The price keeps going up.

Cooper Kupp arguably had the greatest season for a wide receiver in NFL history -- and is now cashing in on his accolades. Kupp and the Rams have agreed to terms on a three-year, $80 million extension, as first reported by ESPN and confirmed by CBS Sports NFL Insider Jonathan Jones. Kupp is set to make $110 million over the next five seasons, netting the latest massive contract given to a wideout after the market was reset in March. The extension includes $75 million guaranteed, according to ESPN.

The $75 million guarantee represents the highest ever given to an NFL wide receiver or non-QB offensive player, according to ESPN. The total value of the deal gives Kupp an average of $22 million a year, making him the sixth-highest-paid wide receiver in the league.

Tyreek Hill is the highest-paid wide receiver in the NFL, making $30 million annually. Davante Adams is second at $28 million followed by DeAndre Hopkins ($27,250,000), A.J. Brown ($25 million), and Stefon Diggs ($24 million). Kupp is just behind Hopkins with the three-year extension. Four of those five contracts were signed this offseason.

On Monday, the Rams made All-Pro DT Aaron Donald the NFL's first $30M-per-year non-quarterback with a three-year, $95M deal.


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Kupps deal is actually bigger than Hills. His real money is 26 per year. Hills is 23.

How much are the Rams going to suck in 3 years? Or does the salary cap not apply to LA?

How do the Rams keep dishing out these contracts and are never in cap hell?

I’m not questioning it. Everybody bitches about it when we do it.

HOW DOES BRETT VEACH DO IT?!?!!! HE’S CHEATING!!!

Didn't people say that 3 years ago?

****. Raiders re-signed Renfrow for 2 yrs 32 million.

Did you think they wouldn’t get a deal done?

Adams and Carr literally said their contracts were worked out in a way so that Renfrow would get paid. Absolutely no surprise here.

Hi buddy - good to see you.

Nobody should sleep on the Raiders this year. They are going to be good.

Better than Denver does not equal good :D

3rd place Faid

lol

I thought they would. But I think Renfrow is really really good. I'd rather he not be there :)

I think they may be a little better than last year, but I don't think the defense was upgraded as much as needed in the secondary (still starting Jonathan Abrams, which means you're either playing him as a box safety/third safety in the nickel or unable to play 2-high), and I don't think the Chandler Jones addition is going to upgrade them much at E over Ngaukie, if any at all.

The offense has a lot of receiving talent, but the OL still has big question marks as well.

They'll be better than Denver, though.

They have Carr still.

I didnt understand swapping yannick for Jones.

Want to bet?

I'm betting no worse than 2nd place, and that does equal good.

I mean even with that he had a better year than our #1 had had the past two years combined so I'm not looking forward to him being next to Adams regardless of who the QB is

You're placing an awful lot of stock in the addition of Chandler Jones and Davante Adams (and no other real moves).

Have you forgotten what an absolute and abject disaster McDaniels was in his last run as head coach? He showed zero redeeming qualities. His plans sucked, his overall program sucked, his player handling sucked. I don't think running back to the Belichick umbrella for another decade fixed all those issues (it didn't the first time around).

They'll finish 3rd behind KC and the Chargers.

I mean...that's a pretty big downplay of adding two elite/very good players to a 10-7 team.

Derrick Carr. I repeat, Derrick Carr.

1. KC
2. LA
3. DEN
4. Las Vegas Trainwreck

Yeah he was the QB when they were 10-7. And now they have either the best or 2nd best WR in the league.

Didnt we beat the shit out of the raiders two times?

Adams is gonna learn real quick what life is like with out Rodgers dropping dimes into perfect windows for his ass.

They added an elite WR to a team QBd by a mid-tier game manager sort. That's an upgrade. They also didn't fix the OL that couldn't run block at all and that had real struggles pass protecting on the interior and right side.

Chandler Jones had a whopping 0.5 sacks more than Ngakoue last year, and five of them came in one game against an extremely weak player who was summarily moved off the spot.

That's a name upgrade. In terms of actual on-field upgrade, it looks negligable to me.

People are hyping up replacing Tyreek hill with MVS and Juju meanwhile the Raiders getting a guy who had triple yards than both of them combined last year is just negligible. LMAO LMAO

You made that up.

And it's totally fair to question the potency of Adams less Rodgers. No different than questioning the potency of Hill with Tua instead of Mahomes.

QB play matters.

Yeah I'm sure he's just going to start sucking.

Meanwhile MVS also had Rodgers. And he had Adams on the other side and he caught less than 50% of the balls that went his way. Even though they were in those same "perfect windows".

