Bingo. I think didn't think it was that difficult to understand.

Too many people on CP are looking so intent on looking for a fight that they don't want to understand what is said because then they can't bitch.

Mathieu
Clark
Jones

When Clark is healthy he is the better all-around player on defense.

More balanced? Sure. Better? Get the **** out.

I really hope we keep him.

Two things...Chiefs SB window is NOW not 2 in years. There is a time to be financially prudent...and that isn't this off-season. The Patriots are finally dead. Get it while you can...there isn't a lot of great QBs in the AFC right now. They are going to have to draft well regardless of Jones for sustained success..

In a few years...even marginal players are going to be asking for stupid money. Teams are going to be able to keep their good players so FA will dry up. It sounds like a lot of money...but it wont be soon.

I realize Jones doesn't have cool name like "Honey Badger"...but he's their best defensive player.

Veach can push Mahomes money into the future...

If he's going, then he needs to be replaced by another excellent inside pass rusher, and I dont see many around. Spags' pass rush is all about inside penetration and the ends setting an edge (and eventually finishing the job). Which happens to be also quite effective against the runs.
Reason why most folks here complained about Frank Clark - and why we let Dee Ford go in the first place.
Veach will do all he can (and more) to keep him.

Pay Jones.

This is an understatement I'm not even worried. Veach knows what he is doing and really can just make a case you want to win Championships come or stay in Kansas City if not go away.


Mahomes is going get a deal done that is a fact so little to worry about players will want to play here. I think Chris Jones wants to stay and we need him to anchor this defense so he will get something fair from Veach and so will Frank Clark and the Honey Badger I think we got them next few years anyways. No worries.

We got this all.

IVIT

I think if they can sign him to what Frank Clark got, that would be a huge bargain and they should do it immediately after the CBA is signed. Either that or a 3 year deal similar to how Veach structured Landlord and Watkins deals. Something like 3/60 with 40 guaranteed. That allows Chris to hit FA again while still in his prime once the CBA explodes.

I disagree with this. With how young Mahomes and most of our players are we have a huge window to win championships.

If wanting to sign Chris Jones is considered being miserable around these parts, then sign me up.

I am glad you are so invested in my post history. I apologise I didnt celebrate the Chiefs Super Bowl victory with you. I am sure you are real fun at parties. I am bummed I missed out.

No it’s not about wanting to sign Chris Jones. I totally agree with that.

I’m talking about shitting on guys like Sorenson, Nnadi, Watkins etc. without even acknowledging we won it all and they were key players in that run/win.

You were bitching about Reid when the Chiefs were down 24-0 calling for him to be fired then came back after an incredible run all the way to the SB as if nothing changed since that post. You just went right back to bitching about overpaid bums like you used to. It’s ****ing weird.

I don't know why this set you off so much. There are people in here that are arguing Clark and Mathieu is better Jones. To offer perspective I then grabbed a bunch of role players that Jones is better than. Really the Jones in Door #1 vs Breeland Speaks in door #2. Why are you bothered by that? Even if I am wrong who cares. The team has Mahomes now. Not Cassel, not Alex Smith. The days of arguing about the Stanford Routts and Jeremy Maclins are over. Mahomes will carry this team no matter what.

I have been wrong a lot it shouldnt bother you that much. Its fun to theory craft roster construction and cap space in the off season. Isnt that why certain people make those Late Night Bullshit Threads? Why is it negative if I think a guy sucks? Do you read the gameday threads on here? People turn on players every play.

Whether we keep or trade Jones, one thing is certain.

We are winning the 2021 Superbowl.

IF that's true, then you trade him.


IF.

I gotta confess that I have flip flopped on tag/trade vs just paying him now. Hell, I still go back and forth some, but for the most part, I think you pay him.

IMHO, The real issue is anticipating the CBA and subsequent salary cap. $20mm may be a bargain after they come to an agreement.

I too will trust Veach. He’s earned that.