Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17145636)

They're doing the whole "you must know better than Reid" argument in another thread. You should join in. You'd feel right at home.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17145647)

This isn't about another thread or argument. It's about this pattern with you specfically.

How many times must Andy and Veach rub their ****ing balls across your face before you finally learn?

We can go all the way back to the Travis Kelce thread where you bitched endlessly about the pick only to look like a fool.

You've been doing this hit for the entirety of this incredible run. Whether it's crying about the Tyreek trade, or saying Veach needed to change his FA process after missing on Trent Williams, you've been clowned on non-stop, and you've learned absolutely nothing.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17145673)

Yeah I'm critical of some things and I praise some things. That's kinda what keeps discussion boards ticking. This discussion of different ideas. Sometimes I think one thing and I'm right. Sometimes I think one thing and I'm wrong. It happens. So you wanna talk about the chiefs now or talk about me some more?

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17145682)

Yes, let's get back to you crying that Rice isn't getting enough snaps when he's the most targeted WR on the team and Veach has already said he will be eased into a starting role (in other words, those snaps are coming).

Remember when you acted like Puka was the rule and not the exception, so I tried to point out the situations of the majority of 1st round WRs, and you just ignored it? Because it doesn't fit your narrative that the Chiefs are SO much different

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17145603)

Yes Puka is the exception which is why I only pointed to Rices snap count not production. I wouldn't expect him to start setting receiving records, but Puka is playing 88% of snaps. Rice can't even get 51%?

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17145719)

The Rams WR is terrible right now. It's Van Jefferson and a bunch of shit bc Cupp is injured.

Tutu Atwell is like 5'9" 175 lbs soaking wet so of course they're force feeding Puka.

The Rams WR room is so bad right now that they signed Demarcus Robinson. This isn't hard dude. Rice is clearly getting more snaps bc Toney is injured and ona. Pitch count.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17145719)

The Rams WR room is so bad right now that they signed Demarcus Robinson. This isn't hard dude. Rice is clearly getting more snaps bc Toney is injured and on a pitch count.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17145715)

I pointed out Puka to highlight that you can get a rookie out there playing major snaps. It's not that hard to follow Staylor. Just take a breath and calm down a little. You can do it.

And yes when a player is clearly the most productive player on a unit, it makes logical sense to want to see him be used more.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17145512)

Rookies aren't just learning a playbook. They're learning how to be pros and adjusting to the jump in competition on top of everything else. The vets already have a good grasp of NFL concepts, the speed of the game, etc.

Of course only you need this nuance explained to you.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17145732)

Which would obviously beg the question - why is Rice seemingly behind Moore and Watson as the guy in a timeshare with Toney while those two are getting significantly more snaps despite being clearly less productive?

Watson I understand because the big-play potential and reliability. Frustrating as it is, he's oftentimes been our most critical WR to this point.

But Moore? In what world should Rice be behind Moore on the depth chart. Because that's clearly how he's being used at the moment - a backup Z rather than a starting X.

While Moore is getting an unchallenged starter's snap share.

That's just...wrong, IMO.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17145735)

No, you tried to frame it like what the Chiefs are doing is exclusive to them.



As I explained, it's not about "taking a year". Bringing along rookie WRs slowly to start the season is the norm, dumbass.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17145746)

Is it the norm when the WRs in front of that rookie aren't producing? And the rookie is clearly better?

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17145541)

It's really my major concern with him. I don't see many of these as concentration drops at this point - they're looking like technique drops.

Now maybe, as happens with a goalie having a bad game, he's "fighting the puck" and his hands are just a little too tight as the ball is coming in. But he's getting his hands up and the ball's just bouncing off them. That's a technique problem in that he's just not absorbing the ball with his hands.

Now in complete fairness - I've never caught a 50 mph football and I'm sure that's ****ing hard. There's probably a lot more to it that 'put the point in the window' as I was always taught. But man, that always seems to fix any issues because when you do that, your hands really don't have a choice but to wrap around the ball.

It's odd.

Then again, I take some comfort in the stat that I believe CD put up around here somewhere - drop rates almost always stabilize for 95% of receivers in the league. Some are truly remarkable, some are truly bad. But 95% of receivers have drop rates within the margin of error of each other. And over large enough sample sizes, pretty much all of them regress/progress to the mean.

I'm fairly confident that Rice will do the same. He's just fighting the ball a bit at the moment.