-05-2009 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RUSH (Post 5358256)
I hate to get excited early, but I am so jacked up that this might actually happen. Pioli is from my hometown and having him become the Chiefs GM would be a dream come true.

There's some strange-brew happening around here for sure. One of our hopeful HC's is a graduate and football player from a college in the town I grew up in.

FloridaMan88 01-05-2009 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 5358071)
You don't spend 14 mil on a backup, proven or not. The Pats have to trade him.

That is correct... you can't have close to $30 million tied up into two QBs.

ShortRoundChief 01-05-2009 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 5358406)
That is correct... you can't have close to $30 million tied up into two QBs.

they're looking for a sucker

or they think brady's done

ILChief 01-05-2009 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Craqhead (Post 5357724)
To take a screen shot Ctrl + PrtSc, go too paint then paste/save. How they actually use it in a post.... /shrug IDK.

after you save (as a .jpg file), create a post, then go to edit attachments underneath your post text and attach file from your computer, browse, upload, close, then submit your post.

dirk digler 01-05-2009 07:07 AM

PFT

Quote:

DOMINIK REMAINS ON CHIEFS’ RADAR?

Posted by Mike Florio on January 5, 2009, 7:11 a.m.

In contrast to the coach/G.M. search in Cleveland, which is featuring more leaks than a boat made of graham crackers and old glue, the situation in Kansas City largely has been cloaked in secrecy.

As a result, there are conflicting reports about who really is and isn’t a candidate for the G.M. job there.

Last week, ESPN’s Chris Mortensen reported that the list of potential successors to Carl Peterson included Pats V.P. of player personnel Scott Pioli, Ravens director of pro personnel George Kokinis, Ravens director of college scouting Eric DeCosta, Colts assistant G.M. Chris Polian, and possibly former Browns G.M. Phil Savage. (Savage’s inclusion prompted us to conclude that Mort must owe Savage a lot of money. Or favors. Or both.)

NFL Network’s Adam Schefter has a somewhat different list: Pioli, Polian, Chargers director of player personnel Jimmy Raye, and Bucs director of pro personnel Mark Dominik.

Our friends at Pewter Report have confirmed Dominik’s candidacy.

That said, the situation remains vague, in large part because no one in the organization is yapping about it. As a result, it’s not clear who’ll be interviewed, or when the interviews will happen.

And, frankly, the Browns could learn a valuable lesson from the example the Chiefs are setting.


HemiEd 01-05-2009 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 5356988)
Isn't that Bill Parcells daughter? Is Bill from Witchita?

Wichita.

Skip Towne 01-05-2009 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 5358465)
Wichita.

Whitchita

oaklandhater 01-05-2009 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 5358466)
Whitchita

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie;
"As Wichita Falls... so falls Wichita Falls. " - Charlie

lmao

BigRedChief 01-05-2009 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 5358465)
Wichita.

WTH? Your off next years christmas list.:LOL:

Skip Towne 01-05-2009 08:12 AM

I look for new ways to misspell it. It is a sign of disrespect.

BigRedChief 01-05-2009 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 5358483)
I look for new ways to misspell it. It is a sign of disrespect.

Doesn't work for me. I misspell everything so its not a true diss.:)

Skip Towne 01-05-2009 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 5358489)
Doesn't work for me. I misspell everything so its not a true diss.:)

:LOL:

Frankie 01-05-2009 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2bikemike (Post 5358026)
How many fugging jobs has Parcells had in the last 8 years? The guy is all over the map. I want someone committed to the Kansas City Chiefs. Parcells is not it.

Exactly. Parcells will never be the face of the Kansas City Chiefs.

BigRedChief 01-05-2009 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 5358538)
Exactly. Parcells will never be the face of the Kansas City Chiefs.

But he sure would be a great resource for his son-in-law to call about some issues with the Chiefs or a question on a player.

