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TEX 11-29-2024 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17823932)
Johnson isn't playing well but neither are Jones, McDuffie, the safeties, Bolton. If your best players aren't playing well, you can't expect Nazeeh Johnson to be different. The top guys need to step up. We know the personnel isn't the issue. We've won Championships with these players. They just need to man up.

Very true! Add to that, McDuffie is not playing slot (where he excelles) nearly as much as he used to, and that changes things a lot, from coverages to blitz's, the dynamics change. Now, add to thatvery inconsistent play from CB2, and lack of pressure from thecdown 4, and it's no wonder why there are problems.

Woogieman 11-29-2024 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17829555)
Very true! Add to that, McDuffie is not playing slot (where he excelles) nearly as much as he used to, and that changes things a lot, from coverages to blitz's, the dynamics change. Now, add to thatvery inconsistent play from CB2, and lack of pressure from thecdown 4, and it's no wonder why there are problems.

It's been fascinating evidence of just how fragile the balance is between success and failure. The interdependence of the "less than a second" that determines a clean pocket/pressure/sack and a pick/pass defensed/completion is remarkable. Good news is, the Chiefs are tenths of a second from success again on D, the bad news is, they have been for a month and can't seem to find a way to close that gap.

JohnnyHammersticks 11-29-2024 09:49 AM

Chris Jones - 3 sacks

I know he's getting doubled (at least) every play, but still...

Chiefspants 11-29-2024 10:10 AM

I was looking at football reference and Jones only has 2.5 playoff sacks too!!!

el borracho 11-29-2024 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 17829573)
Chris Jones - 3 sacks

I know he's getting doubled (at least) every play, but still...

Would be nice if our 1st round DEs could do something positive. George Karlaftis and FAU have a combined 5.5 sacks on the year. Two first round picks through 11 games with only 5.5 sacks. That is weak.

staylor26 11-29-2024 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 17829590)
Would be nice if our 1st round DEs could do something positive. George Karlaftis and FAU have a combined 5.5 sacks on the year. Two first round picks through 11 games with only 5.5 sacks. That is weak.

Pretty silly to lump Karlaftis and FAU together considering Karlaftis has almost all of those sacks.

RunKC 11-29-2024 12:36 PM

Nazeeh played well in Carolina. He’s been in a position to make QB’s make very difficult outside throws while he’s in sticky coverage. I’m not gonna get on him about obvious OPI in Buffalo bc that’s bullshit. Let’s see.

Conner is who you should be worried about. He’s been a disaster the last 2 games

smithandrew051 11-29-2024 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17829794)
Pretty silly to lump Karlaftis and FAU together considering Karlaftis has almost all of those sacks.

In 2018, Chad Henne and Patrick Mahomes combined to throw for over 5,000 yards and 50 TDs.

MIAdragon 11-29-2024 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 17829573)
Chris Jones - 3 sacks

I know he's getting doubled (at least) every play, but still...

But he's actually not.

T-post Tom 11-29-2024 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17829796)
Nazeeh played well in Carolina. He’s been in a position to make QB’s make very difficult outside throws while he’s in sticky coverage. I’m not gonna get on him about obvious OPI in Buffalo bc that’s bullshit. Let’s see.

Conner is who you should be worried about. He’s been a disaster the last 2 games

Coverage Ratings:

Watson (before injury): 74.2
Nazeeh Johnson: 47.8
Chamarri Conner: 67.4
Trent McDuffie: 68.6

Delano 11-29-2024 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 17829822)
But he's actually not.

He’s double teamed on 2 of every 3 pass sets and wins 1 of every 5 according to ESPN. Best win rate amongst DTs while double teamed at one of the highest rates.

Let’s not get this twisted - Jones is a ****ing professional terror.

BossChief 11-29-2024 01:08 PM

lol people knocking on CJ95 again? In a Jaylen Watson thread?

This is why we can’t have nice things.

Womble 11-29-2024 01:34 PM

Have the medics signed off this piece of shit yet?

el borracho 11-29-2024 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17829794)
Pretty silly to lump Karlaftis and FAU together considering Karlaftis has almost all of those sacks.

Intended to be a comment on the resources spent- two first round picks; not intended to be assign blame individually. But if you want to look at them individually, fine:

George has 4 sacks in 11 games in his third year.

FAU has 1.5 sacks in 11 games in his second year.


I don't think it matters much how you group them. They simply aren't producing to the level you expect from 1st round draft picks. Maybe they will improve at some point but at the moment they are underperforming.

staylor26 11-29-2024 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 17829886)
Intended to be a comment on the resources spent- two first round picks; not intended to be assign blame individually. But if you want to look at them individually, fine:

George has 4 sacks in 11 games in his third year.

FAU has 1.5 sacks in 11 games in his second year.


I don't think it matters much how you group them. They simply aren't producing to the level you expect from 1st round draft picks. Maybe they will improve at some point but at the moment they are underperforming.

Karlaftis, at least as a pass rusher, is definitely having a bit of a down year, but he's still a really good all-around player and more than worth his draft selection. This is silly.


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