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YontsRBake 04-28-2023 11:05 AM

Would love to somehow get Branch.

I think we’re way weaker at safety than a lot of us realize. Mike Edwards is a downgrade to Thornhill and Reid is inconsistent. On the contrary I think we’re stronger at WR than many believe.

philfree 04-28-2023 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Balto (Post 16922321)
Mauch is a guard/center

He's listed as an OT on the player rankings I'm looking at and by the end of the Sr Bowl and the draft process I think he showed he can easily play RT. But he is also versatile and can play any O line position which is always a bonus for an OL. I haven't done much draft study this year though which is why I brought him up. I wanted to get some feedback and now that I have I'm convinced he'd make a great RT for the Chiefs.

JPH83 04-28-2023 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by YontsRBake (Post 16922704)
Would love to somehow get Branch.

I think we’re way weaker at safety than a lot of us realize. Mike Edwards is a downgrade to Thornhill and Reid is inconsistent. On the contrary I think we’re stronger at WR than many believe.

It's definitely a position group that COULD be shakey. I wouldn't trade up for Branch but if by a miracle he made it to us in R2 I would happily take that

Mecca 04-28-2023 11:09 AM

If you want an OT there are several guys who fit what the Chiefs do..

Nick Saldiveri is an OL that is a carbon copy of what the Chiefs like in OL.

OKchiefs 04-28-2023 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by YontsRBake (Post 16922704)
Would love to somehow get Branch.

I think we’re way weaker at safety than a lot of us realize. Mike Edwards is a downgrade to Thornhill and Reid is inconsistent. On the contrary I think we’re stronger at WR than many believe.

I agree that safety isn't great, but I think it's faulty logic to say WR is stronger than we believe while saying safety is weak. If WR is stronger than we believe you're counting on players who haven't really shown anything yet (Moore and Toney) to make a huge leap. Well, you could say the same thing at safety with Cook. Safety and WR are both in the same boat as far as I'm concerned, neither one looks great and are potential weaknesses on the roster.

JPH83 04-28-2023 11:14 AM

This is kinda what I meant a few weeks back when I said for a SB team there's a surprising number of ways we can improve. Pretty exciting

The Franchise 04-28-2023 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16922661)
Downs upside isn't extremely high, he has polish and route running skill so he can step in and play now, just in 4 years a guy like Mingo may be better.

I'd rather take Mingo. I like Downs but I'm aiming for upside with the WR room we have now. I don't think anyone is going to really come in and light it up from day one in this offense.

Mecca 04-28-2023 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 16922723)
I agree that safety isn't great, but I think it's faulty logic to say WR is stronger than we believe while saying safety is weak. If WR is stronger than we believe you're counting on players who haven't really shown anything yet (Moore and Toney) to make a huge leap. Well, you could say the same thing at safety with Cook. Safety and WR are both in the same boat as far as I'm concerned, neither one looks great and are potential weaknesses on the roster.

I'm sure they view safety as fine, Reid is a big FA signing, Cooks a 2nd rounder and they brought back Bush while adding Mike Edwards who is a perfect ball hawk style 3rd safety.

JohnnyHammersticks 04-28-2023 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16922698)
I actually like Downs and wouldn't be too pissed about it, but I think at some point we've got to take a swing at a guy who MIGHT make it out of the slot.

I really like Downs too. Would prefer him over Hyatt

Mecca 04-28-2023 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16922726)
I'd rather take Mingo. I like Downs but I'm aiming for upside with the WR room we have now. I don't think anyone is going to really come in and light it up from day one in this offense.

Not to pour water on the fire but Tyreek Hill is literally the only WR this team has developed in Andy Reid's entire tenure..so do we think we can actually develop one?

The Franchise 04-28-2023 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16922729)
Not to pour water on the fire but Tyreek Hill is literally the only WR this team has developed in Andy Reid's entire tenure..so do we think we can actually develop one?

If that's the case...then why are we worried so much about drafting one?

Mecca 04-28-2023 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16922732)
If that's the case...then why are we worried so much about drafting one?

It's a fair question, usually you like to think the higher guys are just more ready and just super raw and need a ton of coaching.

It's still really hard for me not to think this team is Hopkins landing spot, it's the only one left.

Chiefnj2 04-28-2023 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16922729)
Not to pour water on the fire but Tyreek Hill is literally the only WR this team has developed in Andy Reid's entire tenure..so do we think we can actually develop one?

They didn't develop Hardman?

Mecca 04-28-2023 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 16922739)
They didn't develop Hardman?

Hardman today is largely the same thing he was the day he was drafted. Great athlete with great speed that was good as a gadget.

He never developed as a route runner or really as a WR in general.

philfree 04-28-2023 11:35 AM

I posed this question last night and never got a response but while there seem to be several WR candidates we may have a chance at drafting 'How do those guys compare to Skyy Moore?' And then if we draft a 2nd round WR can we expect a rookie season comparable to Skyy Moore's?


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