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DaneMcCloud 01-14-2018 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 13360663)
I do think we will have growing pains but I think with Berry coming back, if we can fix the pass rush it would really go a long way to making next year a legit year.

It’s going to take some serious luck for this team to go from the bottom of the defensive ranking to even the middle.

Besides a starting Nose Tackle they need depth across the D line, a WILL next to Ragland, a competent cornerback opposite Peters, a ROLB and depth everywhere.

I don’t know if they can do that in one offseason.

NJChiefsFan 01-14-2018 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13360711)
It’s going to take some serious luck for this team to go from the bottom of the defensive ranking to even the middle.

Besides a starting Nose Tackle they need depth across the D line, a WILL next to Ragland, a competent cornerback opposite Peters, a ROLB and depth everywhere.

I don’t know if they can do that in one offseason.

I'm not sure they can either. I think the focus needs to be fixing 2 positions and hoping we get lucky enough to fill out some depth at the same time elsewhere.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-14-2018 01:48 PM

It's gonna be hard to patch every hole on defense of course, but....

The Chiefs are in a unique position that should allow them to really hone in on defenders during the draft and FA. That should make it easier on them.

DaneMcCloud 01-14-2018 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13360723)
It's gonna be hard to patch every hole on defense of course, but....

The Chiefs are in a unique position that should allow them to really hone in on defenders during the draft and FA. That should make it easier on them.

Except they’re going to need some luck because free agency doesn’t really offer many, if any, solutions.

It’s like last year: People were convinced Gerald Hodges would be the solution at ILBer. Not only was he passed upon by the Chiefs answer others, he was cut September 3rd by the Bills and went unclaimed before signing with New Orleans in October and recorded zero stats for the year.

For defense, it’ll be draft and trades. For offense, get the left guard in Free Agency.

NJChiefsFan 01-14-2018 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13360845)
Except they’re going to need some luck because free agency doesn’t really offer many, if any, solutions.

It’s like last year: People were convinced Gerald Hodges would be the solution at ILBer. Not only was he passed upon by the Chiefs answer others, he was cut September 3rd by the Bills and went unclaimed before signing with New Orleans in October and recorded zero stats for the year.

For defense, it’ll be draft and trades. For offense, get the left guard in Free Agency.

Jags are paying Bouye $15 million a year for the next 4. That's a lot of money they had to spend to get him in FA. I would love to get a CB in free agency but financially it may not make sense.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-14-2018 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 13360871)
Jags are paying Bouye $15 million a year for the next 4. That's a lot of money they had to spend to get him in FA. I would love to get a CB in free agency but financially it may not make sense.

It'd be an easy move if we weren't on the door step of potentially paying Peters even more.

ThaVirus 01-14-2018 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13360362)
With the chiefs starting a new qb and having a young offense basically set, it’s not likely they’re a contender next year unless things go really well.

That being the case they need to get the financial house in order so I’d look to potentially get rid of any older vet that isn’t gonna be here in a year or two anyway

I don't expect to be a Super Bowl contender next season but I do expect to compete for the division crown.

9-7 or 10-6 would be nice.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-14-2018 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 13361509)
I don't expect to be a Super Bowl contender next season but I do expect to compete for the division crown.

9-7 or 10-6 would be nice.

If they can really hit on their FA/draft moves... they could probably be contenders. It won't be easy, nor is it likely. But possible.

King_Chief_Fan 01-14-2018 03:39 PM

Even with Mahomes at QB, Chiefs get smoked bt either of those two teams

O.city 01-14-2018 04:02 PM

I mean who’s really gonna be a contender in the afc next year, outside of New England?

Pitt looks like it may be the end and Jacksonville has a great d and Bortles.

NJChiefsFan 01-14-2018 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13361628)
I mean who’s really gonna be a contender in the afc next year, outside of New England?

Pitt looks like it may be the end and Jacksonville has a great d and Bortles.

PIT's offense is still stacked if Ben comes back. The rest of the offense is young either way. Will be interesting to see what they do if Ben does retire.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-14-2018 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13361628)
I mean who’s really gonna be a contender in the afc next year, outside of New England?

Pitt looks like it may be the end and Jacksonville has a great d and Bortles.

Very unclear at this point with FA and the draft to come.

I would say Jacksonville is a contender with whoever their QB is, NE and PIT if they bring back their key guys.

Then you have teams like the Chiefs, Bills, Titans, Ravens, Chargers... inconsistent teams in 2017. Bound to see changes for better or worse.

Oakland should probably be better in the short term although I don't know if Gruden will be able to maintain success once they go to Vegas. Colts could be better with McDaniels for sure.

BryanBusby 01-14-2018 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13360711)
It’s going to take some serious luck for this team to go from the bottom of the defensive ranking to even the middle.

Besides a starting Nose Tackle they need depth across the D line, a WILL next to Ragland, a competent cornerback opposite Peters, a ROLB and depth everywhere.

I don’t know if they can do that in one offseason.

They could address most the needs if they went heavy D in the draft and nailed them all. I don't anticipate that they will ans will accept the fact that the D will probably be leaky again in 2018.

Priority might be loading talent on Offense for Pat.

chiefzilla1501 01-14-2018 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13361519)
If they can really hit on their FA/draft moves... they could probably be contenders. It won't be easy, nor is it likely. But possible.


I don't think the defense is as far away as we think it is, as long as Sutton is gone. Think we're so used to a world where we expect our D to carry us. This is a new era where we just need the D to be good.

Cut Hali, DJ, Parker. That gives us $32M + $6M if we cut Bailey. LBs and Safeties aren't hard to find. Prioritize a pass rusher and we're solid enough. A quality DT (or NT, depending on our defensive front) and extra CBs are icing on the cake. But before we spend a dime, sure as shit hope we build toward a scheme of the future, not toward band-aiding Sutton who I can't imagine makes it past 2018

ThaVirus 01-14-2018 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13361918)
I don't think the defense is as far away as we think it is, as long as Sutton is gone. Think we're so used to a world where we expect our D to carry us. This is a new era where we just need the D to be good.

Cut Hali, DJ, Parker. That gives us $32M + $6M if we cut Bailey. LBs and Safeties aren't hard to find. Prioritize a pass rusher and we're solid enough. A quality DT (or NT, depending on our defensive front) and extra CBs are icing on the cake. But before we spend a dime, sure as shit hope we build toward a scheme of the future, not toward band-aiding Sutton who I can't imagine makes it past 2018

We have to keep Parker, bro. What the hell are you thinking?


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