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Rausch 08-07-2024 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17619924)
"Surely"? I don't know. They've struck out on QBs since Ben retired. And it's not like it's a given that they'll find a franchise QB any time soon. And next season's crop of college QBs aren't being hailed at all from what I've read. I mean, it Took KC what, 50 years?

They didn't even try until 18. They hadn't taken a 1st or 2nd round QB for 30 years.

The first year they tried they nailed it...

Megatron96 08-07-2024 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17619887)
Do you think DaVante wants to give his money back?

Also SF isn't going to remain a powerhouse team forever, they are at the end of their run.



Well, we do know that Davante wasn't happy about his QBs last season. And in that "Receiver" show he even said out loud several times that he needed to get out of there.

Chieftain 08-07-2024 11:52 AM

I find it hard to believe the notoriously cheap Rooney family, who rarely dishes out second contracts to its players, is willing to go out of its way to give up draft capital AND pay a wide receiver $30 million per.

Sassy Squatch 08-07-2024 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17619917)
He wouldn't even give the ball to Bijan Robinson...

That's laughably overblown. Robinson had 214 attempts. The highest in the whole league was Derrick Henry at 280.

Rausch 08-07-2024 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 17619932)
I find it hard to believe the notoriously cheap Rooney family, who rarely dishes out second contracts to its players, is willing to go out of its way to give up draft capital AND pay a wide receiver $30 million per.

In fact they annually trade away WR's because they aren't willing to pay at the position.

Yeah, it did raise an eyebrow...

mr. tegu 08-07-2024 11:55 AM

Aiyuk is striking while the iron appears hottest for him. There’s obviously no guarantee he has another really good year and stays injury free, but also this might be a possible indicator that he doesn’t think Purdy is all that good and that it’s a little risky to somewhat rely on him for his big pay day.

Megatron96 08-07-2024 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 17619877)
How so? Maybe his priority right now is financial security for life.

Let's not pretend Pittsburgh is some historically shit organization. He's going to a well-run franchise and getting paid to do it. While his team quality is taking a major step down for 2024, who knows what lies ahead.

Not sure how this move for him equates to flushing his career down the toilet.




SF apparently offered him around $24M/yr, no? Don't remember if they posted the length of contract, but $24M is a lot of $$$. And the reality is that Aiyuk is not a top-3 or top-5 WR, so $30M shouldn't even be on the table.

mr. tegu 08-07-2024 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17619953)
SF apparently offered him around $24M/yr, no? Don't remember if they posted the length of contract, but $24M is a lot of $$$. And the reality is that Aiyuk is not a top-3 or top-5 WR, so $30M shouldn't even be on the table.


This might just be the whole thing though. Maybe he found out that right now, before the season, he could be worth that to a team that basically isn’t paying QBs now or in the near future, but still is in need of a playmaker, and also has basically no other options. In the Steelers case, are they even paying a QB this season? I guess something for Fields but nothing for Wilson.

Megatron96 08-07-2024 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17619963)
This might just be the whole thing though. Maybe he found out that right now, before the season, he could be worth that to a team that basically isn’t paying QBs now or in the near future, but still is in need of a playmaker, and also has basically no other options. In the Steelers case, are they even paying a QB this season? I guess something for Fields but nothing for Wilson.




Eh. He was on a team that made it to the SB twice in 5 years, and if Purdy didn't get injured at the beginning of that game vs. PHI, maybe it would've been 3 times.


Very little chance of that in PIT. And historically, when WRs at his level join teams with bad QBs, they kind of disappear after a couple seasons because their production just drops off, and they're playing for a team that doesn't go deep into the playoffs, so they're just less visible.

I mean, as a player I like Aiyuk; I think he's pretty good. But I don't see PIT helping his career, just his wallet. We'll see, and I hope he thrives there, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Mecca 08-07-2024 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17619977)
Eh. He was on a team that made it to the SB twice in 5 years, and if Purdy didn't get injured at the beginning of that game vs. PHI, maybe it would've been 3 times.


Very little chance of that in PIT. And historically, when WRs at his level join teams with bad QBs, they kind of disappear after a couple seasons because their production just drops off, and they're playing for a team that doesn't go deep into the playoffs, so they're just less visible.

I mean, as a player I like Aiyuk; I think he's pretty good. But I don't see PIT helping his career, just his wallet. We'll see, and I hope he thrives there, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

And you miss the part where most players mainly care about the money.

mr. tegu 08-07-2024 12:14 PM

Aiyuk to the Steelers?
 
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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17619977)
Eh. He was on a team that made it to the SB twice in 5 years, and if Purdy didn't get injured at the beginning of that game vs. PHI, maybe it would've been 3 times.


Very little chance of that in PIT. And historically, when WRs at his level join teams with bad QBs, they kind of disappear after a couple seasons because their production just drops off, and they're playing for a team that doesn't go deep into the playoffs, so they're just less visible.

I mean, as a player I like Aiyuk; I think he's pretty good. But I don't see PIT helping his career, just his wallet. We'll see, and I hope he thrives there, but I wouldn't hold my breath.


I’m not really arguing at all that he will have better stats or career there. But from his perspective it’s entirely possible he will make far more money the next five years by pushing his way out right now.

Megatron96 08-07-2024 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17619980)
And you miss the part where most players mainly care about the money.



Oh, I'm aware. There's always a few players that buck that trend, but the vast majority go the $$, I get it. But he was part of a team that was semi-regularly getting to the SB. If he goes to PIT, he'll be a part of a team that, doesn't. With a QB (or QBs) that can't get him the ball the way he was getting it in SF, that's all I'm saying.

If it works out for him, kudos. But history isn't really in his favor.

Megatron96 08-07-2024 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17619984)
I’m not really arguing at all that he will have better stats or career there. But from his perspective it’s entirely possible he will make far more money the next five years by pushing his way out right now.



Meh. It's short-sighted thinking, imo. But like I said, if it works out for him, congrats. If it doesn't, well, I won't be surprised, that's all.

smithandrew051 08-07-2024 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17619980)
And you miss the part where most players mainly care about the money.

It really is that simple most the time.

I remember when JJ Watt even went to the highest bidder in Arizona at the end of his career.

Could’ve taken a cheap deal to win a ring after accomplishing everything else in his career. The money still mattered more.

Couch-Potato 08-07-2024 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17620009)
It really is that simple most the time.

I remember when JJ Watt even went to the highest bidder in Arizona at the end of his career.

Could’ve taken a cheap deal to win a ring after accomplishing everything else in his career. The money still mattered more.

Even $1m difference is a lot of money.


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