That's Herm he was like that in NY too, he will throw anyone and everyone under the bus to save himself.

I have not read this entire thread, but I intend to do so throughought the day. I really do not have a problem with what we did for 3+ quarters last Sunday. Even the before half thing where we ran out the clock with 3 timeouts left. I thought it was a brilliant gameplan in fact. Tied at 10 with under 10 minutes to go in the game with the defending Super Bowl Champs on their home turf... and comming off of two straigth losses. I thought it was pretty much perfect.

At that point though, I think they should haved handed the keys over to Croyle. Something like this... "OK Brodie... we got you to this point in the game tied. Do your thing. We are only going to have probably 2 more posessions at best from this point on in. Go do your thing. Don't worry about making any mistakes, just do your thing. You have Gonzo, Bowe, Kennison, and Holmes in your passing scheme... use them. Take us down the field.... beat the Colts... and the city... Kansas City... will be yours."

Instead we handed off on first down both times. Had 2nd and long both times. Brodie got us out of the first one, but couldn't overcome the second one. And Manning did the rest.

Do you really think the OL is doing a good job run blocking?

LJ is hurt. Priest is 2 years removed from football. Kennison is past his prime and can't stay healthy. Croyle is just learning the game as is Bowe.

The nucleus isn't nearly as good as you think. It's made worse by poor playcalling and an overly afraid approach to the game.

Exactly, and I had an open mind and positive attitude towards Herm ****ing Edwards when he came on board.

However, Dick Vermeil was supposedly his friend, Herm ****ing Edwards began bad mouthing him shortly after he got here.

I have been around those kind of assholes before, they are all the same and he is proving it once again.

That is quite a reach on your part.

Really? Before he ever coached a game he went on and on about how it was wrong to run up the score on Cincy....

Exactly, and don't forget the "Circus Offense" comments that followed.

You sure like to paint silly pictures.

Wow. That article is a little disheartening. I understand giving a team respect, and recognizing the strengths and weaknesses of both teams, however, to say things like, "We survived the 1st half" simply tells me that he never believed he had a shot at winning this game. The Chiefs "survived" the 1st half?? Yippie!! Moral victories all around!!

This is the NFL. This isn't Kentucky Institute of Technology going up against USC. You simply cannot go into a game with a defeatists attitude by saying, "We're gonna play four-corners and hope we get out of the 1st half unscathed."

That mentality is nonsense.

This shit really happened, that isn't painting a picture.

Then after the year, Trent Green and Terry Shea are both gone and any sort of downfield, creative playcalling, pretty much any decent pass plays are gone from the offense. They are not nearly as aggressive...that should tell you how Herm wants to play and why he wanted the guys who were going against what he wanted were put out of here.

Someday, when you have some experience, you may understand.

NO Question about it, this is now HERM'S TEAM by God!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He got rid of that other guy's team!

I understand completely.

You're in love with Dick Vermeil and think he can do no wrong.

You hate Herm Edwards and think he's crap.

The truth is Vermeil did nothing in five years here. Herm Edwards so far has done nothing, but should be afforded the same chance Vermeil got.

At least I thought Vermiel was honest and his players respected him....I think Edwards is a carny clown.

The team wouldn't play hard if they didn't respect Edwards. I haven't seen this team quit in one game since Herm was hired.