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htismaqe 04-06-2022 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16235265)
I get it.

I just don't see Jameson Williams as that blue chip player. I can't wait until the draft is here and he goes top 15 so I don't have to spend the entire night dreading the Chiefs trading up for him.

:toast:

staylor26 04-06-2022 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16235258)
Ebiketie getting mocked to the Chiefs is almost as inexplicable to me as Ridder getting mocked to the Chiefs.

So of course it's going to happen.

I just cannot make sense of it at all.

He doesn’t meet the height or weight requirements for a Spags DE, so I don’t think we have to worry about that one at all.

DJ's left nut 04-06-2022 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16235265)
I get it.

I just don't see Jameson Williams as that blue chip player. I can't wait until the draft is here and he goes top 15 so I don't have to spend the entire night dreading the Chiefs trading up for him.

Like I said in the Kiper thread - I'm fine if they do it, fine if they don't.

If they DO make that move, I think it's because they see him as a potential superstar and I'll defer to them on that one. I think they'll be doing it with the right mindset as I think Vatch has learned some painful lessons with stuff like Speaks and Clark.

At that point my only real concern would be the cost of the move. I don't want to be giving up these 2nds and DAMN sure have no interest in packaging the 1sts.

The Franchise 04-06-2022 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16235273)
Like I said in the Kiper thread - I'm fine if they do it, fine if they don't.

If they DO make that move, I think it's because they see him as a potential superstar and I'll defer to them on that one. I think they'll be doing it with the right mindset as I think Vatch has learned some painful lessons with stuff like Speaks and Clark.

At that point my only real concern would be the cost of the move. I don't want to be giving up these 2nds and DAMN sure have no interest in packaging the 1sts.

I'm sure you'll hate my idea of trading that 2023 1st round pick to move up for Jermaine Johnson then.

O.city 04-06-2022 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16235266)
You're talking about something different now. Are we talking about OUR opinions or theirs?

Nah, I'm just making fun of you guys not liking the guys they pick. Just some draft forum fun!.

DJ's left nut 04-06-2022 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16235277)
I'm sure you'll hate my idea of trading that 2023 1st round pick to move up for Jermaine Johnson then.

In fact I do hate that idea. I hate that idea more than drafting Mafe or Ebiketie at 30.

Giving up essentially the same package we gave up to get Mahomes so that we can take the 3rd best DE in the draft and maybe the 5th best DL is...well it's something, I guess.

But I let it slide.

htismaqe 04-06-2022 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16235273)
Like I said in the Kiper thread - I'm fine if they do it, fine if they don't.

If they DO make that move, I think it's because they see him as a potential superstar and I'll defer to them on that one. I think they'll be doing it with the right mindset as I think Vatch has learned some painful lessons with stuff like Speaks and Clark.

At that point my only real concern would be the cost of the move. I don't want to be giving up these 2nds and DAMN sure have no interest in packaging the 1sts.

I'd be somewhat concerned that he'd be ready to go for next season and slightly concerned he might not ever recover fully. Some guys don't.

But yes, my primary concern would be the cost. A 3rd and/or 4th? Fine, I don't like it but I can live with it.

A 2nd or 1st? No ****ing way.

htismaqe 04-06-2022 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16235277)
I'm sure you'll hate my idea of trading that 2023 1st round pick to move up for Jermaine Johnson then.

You're right. I do hate it. :D

The Franchise 04-06-2022 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16235283)
You're right. I do hate it. :D

Hey...I'm pretty sure I had you on board yesterday. Don't switch now!

duncan_idaho 04-06-2022 09:37 AM

Not to keep bashing Nate Taylor, but if you're trading up to 21, here's how I run it:

1.21 - George Karlaftis
1.30 - Daxton Hill (now don't have to worry about corner or safety as a priority)
2.50 - John Metchie III (or whatever WR you like. Watson. Skyy Moore. Tolbert. Etc.)
2.62 - Sam Williams
3.103 - Jeremy Ruckert or Greg Dulcich or Ottom. There will be a good TE option here.
4.121 - Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati (now a "wow" athlete for a CB but a good fit for KC)
4.135 - Braxton Jones or Max Mitchell or similar OT

7ths - lotto pick stabs. Though if Tre Turner is around down there, that's a guy I'd like them to snag.

The Franchise 04-06-2022 09:41 AM

Maybe I'm just in the minority that doesn't see WR as this gigantic need that requires a trade up in the 1st round.

htismaqe 04-06-2022 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16235304)
Maybe I'm just in the minority that doesn't see WR as this gigantic need that requires a trade up in the 1st round.

You're not alone. I'm with you.

RunKC 04-06-2022 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16235221)
21. Traded a first and third to move up for Jameson Williams, WR.
30. Boye Mafe, DE
50. Drake Jackson, DE
62. Martin Emerson, CB
93. Greg Dulcich, TE
121. Cordale Flott, CB
229. Aaron Hansford, LB
233. Logan Bruss, OT

Still not sure what he did with our other 4th round pick because he doesn't include it in the trade up.

I actually really like that draft. I’m higher on Drake Jackson than a lot of folks tho

The Franchise 04-06-2022 09:44 AM

Juju
MVS
Hardman

Clark
Danna
Kaindoh

They both aren't great but one is definitely lacking in talent more than the other one.

staylor26 04-06-2022 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16235308)
I actually really like that draft. I’m higher on Drake Jackson than a lot of folks tho

Jackson and Mafe are too similar.

Pair one of those guys with Karlaftis, Thomas, or Williams and I’m fine with it.


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