I don't get why you would downplay adding a player like that to a team that won 2 less game than us last year. If we're going to have a down year, and they improve even a little bit, why wouldn't they come out with the same record as us at worst?

No I didn't make it up. There are people saying that Tyreek made this offense predictable and now that we have MVS and Juju, we'll open the offense up and be more dynamic and Mahomes will spread the ball out more and won't force the ball to him.

And yeah Carr is a downgrade from Rodgers. But hes still a really good QB. He shouldn't be compared with Tua at all.

Why you wanna talk about MVS?

He's basically DeMarcus Robinson's replacement. If we got 500 yards out of him we'd be stoked, lol.

The Raiders simply don't have a great roster. They have the worst roster in the division if we're being honest. A WR like Adams, who largely depends on precision ball placement, just isn't going to move the needle in overall wins and losses.

I'm not comparing Carr to Tua. I'm stating that there will be a drop off in QB play, which could directly lend to a drop off in WR production compared to years past.

And the people you're referencing: They're merely saying the offense will look different, and get it done differently. Which is true. No one is hyping these guys up as if they're improvements over Hill. They're simply stating that production will come from various places rather than focused on one guy.

We didn't pay MVS $10mil a year for the next two years to be DeMarcus Robinsons replacement...

And the Raiders roster is better than ours. Even still, that "worst" roster won 10 games last year. So either they do a great job of maximizing the value of their players or, they just have a good roster. So let's say Devante drops off because of QB play and has a 1000 yard season and 7 touchdowns. You're telling me that that added to what Renfrow does added to what Waller does won't make a difference?

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Absolute bullshit.

King dipshit is clearly going for the offseason’s biggest moron.

There’s no other explanation at this point.

Oh look my biggest fan is here with another post about me. Everybody say hello.

I mean, what positions do you think we're better at them at? I say QB and oline but after that, I can't say for sure.

And like I said, they lost two games more than us last year. One team improved in the off-season. The other team is looking at a reset year. So how exactly aren't they better? Do you think we maintained that 2 game buffer this off season?

You’re talking about a team that we literally blew the **** out twice last season.

The only position groups where the Raiders are better is WR and EDGE.

Everything else is a wash at best.

Yeah and at the end of the day, they were still within 2 games of us and made the playoffs. In a season where their best WR went to jail for killing a person and their coach was fired midseason. They then add one of the best WR in football and brought in Chandler Jones.


Even youve said this will be a down year and reset year for us. So why are you mad when someone says we probably won't maintain the 2 game buffer we had over them.

I never said this “will” be down year and a reset year. I’m prepared for it, and it’s entirely possible, but even then, that was before Veach knocked the draft out of the ****ing park. That absolutely changed my expectations a little.

I don’t give a **** what our records were. We were clearly a much better team than them last year. We have a first place schedule every year with a target on our backs. You can’t just ignore 2 H2H games that resulted in blowouts. That’s just reeruned.

89-23

That’s the combined score of the Chiefs vs. Raiders last year.

KC is better at: (16)
QB
LG
C
RG
RT
TE
WR2 (Demarcus ****ing Robinson)
WR4 (Skyy Moore is KC's #4)
DT
NT
CB (Sneed vs Mullen)
S (Reid vs. Moehrig)
S (Thornhill vs. Abram)
NB (Fenton vs. Hobbs)
K
P

Push: (3)
LT
LB
LB

Vegas better at: (6)
WR1
SLOT WR
RDE (Jones vs. Clark)
LDE (Crosby vs. Karlaftis)
CB (Ya-Sin vs. McDuffie)
RB (Jacobs, I guess, is better than the Chiefs committee)

My bad, hard to keep up with your flips and your flops.

How exactly did I flip flop you butt****ing moron?

The draft slightly increasing my expectations? You aren’t allowed to slightly adjust expectations after the biggest part of the offseason is complete?

The fact that you can't see how this team improved this season shows just how myopic you are.

Good signing for them. Renfrow is de facto Wes Welker.

If king and Tex had a baby it would be born with its head up its ass, arguing that it wasn’t.

LMAO

It's pretty funny that two of the worst posters are on here pumping up the goddam Raiders of all teams because they got Davante Adams which is like getting the most expensive rims possible for your Toyota Corolla

That Corolla went 10-7 and made the playoffs. I think adding an elite WR helps. Don't you?

So you think the rookies are going to hit the ground running? And they were the difference between a reset year and a contending year?

