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BigChiefFan 06-23-2005 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull
I find this whole thing about Keyaron Fox a little mind-boggling. Last year, he didn't play at all. Now, everybody including the coaches are talking like the kid is going to be a starter, and at the very least playing this year. So, why wasn't he playing last year? Why would the Chiefs elect to use Quinton Caver over his a**? I don't get it.

Here's a write-up on him...
KEYARON FOX
Position: OLB
Class: Sr
School: Georgia Tech
Conference: ACC
Ht., Wt.: 6'2½, 227
40 Time: 4.61
Grade: 3.76

Selected by Kansas City Chiefs
Round 3, pick 30 (93 overall)
BIO: Three-year starter who led the ACC in tackles last season with 155/18/4, while also breaking up 3 passes. Junior totals were 92/13/3 after 95/8/2 as a sophomore.

POSITIVES: Athletic linebacker who plays with a great amount of explosion. Forceful moving up the field, deceptively strong and adjusts off the initial block. Tremendous range and athleticism; fast sideline-to-sideline, gets depth on pass drops and makes plays in every direction. Quick arriving on the scene, has a closing burst of speed and throws his body around the field. Squares and wraps up tackling.

NEGATIVES: Lacks body control and over pursues the action on occasion. Has difficulty defending the run in the box and better out to the flanks. Hesitant at times.

ANALYSIS: Athletically, Fox is one of the most explosive weak-side linebacker prospects in the draft. His forceful nature coupled with the natural abilities gives him a nice upside for the next level.

PROJECTION: Late Second Round

I would agree with that analysis. The key is... he's a better tackler than Fujita. Fujita has the size and speed for the position, but he attempts too many arm-tackles.

BigChiefFan 06-23-2005 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull
Speaking of coaches, I don't see how our secondary coach has a job
:shake:

He's got help in Vernon Dean.

Chiefnj 06-23-2005 12:09 PM

For those who were asking, the 1997 "Falcon" defense:

DLE 91 O'NEAL, 97 Parten, 75 McGlockton
NT 71 BARNDT, 99 Holland, 75 McGlockton
DRE 93 BROWNING, 91 O’Neal, 95 Ransom*
FALC 58 D. THOMAS, 77 McDaniels, 98 Hicks*
ILB 56 SIMMONS, 54 Favors*
MLB 59 EDWARDS, 51 Manusky
ROLB 50 DAVIS, 55 George
LCB 34 CARTER, 45 Brooks, 46 R. Williams*
RCB 40 HASTY, 29 McMillian, 44 Warfield*
SS 25 TONGUE, 35 Johnson
FS 21 WOODS, 45 Brooks

Radar Chief 06-23-2005 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz
except for i've seen something before about Savaii not staying focused and doing more partying than working out.


could be bull ... but it could be the reason why savaii has yet to show any of the potiential the team raved about when they drafted him.




i still don't see how our defensive line coach still has a job

That doesn’t sound good.

go bo 06-23-2005 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj
What are you basing your opinion on?

It's a fact he had weak leg strength coming out of college. It's also a fact he doesn't have much football experience and zero experience with playing NT in a 3-4.

all true, apparently, from what i've read about him before and after the draft...

now he could develop into a stud, probably in either the 4-3 or the 3-4, if he works at it for a few years, and i hope he does...

RedThat 06-23-2005 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan
Here's a write-up on him...
KEYARON FOX
Position: OLB
Class: Sr
School: Georgia Tech
Conference: ACC
Ht., Wt.: 6'2½, 227
40 Time: 4.61
Grade: 3.76

Selected by Kansas City Chiefs
Round 3, pick 30 (93 overall)
BIO: Three-year starter who led the ACC in tackles last season with 155/18/4, while also breaking up 3 passes. Junior totals were 92/13/3 after 95/8/2 as a sophomore.

POSITIVES: Athletic linebacker who plays with a great amount of explosion. Forceful moving up the field, deceptively strong and adjusts off the initial block. Tremendous range and athleticism; fast sideline-to-sideline, gets depth on pass drops and makes plays in every direction. Quick arriving on the scene, has a closing burst of speed and throws his body around the field. Squares and wraps up tackling.

