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Mecca 04-10-2020 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14898821)
I just don’t see it. There’s maybe 5 that deserve to go in the 1st. I see 2-3 more sneaking in but that’s it.

Where is it gonna cut though?

Isiah Wilson is being put there by reputable people......I could see a team like how athletic Cleveland is the Peart one catches me off guard, yes he's huge but cmon.

MahomesMagic 04-10-2020 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 14898766)
If we're in the market for a Center, I'm a believer in Cesar Ruiz for sure. He's polished and pro ready.
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I like Ruiz in the 1st. I like Cushenberry even more. Think Cush could be a Pro-Bowler.

And just like Burrow improved from last season, his center also did and played a huge role on that LSU offense.

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The Franchise 04-10-2020 11:04 AM

You figure that there are the following numbers going in the first round.

5-6 OT
4 QB
4-5 WR
4-5 CB
2-3 LB
2-3 S
1-2 IOL
6-7 DL

The unknown is the RB position. Could be one. Could be a couple. It’s hard to gauge.

O.city 04-10-2020 11:07 AM

I'd trade down in the 2nd and take the RB from LSU>

Mecca 04-10-2020 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14898853)
I'd trade down in the 2nd and take the RB from LSU>

Helaire is not better than Swift....

staylor26 04-10-2020 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14898826)
Where is it gonna cut though?

Isiah Wilson is being put there by reputable people......I could see a team like how athletic Cleveland is the Peart one catches me off guard, yes he's huge but cmon.

Wills
Becton
Wirfs
Thomas
Jones
Wilson
Jackson

I don’t see Cleveland or Peart going in the 1st, but if one does that just means Wilson or Jackson don’t.

I’ve done quite a few mocks and it just seems very unrealistic that that many OT’s will go in the 1st. The demand, while high, isn’t quite at that level. You’re talking about quite a few huge reaches.

O.city 04-10-2020 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14898856)
Helaire is not better than Swift....

I think he is better suited for our offense.

Mecca 04-10-2020 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14898861)
I think he is better suited for our offense.

He's a little bit better at picking up blitzes, Swift is much more athletically gifted though.

RunKC 04-10-2020 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14898858)
Wills
Becton
Wirfs
Thomas
Jones
Wilson
Jackson

I don’t see Cleveland or Peart going in the 1st, but if one does that just means Wilson or Jackson don’t.

I’ve done quite a few mocks and it just seems very unrealistic that that many OT’s will go in the 1st. The demand, while high, isn’t quite at that level. You’re talking about quite a few huge reaches.

Veach is going to have to control Andy Reid in this draft. Ezra Cleveland is exactly what Andy Reid loves. Josh Jones is also another guy that fits Andy’s style with OL. You never see a tackle like that just sitting there at the end of the first.

That’s not even counting the receivers. I mean holy shit man if Aiyuk is still there, which is very possible, Andy might call the teams IT pro, have them disconnect Veach’s zoom connection and just call that pick in.

“We’ve got our Watkins replacement boys” LMAO

Mecca 04-10-2020 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14898895)
Veach is going to have to control Andy Reid in this draft. Ezra Cleveland is exactly what Andy Reid loves. Josh Jones is also another guy that fits Andy’s style with OL. You never see a tackle like that just sitting there at the end of the first.

That’s not even counting the receivers. I mean holy shit man if Aiyuk is still there, which is very possible, Andy might call the teams IT pro, have them disconnect Veach’s zoom connection and just call that pick in.

“We’ve got our Watkins replacement boys” LMAO

I don't like Aiyuk, he's really raw and unless you design plays for him he's going to struggle.

ToxSocks 04-10-2020 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14898749)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">DeAndre Swift is special! <a href="https://twitter.com/BassinDawg?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BassinDawg</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/universityofga?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@universityofga</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/GeorgiaDawgs365?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GeorgiaDawgs365</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/DawgsAx?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DawgsAx</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/GeorgiaFootball?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GeorgiaFootball</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/DAndreSwift?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DAndreSwift</a> <br><br> <a href="https://t.co/MqV5TFUcgO">pic.twitter.com/MqV5TFUcgO</a></p>&mdash; FQSEC (@FQ_SEC) <a href="https://twitter.com/FQ_SEC/status/1248110535079596034?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

His feet mixed with his ability to pull away and his stocky stacked up frame make him a pretty high level talent in my view.

