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SAGA45 05-02-2021 01:56 PM

Kaindoh is easily the least exciting pick of this class for me. The physical potential is off the charts but that complete lack of expected college production sets off alarms. Sounds like he was a bust in college given how highly touted of a recruit he was.

I understand poor coaching and player development but still, there have been physically gifted players that played well and, in some cases, dominated at the collegiate level, despite a lack of honed technique and were considered raw coming into the league. On the flipside, there's countless examples of those types of guys being trash in the league so perhaps Kaindoh will be the opposite?...a collegiate bust but an NFL beast.

That'd be quite the story. Time will tell but can't I honestly say I'm optimistic but hoping he pans out given that he's a Chief.

staylor26 05-02-2021 02:03 PM

Florida State had 5 day 3 or UDFA guys with great measurables/talent that all underachieved in college and went late in the draft:

Janarius Robinson
Josh Kaindoh
Hamsah Nasirildeen
Marvin Wilson
Tamorrion Terry

If that doesn’t make it obvious what the issue was, I don’t know what will.

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JakeF 05-02-2021 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SAGA45 (Post 15658936)
Kaindoh is easily the least exciting pick of this class for me.

Yep.

I'm pretty stoked about the guys we drafted this year and everyone says i'm mr. negative so that should tell you how good our draft looks this year. :D

Kaindoh is my least favorite by far.

Basham was so close to our picks and a way better option.

I like Creed at center but there Green was still there as well.

I dunno, just disappointing.

Hope Kaindoh surprises, i guess.

staylor26 05-02-2021 02:57 PM

Yea so disappointing to take a guy in the 4th that was up there with Chase Young and Jaelan Phillips coming out of HS and clearly went to one of the worst programs in CFB at developing talent.

SO DISAPPOINTING!!!

JakeF 05-02-2021 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15658991)
Yea so disappointing to take a guy in the 4th that was up there with Chase Young and Jaelan Phillips coming out of HS and clearly went to one of the worst programs in CFB at developing talent.

SO DISAPPOINTING!!!

yes, Mr. Homer.

We are all supposed to love everything single thing that happens.

It doesn't matter to you that we love everything but 1 pick.

relax, dude.

Chris Meck 05-02-2021 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 15658985)
Yep.

I'm pretty stoked about the guys we drafted this year and everyone says i'm mr. negative so that should tell you how good our draft looks this year. :D

Kaindoh is my least favorite by far.

Basham was so close to our picks and a way better option.

I like Creed at center but there Green was still there as well.

I dunno, just disappointing.

Hope Kaindoh surprises, i guess.

Basham's ceiling is Okafor.

Kaindoh's ceiling is double digit sacks every year, pro-bowler. Injuries and poor coaching is why he fell. Athletically, he's off the charts.

Basham was the safer pick; he's unlikely to bust completely. His floor is like...Mike Danna.

Kaindoh may be out of football in two years.

OR he may be a star.

staylor26 05-02-2021 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 15658996)
yes, Mr. Homer.

We are all supposed to love everything single thing that happens.

It doesn't matter to you that we love everything but 1 pick.

relax, dude.

It’s has nothing to do with any of that.

I just don’t see how you can be so disappointed with a very high upside pick on day ****ing 3.

Chris Meck 05-02-2021 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15659027)
It’s has nothing to do with any of that.

I just don’t see how you can be so disappointed with a very high upside pick on day ****ing 3.

I look at it like this-

what is it, like a 30% chance on average that you get 'successful' NFL player post round one?

I like taking big swings on potential star ability in the hopes that we get ONE shockingly good player as opposed to a couple of meh guys.

Meh guys are cheap and easily found every year. Stars are tough to find and develop or expensive to purchase.

staylor26 05-02-2021 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15659034)
I look at it like this-

what is it, like a 30% chance on average that you get 'successful' NFL player post round one?

I like taking big swings on potential star ability in the hopes that we get ONE shockingly good player as opposed to a couple of meh guys.

Meh guys are cheap and easily found every year. Stars are tough to find and develop or expensive to purchase.

Exactly.

Like I’ve said before, the later the pick the more it becomes like a lottery ticket. Why wouldn’t you want the biggest potential earnings?

Chris Meck 05-02-2021 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15659050)
Exactly.

Like I’ve said before, the later the pick the more it becomes like a lottery ticket. Why wouldn’t you want the biggest potential earnings?

yeah, we don't really need a bunch of JAGS. JAGS are cheap on the free agent market and totally replaceable.

We need to hit on some elite talent. Take the big swing. **** the safe bets. We're not rebuilding, we're a perennial contender.

Dunerdr 05-02-2021 04:10 PM

I guess I’m in the minority, the second day of the draft was boring to me, high floor low ceiling guys. Kaindoh is a swing gray is a swing I love it.

RunKC 05-02-2021 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15658941)
Florida State had 5 day 3 or UDFA guys with great measurables/talent that all underachieved in college and went late in the draft:

Janarius Robinson
Josh Kaindoh
Hamsah Nasirildeen
Marvin Wilson
Tamorrion Terry

If that doesn’t make it obvious what the issue was, I don’t know what will.

That’s why I wouldn’t expect too much from him this year. He hasn’t had good coaching and needs time to build technique.

He should be thrilled to work with Spags and Daley

Skyy God 05-02-2021 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15659050)
Exactly.

Like I’ve said before, the later the pick the more it becomes like a lottery ticket. Why wouldn’t you want the biggest potential earnings?

Especially in this crapshoot of a draft.

TwistedChief 05-02-2021 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15659054)
yeah, we don't really need a bunch of JAGS. JAGS are cheap on the free agent market and totally replaceable.

We need to hit on some elite talent. Take the big swing. **** the safe bets. We're not rebuilding, we're a perennial contender.

Totally. It's like on CP: sometimes you get a JakeF; other times you get a Rain Man. But it doesn't mean you just stop swinging.


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