Deberg_1990 01-05-2009 09:24 AM

From Peter King this morning:


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...rds/index.html


And Now For the Employment Gossip. It's no coincidence that every network on planet earth -- except maybe Al Jazeera -- had Eric Mangini as the Cleveland's coaching leader in the clubhouse. Either we're all being totally snowed (gee, that's never happened before), or Mangini's going to be the coach of the Browns soon. The topic to me that's as interesting as the Mangini one is what it means for New England vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli, who is clearly the top candidate out there to run a front office. Two weeks ago, I was sure Cleveland owner Randy Lerner was going to fire coach Romeo Crennel and thought he'd fire GM Phil Savage -- and if he did, he'd lay out the red carpet from Foxboro to Berea to make sure he stole Pioli from Bill Belichick's side. But clearly, something has happened in the last few days that I didn't expect.

First, I have to issue a major mea culpa to the radio listeners who heard me say the other day Mangini would never get the Cleveland job. Stupid me; never say never in January. I thought in midweek Mangini would never get the Cleveland job because I thought Pioli was going to be the general manager, and yes, someday the Manginis and Piolis and Belichicks will link arms and sing "Kumbaya,'' but I don't think they're all quite ready to do that right now. (At least not without metal detectors being used for their grad reunion.) My apologies for misleading you.

But it leaves me questioning Pioli's future. Could he get swept off his feet by a man he'll have much in common with, Kansas City owner Clark Hunt, when they meet this week? Will Pioli return to the safety of the dynastic womb in New England? That's something I never thought a possibility in December, but the longer it goes without him leaving the nest, the more chance there is he might stay.

Frankie 01-05-2009 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 5358540)
But he sure would be a great resource for his son-in-law to call about some issues with the Chiefs or a question on a player.

Only unofficially.

HemiEd 01-05-2009 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 5358466)
Whitchita

Nah, you spelled it right on the first page of this thread.

I was impressed, your KU education has served you well.

Not quite as good as Parcell's WSU education though.

BigRedChief 01-05-2009 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 5358606)
Only unofficially.

So?

BigRedChief 01-05-2009 09:50 AM

You know this whole Pioli is a control freak speculation is surreal.

If I were a GM of an NFL team I'd want final say and total control of FA's brought in, the draft and when we let go or re-sign our current players. Thats not being a control freak thats wanting to control your own destiny not allowing others to screw up and take you down with them.

HemiEd 01-05-2009 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 5358475)
WTH? Your off next years christmas list.:LOL:

I hate it when that happens. :)

Frankie 01-05-2009 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 5358614)
So?

So I don't want him officially as the face of the Chiefs. The Chiefs will become the face of Parcells instead. If we hire his son-in-law, one assumes he will tap into Parcells mind every once in a while anyway. Why hire him officially?

BigRedChief 01-05-2009 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 5358624)
So I don't want him officially as the face of the Chiefs. The Chiefs will become the face of Parcells instead. If we hire his son-in-law, one assumes he will tap into Parcells mind every once in a while anyway. Why hire him officially?

So your saying that if we hire Pioli Parcells will be the real power behind the throne?

Frankie 01-05-2009 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 5358633)
So your saying that if we hire Pioli Parcells will be the real power behind the throne?

No, just an available resource that his son in law can tap into for advice every now and then. I don't think Pioli wants a PBTT.

Zouk 01-05-2009 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 5358540)
But he sure would be a great resource for his son-in-law to call about some issues with the Chiefs or a question on a player.

I'm not even sure if they're close anymore. When Belichick left the Jets for the Pats that went to court with allegations of lying made by both sides under oath. That case was Belichick vs. Parcells and Pioli took Belichick's side. Belichick and PArcells aren't close anymore as a result. Parcells hired a GM last winter - if they were close, don't you think it would have been Pioli?

Ebolapox 01-05-2009 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 5358641)
No, just an available resource that his son in law can tap into for advice every now and then. I don't think Pioli wants a PBTT.

PBTT? wtf is a PBTT, a peanut butter tater tot?

Ebolapox 01-05-2009 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by H5N1 (Post 5358644)
PBTT? wtf is a PBTT, a peanut butter tater tot?

Put it in her
Butt
Two
Times.

BucEyedPea 01-05-2009 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5358436)
PFT

You can have Dominik as far as I'm concerned! :D

eazyb81 01-05-2009 10:08 AM

For Christ's sake, hire the man already.

Frankie 01-05-2009 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5358658)
For Christ's sake, hire the man already.

Christ is no longer available. Although the task is somewhat biblical in proportion.