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14898765)
Yea seems like quite a few people on CP (that aren’t morons) are down on Swift. I don’t get it. He’s easily a top 20 prospect in this draft when you ignore that he’s a RB.



I try to watch the "x player vs" stuff on youtube and get to see his not-so-good downs.

I see a guy who often goes down with the first defender, doesn't have a lot of power or burst in his game. His ability to "get up and go" from a stop isn't great. I don't see anything elite there, really.

He's a guy that, imo, needs space to operate. He doesn't create much on his own.

Don't get me wrong, i think he'd be a good addition to any team and i'd love to have him. I also think the Chiefs can take any RB and make him a star, so there's that.

I just dont think he's going in the 1st round.

He's going to be another "oh i can't believe he's still on the board" day 2 pick.

He's not a bad player, i just don't think he's feature RB worth spending a 1st on.

DrRyan 04-10-2020 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14898749)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">DeAndre Swift is special! <a href="https://twitter.com/BassinDawg?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BassinDawg</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/universityofga?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@universityofga</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/GeorgiaDawgs365?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GeorgiaDawgs365</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/DawgsAx?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DawgsAx</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/GeorgiaFootball?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GeorgiaFootball</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/DAndreSwift?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DAndreSwift</a> <br><br> <a href="https://t.co/MqV5TFUcgO">pic.twitter.com/MqV5TFUcgO</a></p>&mdash; FQSEC (@FQ_SEC) <a href="https://twitter.com/FQ_SEC/status/1248110535079596034?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

His feet mixed with his ability to pull away and his stocky stacked up frame make him a pretty high level talent in my view.

I am not a huge fan of going RB in the first. I am coming around to being ok with it if Veach and Reid believe in it though. That long run in the Auburn game was outstanding setting up those blocks down field.

Having signed Breeland I would be much more ok with it than I would have been before that signing. That said, I would still prefer Akers, Moss, CEH, Dobbins, Warren II or McFarland 1-3 rounds later.

staylor26 04-10-2020 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14898919)
I try to watch the "x player vs" stuff on youtube and get to see his not-so-good downs.

I see a guy who often goes down with the first defender, doesn't have a lot of power or burst in his game. His ability to "get up and go" from a stop isn't great. I don't see anything elite there, really.

He's a guy that, imo, needs space to operate. He doesn't create much on his own.

Don't get me wrong, i think he'd be a good addition to any team and i'd love to have him. I also think the Chiefs can take any RB and make him a star, so there's that.

I just dont think he's going in the 1st round.

He's going to be another "oh i can't believe he's still on the board" day 2 pick.

He's not a bad player, i just don't think he's feature RB worth spending a 1st on.

Pretty sure most of us do that...

He’s definitely not a physical runner by any means, but he does have good contact balance and that’s enough for me. I love his agility and quick-cut ability. The guy sticks his foot in the ground and cuts on a dime. Playing in an offense like ours that can take full advantage of his upside as a receiver and get him in space is what also makes him intriguing. I don’t think he’s an All-Pro caliber player, but he would be a top 5-8 RB in this offense. When you factor in positional value, I still think he’s a borderline top 32 player and would be a solid pick at 32.

RunKC 04-10-2020 03:51 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From Matt Miller&#39;s report today 👀👀👀 <a href="https://t.co/Mi5FlBYtGI">pic.twitter.com/Mi5FlBYtGI</a></p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@natech32) <a href="https://twitter.com/natech32/status/1248632160367661058?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Not a fan of a RB that early but hey Veach is the one sitting with jewelry and not me

MahomesMagic 04-10-2020 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14899772)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From Matt Miller&#39;s report today 👀👀👀 <a href="https://t.co/Mi5FlBYtGI">pic.twitter.com/Mi5FlBYtGI</a></p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@natech32) <a href="https://twitter.com/natech32/status/1248632160367661058?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Not a fan of a RB that early but hey Veach is the one sitting with jewelry and not me

I guess the plan is just keep scoring TD's..see if the other team can keep up. I like it!!

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