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Mecca 09-17-2008 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5027787)
It's been a rebuild for three years. Herm came in and immediately made changes to the defense and special teams. He brought his own special teams coach. He implemented the cover 2 and brought over a host of NY Jets to try to get it done and focussed on defense in his drafts. The rebuild didn't begin this year. .

And so far it's been bad because his first draft, the 2006 draft which can be judged now looks like a whiff.

StcChief 09-17-2008 07:43 AM

it's a work in progress. long 2008, hoping for development as players, a good draft in 2009....
by 2011 we might contend if or draft picks gell as a team

Chiefnj2 09-17-2008 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5027797)
And so far it's been bad because his first draft, the 2006 draft which can be judged now looks like a whiff.

You think it is a whiff? I don't.

1 20 20 Tamba Hali DE Penn State
** A good LDE. He's being played out of position this year. Bad coaching/GM move with Allen and forcing Hali to play the right side.

2 2 22 54 Bernard Pollard DB Purdue
** Not a great safety, but I think he's good and he is still improving.

3 3 21 85 Brodie Croyle QB Alabama
** at this point a bust because of injury problems.

4 5 22 154 Marcus Maxey DB Miami (FL)
** bust

5 6 17 186 Tre' Stallings G Mississippi
** bust

6 6 21 190 Jeff Webb WR San Diego State
** underperforming this year.

7 7 20 228 Jarrad Page DB UCLA
** excellent pick for a 7th rounder.

Mecca 09-17-2008 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5027825)
You think it is a whiff? I don't.

1 20 20 Tamba Hali DE Penn State
** A good LDE. He's being played out of position this year. Bad coaching/GM move with Allen and forcing Hali to play the right side.

2 2 22 54 Bernard Pollard DB Purdue
** Not a great safety, but I think he's good and he is still improving.

3 3 21 85 Brodie Croyle QB Alabama
** at this point a bust because of injury problems.

4 5 22 154 Marcus Maxey DB Miami (FL)
** bust

5 6 17 186 Tre' Stallings G Mississippi
** bust

6 6 21 190 Jeff Webb WR San Diego State
** underperforming this year.

7 7 20 228 Jarrad Page DB UCLA
** excellent pick for a 7th rounder.

I think it's a whiff in terms of building a top level team through the draft, if you are comparing it to say Vermiel drafts then it's not.

All of the players that can contribute from that draft are role players and nothing more guys that frankly shouldn't be every down players.

beach tribe 09-17-2008 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by phillip (Post 5026960)
That's the boat I'm in. I want to have fun watching the Chiefs. That's why I don't like Herm. He makes the game so F-ing boring to watch. Even if we're winning the way he does things (which we won't because those days are long gone) it will be like watching the Ravens super bowl run some years back. Snooze.

Are you kidding me?

I'd give my left nut for the Chiefs to be as good as those Ravens. Your and idiot.

Hammock Parties 09-17-2008 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 5027726)
Might want to edit the online version -

"You see, if the Chiefs’ recent decent into also-ran status has shown us anything, it’s that Peterson may be a lot smarter than anyone’s been giving him credit for."

I'm pretty sure he meant "recent descent".

Yeah suffice it to say there was a HURRICANE and I couldn't edit anything the last few days.

You want to see some spelling errors on our front page just click on over.

beach tribe 09-17-2008 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5027828)
I think it's a whiff in terms of building a top level team through the draft, if you are comparing it to say Vermiel drafts then it's not.

All of the players that can contribute from that draft are role players and nothing more guys that frankly shouldn't be every down players.

We basically got shit from that draft. A wash as much as I hate to say it. Hali gets run right over in the run game, left side right side doesn't matter. Pollard will lose his job to morgan, and Page can't tackle a 3rd string RB in the open field. I would like to see Morgan take Page's Job. The guy just can't tackle.

triple 09-17-2008 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5027825)
You think it is a whiff? I don't.

1 20 20 Tamba Hali DE Penn State
** A good LDE. He's being played out of position this year. Bad coaching/GM move with Allen and forcing Hali to play the right side.

2 2 22 54 Bernard Pollard DB Purdue
** Not a great safety, but I think he's good and he is still improving.

3 3 21 85 Brodie Croyle QB Alabama
** at this point a bust because of injury problems.

4 5 22 154 Marcus Maxey DB Miami (FL)
** bust

5 6 17 186 Tre' Stallings G Mississippi
** bust

6 6 21 190 Jeff Webb WR San Diego State
** underperforming this year.

7 7 20 228 Jarrad Page DB UCLA
** excellent pick for a 7th rounder.

Hali is just a guy.

Pollard is only a special teams player.

Croyle is not an NFL quarterback.

Maxey didn't even make the team his first year.

Stallings, Webb, Page - nothing


So in that entire draft we got Hali, who is invisible most of the time. None of these guys will be key contributors when (if?) we return to respectability.

Time's Yours 09-17-2008 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 5027000)
49-41..... it's a Celebration of the game!

Oh come on, I'm not saying it needs to be a Vermeil era or Eagles-Cowbows MNF style game.

I'm saying run, run, swingpass, punt is no fun to watch, even if you win 3-0 or 6-3.

Time's Yours 09-17-2008 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5027856)
Are you kidding me?

I'd give my left nut for the Chiefs to be as good as those Ravens. Your and idiot.

Yeah, I'm an idiot because I'm tired of Herm's boring-ass r2p2 gameplan.

Good call. Guess my law school should take back that full-tuition scholarship they gave me.

Next time I post, I guess I'll have to conform to the majority opinion here so I don't get called names, online, by grown men.

triple 09-17-2008 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by phillip (Post 5027907)
Good call. Guess my law school should take back that full-tuition scholarship they gave me.

to use in situations like this, and the other day when someone was bragging in another thread about their supposed connections in the chiefs organization, there should be a smiley called :bigtime:, maybe with an image of carl peterson

COchief 09-17-2008 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by phillip (Post 5027907)
Good call. Guess my law school should take back that full-tuition scholarship they gave me.

A group of douchebag slimy laywers looking at you and deciding: "We have to have this kid, he will make an excellent attorney" is not something I would brag about.

Congratulations, you've won the "most likely to grow up to be an asshole award", the funny thing is that you think this is an accomplishment.

beach tribe 09-17-2008 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by phillip (Post 5027907)
Yeah, I'm an idiot because I'm tired of Herm's boring-ass r2p2 gameplan.

Good call. Guess my law school should take back that full-tuition scholarship they gave me.

Next time I post, I guess I'll have to conform to the majority opinion here so I don't get called names, online, by grown men.

When did I say anything about Herm's teams? we're talking about a SB winning Raven's team with one of the best defenses ever, your highness.

ChiefsCountry 09-17-2008 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5027828)
I think it's a whiff in terms of building a top level team through the draft, if you are comparing it to say Vermiel drafts then it's not.

All of the players that can contribute from that draft are role players and nothing more guys that frankly shouldn't be every down players.

And you dont need those on a championship type team?

the Talking Can 09-17-2008 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SBK (Post 5027339)
We're missing 3 key things for a proper rebuild.

GM
Coach
QB

Other than that we're on our way.

:clap:


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