Adding a guy who had 2800 yards and 29 touchdowns to a 10-7 team is barely an improvement.

You heard it here first.

Meanwhile we added WRs that combined for 2080 yards and 18 touchdowns the past two years and we might not only be as good but maybe even better!

The Raiders have brought in 25 free agents. Their new head coach is Josh McDaniels. Vegas has the win total for them at 8.5.

Unless Davante Adams came with a new pair of testicles for Carr, he's still going to fold under pressure.

No, I think every other team's additions are fabulous and fool proof, while KC's are all a disaster. Am I doing it right?

How’s their defense??

When did I say our additions were disasters. I do think MVS is a bad WR. Im not the biggest Hardman fan but even I think he's a better WR overall. Ive also said that I loved the Reid signing and the draft. Somehow you guys missed those posts.

Again, I never said that this “will” be a reset year. What I said was that I was prepared for it as a possibility given the way the offseason was playing out, an extremely tough schedule, and the rest of the division/AFC going all-in.

This draft is full of guys that are ready to contribute. They drafted at least 5 guys that should be able to play significant roles.

Trent McDuffie for example was one of the safest prospects/picks in the draft. It’s entirely realistic that we could see zero drop-off from Ward. I’d argue McDuffie might even be an upgrade. He’s that ****ing good/ready.

Of course that changes expectations. He was a top 15 player on my board. I was not expecting an addition like that. Not to mention Karlaftis, which was my best case scenario first pick for the Chiefs. Why would these additions not slightly change expectations?

They have won the SAME AMOUNT OF PLAYOFF GAMES.... one is still on his rookie contract.

Not really when the engine is suspect

Probably average at best.

That was the same engine that took them to 10-7 and into the playoffs. So you don't think adding a 1300 11 touchdown WR helps that?

The Raiders won their last 4 games all by 3 points or less. 6 all together.

10-7 last season means ****ing dick.

So you think Tua and Carr are on the same level?

Probably why they got a WR that scored 29 touchdowns last 2 years dontcha think?

I mean, given their ages and contracts I'd much, much rather have Tua. At least there's a minute chance he becomes a worthwhile asset and you can trade him. Carr is taking up 40 million per and has never won ANYTHING of substance the entire time he's been in the league.

That guarantees absolutely nothing.

Last year means nothing.

The entire division got tougher. They now have the worst QB in the division. Their schedule will be tougher. They got a new coaching staff.

You keep pretending that it’s as simple as “derp they were 10-7 last year so they’ll clearly be better this year with Adams”. It doesn’t ****ing work like that.

Raiders can get out of carrs contract after this season if he doesn't perform so I don't understand why you guys are bringing that into it.


Do you think Tua and Carr are on the same level of QB play?

Yeah but they as a team got better also. And we have essentially the same schedule except a couple games in which theirs are against worse teams than the teams we're facing.

Derek Carr has thrown over 30 touchdowns once.

It was seven years ago.

You have no ****ing idea if they as a team got better.

Yes. They're both QBs that hamstring your team into mediocrity at best.

The Raiders aren’t the ****ing Chiefs dude.

They don’t have the best QB in the NFL, and arguably the best HC. That kind of sustained/consistent year to year success is not easy when you don’t have those things.

They had one decent 10-7 season that could’ve easily been 7-10, and you seem to think it guarantees them success going forward. It doesn’t.

You’re a ****ing moron.

And we still have the engine that took us to 4 straight AFC championships. WHAT ARE WE ****ING TALKING ABOUT HERE? YOU THINK THE RAIDERS ARE ACTUALLY THE BETTER TEAM? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE HONESTLY ARGUING AT THIS POINT?

He thinks the Raiders have a better roster.

He’s a reerun.

Yeah but the part around that engine changed and either got worse or will have to go through some growing pains as they develop. I don't think it's wise to assume or expect them to hit the ground running or for our defense to struggle as they figure out the league.

But maybe my expectations are too low. Maybe i should expect the rookies to come in and play like vets right away and to be difference makers right from the start.

And yet again, here you are in every single thread LMAO. Boy got an obsession.

You say stupid shit and you don’t expect people to tell you you’re an idiot.

I’m not any more obsessed with you than Red Dawg, Tex, JakeF, or any of CP’s dumbest. I guess you can say that I’m obsessed with arguing with morons though. I can’t help myself.

They did?

Beyond Adams, where is this major upgrade that’s going to make up for them being coached by a Belichick midget who already failed at epic levels the first time he left the mothership?

Or that’s going to fix their shitty secondary?

Ngakue to Chandler Jones? Is that it?