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mdchiefsfan 08-18-2013 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 9897923)
So why did we take him number 1?
Say it with me, potential. Therefore, can we let it play out and see if that ceiling is reached? **** no we can't. CP must bitch!

Pablo 08-18-2013 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9897919)
He is switching positions as a rookie in a shortened training camp, we are only 2 weeks into the preseason, and is apparently playing hurt. And we all knew that after having played at Central Michigan, there would be a learning curve.

I agree that the guy has to be nothing short of pro bowler, and he still won't live up to being 1.1. I get all that stuff. I'm not crazy about taking a RT at 1.1 either. I just can't stand the agendas that people are using a game this early in the preseason to drive an "I told you so" agenda. The kid deserves a reasonable amount of time to prove what he can do. The idea that he HAS to be a great player from the get-go... who really cares if he is? We're not winning the Super Bowl this year.
Hey we brought Alex in to win now. We shored up the line with the best available player. No messy rookie QB learning curve. We have a veteran QB our HC pined for and a line chock full of first round talent to protect him.

We should be aiming for the post season and the Superbowl. That's what these moves were made for.

jd1020 08-18-2013 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 9897924)
I am fine with Fisher out of the players who were available at the top of the draft.
Fine with drafting a tackle #1 overall to replace Albert.

:facepalm:

chiefzilla1501 08-18-2013 08:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 9897923)
So why did we take him number 1?
I am not a fan of taking any RT at 1.1. Or that high in the first round in general.

But the idea that Fisher ends up being a shitty pick if he ends up as a pro bowler in year 2 or 3, but struggles in his first starts, is just plain ludicrous. Why is it so critical to be a star from game 1?

jd1020 08-18-2013 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 9897926)
Say it with me, potential. Therefore, can we let it play out and see if that ceiling is reached? **** no we can't. CP must bitch!
What potential does Fisher have in helping the Chiefs win a SB?

Do you think the recent SB winners give a **** about one of the best, if not the best, tackle playing for the Browns?

Eleazar 08-18-2013 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9897929)
Fine with drafting a tackle #1 overall to replace Albert.

:facepalm:
Well, if I accept your premise that Albert is leaving, having a need at LT is worthy of a #1 pick, certainly.

jd1020 08-18-2013 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 9897933)
Well, if I accept your premise that Albert is leaving, having a need at LT is worthy of a #1 pick, certainly.
ROFL

aturnis 08-18-2013 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9897919)
He is switching positions as a rookie in a shortened training camp, we are only 2 weeks into the preseason, and is apparently playing hurt. And we all knew that after having played at Central Michigan, there would be a learning curve.

I agree that the guy has to be nothing short of pro bowler, and he still won't live up to being 1.1. I get all that stuff. I'm not crazy about taking a RT at 1.1 either. I just can't stand the agendas that people are using a game this early in the preseason to drive an "I told you so" agenda. The kid deserves a reasonable amount of time to prove what he can do. The idea that he HAS to be a great player from the get-go... who really cares if he is? We're not winning the Super Bowl this year.
Nobody has said "I told us so" in this thread. In fact the only ones bringing up any other draft option are the"true fans". Fisher is being evaluated. The evaluations are pretty fair to boot.

ToxSocks 08-18-2013 08:54 PM
Im not calling him a bust by any means, but the dude has looked about as bad as any 1st round pick we've had, Tyson Jackson included.

Pablo 08-18-2013 08:54 PM
Dorsey thought he had Albert sold off and was dead wrong. Now the line has the most talent I've seen in nearly a decade. They should perform like it.

mdchiefsfan 08-18-2013 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9897931)
What potential does Fisher have in helping the Chiefs win a SB?

Do you think the recent SB winners give a **** about one of the best, if not the best, tackle playing for the Browns?
What the **** does it matter what I think? The pick was made. Maybe it won't work out maybe it will, but to bitch at this moment is premature. Who knows what he brings to this team, but let's keep up the dog pile mentality and all circle jerk each other while we complain. That fixes everything.

aturnis 08-18-2013 08:56 PM
I seriously laugh my as of at anyone who assumes Albert is gone.

ToxSocks 08-18-2013 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 9897939)
What the **** does it matter what I think? The pick was made. Maybe it won't work out maybe it will, but to bitch at this moment is premature. Who knows what he brings to this team, but let's keep up the dog pile mentality and all circle jerk each other while we complain. That fixes everything.
Are we not suppose to take note about how bad he's been playing? Or are we suppose to notice it and just be quiet about it on a forum?

jd1020 08-18-2013 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9897943)
Are we not suppose to take note about how bad he's been playing? Or are we suppose to notice it and just be quiet about it on a forum?
Just shutup and put on the beer goggles! 10 wins minimum! We are going to the ship!

chiefzilla1501 08-18-2013 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 9897935)
Nobody has said "I told us so" in this thread. In fact the only ones bringing up any other draft option are the"true fans". Fisher is being evaluated. The evaluations are pretty fair to boot.
He is being evaluated by people pushing an agenda.

The same people calling him a pussy for a possible injury are the same ones not speaking a word about guys like Geno and Mingo also being injured this preseason. The same people who (even if they didn't want to draft a RT) blasted picking Joeckl over Fisher because he was safer, are the same ones bitching that Fisher is less NFL-ready than Joeckl.

If you want to evaluate Fisher play-by-play, great, let's have that discussion. But it's never going to be a discussion if there are people that set this unrealistic expectation that he has to be some star, injury-free player from the get-go, which everybody knew he was not going to be.


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