Brock 01-05-2009 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zouk (Post 5358643)
I'm not even sure if they're close anymore. When Belichick left the Jets for the Pats that went to court with allegations of lying made by both sides under oath. That case was Belichick vs. Parcells and Pioli took Belichick's side. Belichick and PArcells aren't close anymore as a result. Parcells hired a GM last winter - if they were close, don't you think it would have been Pioli?

Who would want to work for their father in law?

Mr. Arrowhead 01-05-2009 10:24 AM

Hopefully we find out if Pioli is coming or not today, so we can move on either way

Frankie 01-05-2009 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5358690)
Who would want to work for their father in law?

True. Especially a man of ambition and ego as Pioli has been painted to be.

Bill Lundberg 01-05-2009 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 5358696)
Hopefully we find out if Pioli is coming or not today, so we can move on either way

Edgerton Hartwell said we should know within 48 hours...

Chiefnj2 01-05-2009 11:18 AM

I'd hate for Clark to make a decision before interviewing either of the candidates from the Ravens.

BigChiefFan 01-05-2009 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5358810)
I'd hate for Clark to make a decision before interviewing either of the candidates from the Ravens.

Agreed.

luv 01-05-2009 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 5358696)
Hopefully we find out if Pioli is coming or not today, so we can move on either way

I hope so, too, but doesn't he have more places to go for interviews? I didn't figure we'd know until he was done everywhere else.

Mr. Arrowhead 01-05-2009 11:27 AM

I just want it to get done, so Herm can get the hell out. If we wait then i think Herm sticks around

Sure-Oz 01-05-2009 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 5358816)
I hope so, too, but doesn't he have more places to go for interviews? I didn't figure we'd know until he was done everywhere else.

I think its pretty much us or go back to NE.

tomahawk kid 01-05-2009 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5358810)
I'd hate for Clark to make a decision before interviewing either of the candidates from the Ravens.

If Clark truly believes that Pioli is the guy - you hire him immediately if he wants the job.

Understand your point about the guys from B-More though.

Sure-Oz 01-05-2009 11:32 AM

I would be happy with either Pioli, Polian or Decosta

vailpass 01-05-2009 11:33 AM

I heard Cleveland backed off of Pioli because he is asking for a very large salary. Anyone heard any dollar amount specifics?

BigChiefFan 01-05-2009 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 5358846)
I heard Cleveland backed off of Pioli because he is asking for a very large salary. Anyone heard any dollar amount specifics?

I'm sure Carl was making a pretty hefty sum, I don't think money is that big of an obstacle.

Mr. Arrowhead 01-05-2009 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomahawk kid (Post 5358837)
If Clark truly believes that Pioli is the guy - you hire him immediately if he wants the job.

Understand your point about the guys from B-More though.

yup agreed

Skip Towne 01-05-2009 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 5358613)
Nah, you spelled it right on the first page of this thread.

I was impressed, your KU education has served you well.

Not quite as good as Parcell's WSU education though.

I just wanted you to know I know how to spell it but I rarely spell it right.

Sure-Oz 01-05-2009 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 5358846)
I heard Cleveland backed off of Pioli because he is asking for a very large salary. Anyone heard any dollar amount specifics?

I thought it was the total control thing

vailpass 01-05-2009 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 5358858)
I thought it was the total control thing

Man who knows? I heard on Sporting News Radio this morning that Pioli's $$ demands drove him out of Cleveland's range but it could just as easily be the way you heard it.

Right now it is all rumor and innuendo.

keg in kc 01-05-2009 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5358853)
I'm sure Carl was making a pretty hefty sum, I don't think money is that big of an obstacle.

I believe Carl was actually relatively low on the pay-scale, but I may be wrong about that.

BigRedChief 01-05-2009 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 5358941)
I believe Carl was actually relatively low on the pay-scale, but I may be wrong about that.

You are way wrong on that. He was Elpresidente/CEO/GM of the Chiefs. He was raking it in.

Brock 01-05-2009 12:11 PM

Nobody here knows how much money Carl Peterson was being paid.

PhillyChiefFan 01-05-2009 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 5358946)
You are way wrong on that. He was Elpresidente/CEO/GM of the Chiefs.

and din Fuerer


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