NEGATIVES: Lacks body control and over pursues the action on occasion. Has difficulty defending the run in the box and better out to the flanks. Hesitant at times.

ANALYSIS: Athletically, Fox is one of the most explosive weak-side linebacker prospects in the draft. His forceful nature coupled with the natural abilities gives him a nice upside for the next level.

PROJECTION: Late Second Round

I would agree with that analysis. The key is... he's a better tackler than Fujita. Fujita has the size and speed for the position, but he attempts too many arm-tackles.

Thank you for the insight BigchiefFan. So, from the sounds of it he seems ok. I'll keep my eye out for him in TC, and pre-season.

BigChiefFan 06-23-2005 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj
For those who were asking, the 1997 "Falcon" defense:

DLE 91 O'NEAL, 97 Parten, 75 McGlockton
NT 71 BARNDT, 99 Holland, 75 McGlockton
DRE 93 BROWNING, 91 O’Neal, 95 Ransom*
FALC 58 D. THOMAS, 77 McDaniels, 98 Hicks*
ILB 56 SIMMONS, 54 Favors*
MLB 59 EDWARDS, 51 Manusky
ROLB 50 DAVIS, 55 George
LCB 34 CARTER, 45 Brooks, 46 R. Williams*
RCB 40 HASTY, 29 McMillian, 44 Warfield*
SS 25 TONGUE, 35 Johnson
FS 21 WOODS, 45 Brooks

If Tom Barndt can play nose tackle, Junior definitely can.

beer bacon 06-23-2005 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz
except for i've seen something before about Savaii not staying focused and doing more partying than working out.


could be bull ... but it could be the reason why savaii has yet to show any of the potiential the team raved about when they drafted him.




i still don't see how our defensive line coach still has a job

After seeing pictures of Siavii at the open practice I am ready to call the rumors of him not working out bullshit. He looked like he was in better shape then last year.

BigChiefFan 06-23-2005 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBull
Thank you for the insight BigchiefFan. So, from the sounds of it he seems ok. I'll keep my eye out for him in TC, and pre-season.

My pleasure. At the open practice, Fox was in with the starting unit and he looked good. He's quick in the back field.

Mr. Laz 06-23-2005 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon
After seeing pictures of Siavii at the open practice I am ready to call the rumors of him not working out bullshit. He looked like he was in better shape then last year.

good, really glad to here it


we need savaii and allen to both be at their best physically this year

BigChiefFan 06-23-2005 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj
What are you basing your opinion on?

It's a fact he had weak leg strength coming out of college. It's also a fact he doesn't have much football experience and zero experience with playing NT in a 3-4.

That was then, this is now. The whole idea of training is to improve and from what I saw of Junior the other day, he looked damn good. He's a beast out there. Probably the biggest guy on the field, but not in a fat-ass type build. He collapsed the pocket on a few plays and looked like he had been working on improving his game and his techniques.

RedThat 06-23-2005 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan
My pleasure. At the open practice, Fox was in with the starting unit and he looked good. He's quick in the back field.

I think he's one of the fastest LBer's on the team. I know he's quicker than Bell. Not as quick as DJ, but, definately one of the fastest. It is really good to hear he can tackle. I know Fujita quite well for missing a lot of tackles, and never completely wrapping up when attempting to make tackles.

Chiefnj 06-23-2005 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan
That was then, this is now. The whole idea of training is to improve and from what I saw of Junior the other day, he looked damn good. He's a beast out there. Probably the biggest guy on the field, but not in a fat-ass type build. He collapsed the pocket on a few plays and looked like he had been working on improving his game and his techniques.

Fair enough, but I'm not sure much can be made out of collapsing a pocket without full contact.

LiL stumppy 06-23-2005 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan
Not me. I prefer Fox over Fujita.

Mitchell, Bell, DJ, and Fox.

Fujita has proven him self to be a solid LB.

BigChiefFan 06-23-2005 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj
Fair enough, but I'm not sure much can be made out of collapsing a pocket without full contact.

I agree, but it does show that he is strong,which is one of the points I've been trying to make.


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