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the Talking Can 09-10-2012 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8898375)
We are both biased in different ways.

The unbiased opinion (PFF) had Tyson as the better player last year.

their careers are not equal...to the eye, or the stats

Jackson was a complete worthless pussy his first two years in the league...not bad, worthless...

i'm not even going to bother with stats to refute this nonsense from blackbob:

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Raji hasn't been that good. He's had one good year and is about equal to Jackson as far as his whole body of work.

Molitoth 09-10-2012 01:14 PM

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Crennel seems to have 2 ways of calling a defense ... bend/don't break and super bend/don't break.
Yesterday we saw bend over and take it right up the ass.
That's 3 ways.

BigMeatballDave 09-10-2012 01:16 PM

Devil's 3 way.

BoneKrusher 09-10-2012 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 8898391)
Yesterday we saw bend over and take it right up the ass.
That's 3 ways.

good one. :D

HemiEd 09-10-2012 01:21 PM

Perhaps, but saying that draft class was bad is not accurate. GB has 3 starters from that class that I know of. The Chiefs had more picks, and higher picks.

DaneMcCloud 09-10-2012 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 8898407)
Perhaps, but saying that draft class was bad is not accurate. GB has 3 starters from that class that I know of. The Chiefs had more picks, and higher picks.

Blackbob is a drooling, slobbering Mongo.

There were plenty of first rounders that would have had a bigger, more immediate and long term impact than Tyson Jackson.

And if the draft was bad, why didn't Cannoli trade back to pick up, well, anything? Future draft choices? Later 2009 choices? Anything?

The Franchise 09-10-2012 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8898414)
Blackbob is a drooling, slobbering Mongo.

There were plenty of first rounders that would have had a bigger, more immediate and long term impact than Tyson Jackson.

And if the draft was bad, why didn't Cannoli trade back to pick up, well, anything? Future draft choices? Later 2009 choices? Anything?

Check my sig for some more Blackbob reeruned thoughts.

Black Bob 09-10-2012 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 8898407)
Perhaps, but saying that draft class was bad is not accurate. GB has 3 starters from that class that I know of. The Chiefs had more picks, and higher picks.

No, we traded our second for Cassel which was smart because it was a bad class. Green bay had two firsts. The one they took mathews with was one of the few trades in the first round. If I remember right, there were fewer trades in the first round of that draft than any other in history.

The only guys from that class that are still on the packers are Mathews, Raji, and Lang.

The only guys left on the Chiefs roster are O'connell, Jackson, and Succop. However, we traded McGee to Tampa and it was good we got something for him.

You can argue that Pioli failed because he didn't move back into the first but that's about it. Like I said, there weren't many trades and Green Bay got lucky. They gave a second and two thirds to the Pats to get him. It was the year the Pats had all of those 2nd and 3rds and they bombed. A second for Cassel and Vrabel was a good deal imo. Even if Cassel is just a back up it's a good deal. Vrabel really helped Hali learn what he was doing.

Black Bob 09-10-2012 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8898414)
Blackbob is a drooling, slobbering Mongo.

There were plenty of first rounders that would have had a bigger, more immediate and long term impact than Tyson Jackson.

And if the draft was bad, why didn't Cannoli trade back to pick up, well, anything? Future draft choices? Later 2009 choices? Anything?

No one wanted to trade because the draft class was shit.

Also, not only did Jenkins leaving hurt Raji but, it also hurt Mathews. Both are good players but how good?

They sure got run over last night.

DaneMcCloud 09-10-2012 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8898446)
No, we traded our second for Cassel which was smart because it was a bad class. Green bay had two firsts. The one they took mathews with was one of the few trades in the first round. If I remember right, there were fewer trades in the first round of that draft than any other in history.

The only guys from that class that are still on the packers are Mathews, Raji, and Lang.

The only guys left on the Chiefs roster are O'connell, Jackson, and Succop. However, we traded McGee to Tampa and it was good we got something for him.

You can argue that Pioli failed because he didn't move back into the first but that's about it. Like I said, there weren't many trades and Green Bay got lucky. They gave a second and two thirds to the Pats to get him. It was the year the Pats had all of those 2nd and 3rds and they bombed. A second for Cassel and Vrabel was a good deal imo. Even if Cassel is just a back up it's a good deal. Vrabel really helped Hali learn what he was doing.

AIDS gunfire

:bang:

HemiEd 09-10-2012 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8898414)
Blackbob is a drooling, slobbering Mongo.

There were plenty of first rounders that would have had a bigger, more immediate and long term impact than Tyson Jackson.

And if the draft was bad, why didn't Cannoli trade back to pick up, well, anything? Future draft choices? Later 2009 choices? Anything?

Yep,
That is one BB card he hasn't played yet, and it sure would have been nice.


drum roll please, waiting for the excuses that Pioli didn't have time to prepare for that draft.

I hear it, it's coming.

The Franchise 09-10-2012 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8898446)
Vrabel really helped Hali learn what he was doing.

****ing excuse me?

No he didn't.

Hoover 09-10-2012 01:41 PM

People just look for stats like tackles and sacks from D-Linemen. That's not their job.

I would have liked to see this game played with Hali, Flowers, and Lewis.

That is all.

DaneMcCloud 09-10-2012 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8898455)
****ing excuse me?

No he didn't.

This guy HAS to be a mult or troll.

No one is this ****ing stupid.

Fish 09-10-2012 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8898455)
****ing excuse me?

No he didn't.

There were reports that Vrabel was about the most unfriendly guy in the locker room, and was never any kind of team player..


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