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Haley, Pioli Smelling Like Herm, Carl (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=250089)

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 7914882)

Herm lost 12 consecutive games and lost 21 of his final 23 games coaching the chiefs.

Are we really comparing that to Haley? Maybe if we were 1-15 instead of 0-1.

Well if you combined the end of last year, the Chiefs have been outscored by something like 100+ to 30. All games were at Arrowhead.

Not exactly a positive trend upwards.

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 7914981)

In today's NFL with parity, free agency, etc. you don't need 3 years to clean-up... the clean-up should be completed and the Chiefs should be building off of last year.

Instead it looks like last year's success was just a product of one of the weakest schedules in recent NFL history.

Judging by what has transpired the early part of this season, it appears the Chiefs are much closer to the 2009 team than last year's team... which means that virtually no progress has been made under Haley/Pioli.

Herm/Carl at least had an excuse for why things tanked after their playoff season... they took the oldest team in the league and started a massive youth movement. Haley/Pioli have a young team that should be on the upswing, yet that doesn't appear to case.

If you can provide any evidence, based on the Buffalo fiasco that the Chiefs are still on the upswing and will build on last year's playoff performance, I'd be very interested to see it.

Ok, I thought you said Peterson and Herm caused massive destruction you know, like Hitler, but if they had an excuse so I guess they're off the hook.

Yeah, it looks bad for the Chiefs right now. They appear to have entered the season unprepared to play, which is a direct result of the way Haley handled training camp and the preseason. I blame Haley for making a really bad decision on how to go about things this off season, and yeah it goes back to Pioli for hiring Haley, but I believe Pioli wasn't thrilled with the choice in the first place. He was late in getting the GM job, and had fewer HC options when the process began, also he doesn't seem to really care for Haley, and I'll bet if the season continues the way it's started this will be Haleys last season.

Pioli might prove to make everyone long for the days of Peterson, I just don't see how you could be there just yet.

Changing the QB will do FAR more to help this team. Then changing either the GM or HC or both IMO. THe hiring of Zorn show they at least admit there is concern there

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 7914986)

Well if you combined the end of last year, the Chiefs have been outscored by something like 100+ to 30. All games were at Arrowhead.

Not exactly a positive trend upwards.

Yes, we've been bested three times at home in a row and all of them have been ugly. We're struggling something awful. We have some talented players and there's really no excuse for some of what's happening out there.

Haley has given me one horrible and frustrating season, and the way he's handled this season is not exactly a positive mark.

All I have to do is watch the end of the KC/Tampa game in 08 to know Herm is the dumbest coach in the world. He literally snatches defeat from the jaws of victory. Haley still has some proving to do before I'm sticking him in the same company as that dipshit.

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 7914802)

since when did Whitlock become a credible source for what defines Todd Haley?

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

I think it would be insulting to Herm/Carl to compare them to Haley/Pioli now.

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 7920760)

I think it would be insulting to Herm/Carl to compare them to Haley/Pioli now.

Herm/Carl -

http://www.newyorkshitty.com/wp-cont...eenstshit1.jpg

Haley/Pioli -

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lb...dl16o1_500.png

That is one big pile of shit.

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 7914305)

doubt anybody is actually debating Herm vs. Haley. Haley is clearly a superior coach. And he's done a lot of really good things during his tenure. I believe what he's selling too. Fr

ROFL

If Haley had a quarterback, he might have already gotten us deep into the playoffs a couple times and had a nice sized extension by now.

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8637236)

If Haley had a quarterback, he might have already gotten us deep into the playoffs a couple times and had a nice sized extension by now.

This should be painfully obvious, Goat. Hell, even with the drama involved, I'd still take Haley over Herm any day of the week, and I'd bet 95% of this board would too.

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Originally Posted by SuperChief (Post 8637258)

This should be painfully obvious, Goat. Hell, even with the drama involved, I'd still take Haley over Herm any day of the week, and I'd bet 95% of this board would too.

I would take just about anyone save for Richie Kotite, over the Herminator fer sure.

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8637236)

If Haley had a quarterback, he might have already gotten us deep into the playoffs a couple times and had a nice sized extension by now.

He had his chance with his QB. The kid couldn't throw over 10 yards.

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 7913022)

Haley, Pioli Smelling Like Herm, Carl

I still can't figure out how Clay knows how they all smell. :shrug: