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Kidd Lex 07-09-2014 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10737739)
To be fair, Moose has been platooned with Valencia mainly since returning from Omaha. Hosmer doesn't get to platoon with anybody. Hosmer's numbers would be much much better if he was platooned. Bottom line, Moose still needs to improve to be an everyday player.

Batting the Hoz third will teach him. :thumb:

Deberg_1990 07-09-2014 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The God Hypothesis (Post 10738258)
Oh I definitely agree, but leadership 101 begins and ends with communication. I believe the lack of communication to one of your prior key players is a microcosm of the real problem with our beloved Royals, terrible leadership. Is it Glass, GMDM, Yost, the veterans, who ****ing knows, bit it's time someone steps up and gets this organization righted.

On one hand i can kinda see Butlers beef. He feels hes the "proven" vet whos earned his stripes. Hosmer hasnt ever proven sh*t yet.

BUt like i mentioned earlier, the Royals chose "upside potential" over "already peaked"

But that column did say that Hosmer was being "evaluated". Which carefully tells us that the Royals are not exactly happy with him either.

Coach 07-09-2014 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10737087)
Dude, but Raul?

If we were in 2004, then sure, this would have been a great move. But alas, we're in 2014, and Raul is just a shell of what he used to be.

Deberg_1990 07-09-2014 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 10738413)
If we were in 2004, then sure, this would have been a great move. But alas, we're in 2014, and Raul is just a shell of what he used to be.

he did belt 29 Hrs last year. Its a low risk, high reward scenario.

Coach 07-09-2014 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10738418)
he did belt 29 Hrs last year. Its a low risk, high reward scenario.

I'm aware of that, but taking a 41 year old guy is a high risk though, because to think he'll hit 29 HR's again is very unlikely.

Deberg_1990 07-09-2014 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 10738440)
I'm aware of that, but taking a 41 year old guy is a high risk though, because to think he'll hit 29 HR's again is very unlikely.

He wont, but im sure his contract isnt too much.

Prison Bitch 07-09-2014 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10738223)
You're correct.

Dayton wants nice-guy, aw shucks, Christian country boys like Jeff Francoeur and ol' Nedley and Jon Brox.

Probably a big reason why the Royals are so Charmin soft mentally. They've got a bunch of pussies running around the clubhouse.


What a load of pure bullshit. For one, he signed Jose Guillen to a $36m deal knowing full well he was a bad apple, but we needed a bat. He brought in Frenchy the same time he brought in Melky, again: because we needed some bats. Not because they're "nice guys". I doubt you can prove his acquisitions (on balance) are as you characterized them.

duncan_idaho 07-09-2014 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10738481)
What a load of pure bullshit. For one, he signed Jose Guillen to a $36m deal knowing full well he was a bad apple, but we needed a bat. He brought in Frenchy the same time he brought in Melky, again: because we needed some bats. Not because they're "nice guys". I doubt you can prove his acquisitions (on balance) are as you characterized them.

Didn't say that's the only type of guy he'll bring in, but it certainly seems to be his preference. Just basing it on hearing him talk about guys.

I've heard him mention "he's a good Christian" or something similar to that 3-4 times when discussing new players in informal settings.

duncan_idaho 07-09-2014 09:42 PM

Oh, and an interesting update considering Vargas might miss a start...

John Lamb pitched tonight for Omaha and went 7 IP with 11 K and no walks. More importantly, he was hitting 93-94 on the radar gun. This was also against a lineup that includes Javier Baez, Kris Bryant and Manny Ramirez.

He's on a nice run over his last 10 games, with good strikeout numbers and a low ERA. WHIP is a little high (1.35 range).

If he can continue to get that type of pop out of his fastball, Lamb can be a useful MLB starter. He's got a good feeling for pitching, his changeup is good (and plays off of 92-93-94 much better than 87) and has a decent-enough changeup.

AndChiefs 07-09-2014 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10739081)
Oh, and an interesting update considering Vargas might miss a start...

John Lamb pitched tonight for Omaha and went 7 IP with 11 K and no walks. More importantly, he was hitting 93-94 on the radar gun. This was also against a lineup that includes Javier Baez, Kris Bryant and Manny Ramirez.

He's on a nice run over his last 10 games, with good strikeout numbers and a low ERA. WHIP is a little high (1.35 range).

If he can continue to get that type of pop out of his fastball, Lamb can be a useful MLB starter. He's got a good feeling for pitching, his changeup is good (and plays off of 92-93-94 much better than 87) and has a decent-enough changeup.

It'll be Chen.

KCCHIEFS27 07-09-2014 10:12 PM

It won't be anybody. He'll have enough time to heal.

KCCHIEFS27 07-09-2014 10:16 PM

Kidding..I just really don't want it to be Chen.

tk13 07-09-2014 10:18 PM

Matt Cassel would be out there pitching this weekend, appendix or no appendix.

Mama Hip Rockets 07-09-2014 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10738418)
he did belt 29 Hrs last year. Its a low risk, high reward scenario.

It's a "dude is hitting .150 (and .136 since coming to KC) and is 42 years old and the outfield was fine without him" scenario.

Archie F. Swin 07-10-2014 07:51 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The Royals will be without Alex Gordon and Jason Vargas this weekend against the Tigers. <a href="http://t.co/Q3ZaS1PQpD">http://t.co/Q3ZaS1PQpD</a></p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/487221586395549696">July 10, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Three7s 07-10-2014 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10739081)
Oh, and an interesting update considering Vargas might miss a start...

John Lamb pitched tonight for Omaha and went 7 IP with 11 K and no walks. More importantly, he was hitting 93-94 on the radar gun. This was also against a lineup that includes Javier Baez, Kris Bryant and Manny Ramirez.

He's on a nice run over his last 10 games, with good strikeout numbers and a low ERA. WHIP is a little high (1.35 range).

If he can continue to get that type of pop out of his fastball, Lamb can be a useful MLB starter. He's got a good feeling for pitching, his changeup is good (and plays off of 92-93-94 much better than 87) and has a decent-enough changeup.

I'd sure love it if they went and brought up Lamb and gave him a shot. Sadly, we know this won't be the case.

DeepSouth 07-10-2014 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 10739299)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The Royals will be without Alex Gordon and Jason Vargas this weekend against the Tigers. <a href="http://t.co/Q3ZaS1PQpD">http://t.co/Q3ZaS1PQpD</a></p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/487221586395549696">July 10, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Lane Adams (AA) is the only other OF on the 40 man roster. Plus, he bats RH.

DeepSouth 07-10-2014 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 10739309)
I'd sure love it if they went and brought up Lamb and gave him a shot. Sadly, we know this won't be the case.

It couldn't be any worse that what Brooks did in his one start. They have until Sunday (Vargas's next scheduled start) to decide.

Mama Hip Rockets 07-10-2014 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 10739299)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The Royals will be without Alex Gordon and Jason Vargas this weekend against the Tigers. <a href="http://t.co/Q3ZaS1PQpD">http://t.co/Q3ZaS1PQpD</a></p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/487221586395549696">July 10, 2014</a></blockquote>
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:deevee:

DeepSouth 07-10-2014 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10739081)
Oh, and an interesting update considering Vargas might miss a start...

John Lamb pitched tonight for Omaha and went 7 IP with 11 K and no walks. More importantly, he was hitting 93-94 on the radar gun. This was also against a lineup that includes Javier Baez, Kris Bryant and Manny Ramirez.

He's on a nice run over his last 10 games, with good strikeout numbers and a low ERA. WHIP is a little high (1.35 range).

If he can continue to get that type of pop out of his fastball, Lamb can be a useful MLB starter. He's got a good feeling for pitching, his changeup is good (and plays off of 92-93-94 much better than 87) and has a decent-enough changeup.

Could Lamb start Sunday (only three days rest)? I like the fact he's a LHP like Vargas.

TLO 07-10-2014 08:38 AM

Get well soon Gordon and Vargas!

duncan_idaho 07-10-2014 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeepSouth (Post 10739339)
Could Lamb start Sunday (only three days rest)? I like the fact he's a LHP like Vargas.

I wouldn't push a guy like that. I was thinking they were off today when I wrote the original post about Lamb, which would have allowed Lamb to go on normal rest on Monday.

It has to be Chen. But they're talking about Vargas missing 3-4 weeks with this thing. That doesn't make much sense, considering they caught it before his appendix ruptured. Should be a 3-5 day recovery.

Kansas City Kid 07-10-2014 08:45 AM

Gotta take at least three out of four here. No worse than a split.

TLO 07-10-2014 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10739351)
I wouldn't push a guy like that. I was thinking they were off today when I wrote the original post about Lamb, which would have allowed Lamb to go on normal rest on Monday.

It has to be Chen. But they're talking about Vargas missing 3-4 weeks with this thing. That doesn't make mhc sense, considering they caught it before his appendix ruptured. Should be a 3-5 day recovery.

Exactly what I was thinking. I had my appendix out recently, and I was feeling basically back to normal in about 5 days.

I don't see where this 3-4 weeks stuff is coming from.

DeepSouth 07-10-2014 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10739366)
Exactly what I was thinking. I had my appendix out recently, and I was feeling basically back to normal in about 5 days.

I don't see where this 3-4 weeks stuff is coming from.

With four days off for the All Star game next week, he could only miss his Sunday start. He could be pushed to the back of the order starting next Friday (Jul 18). Although, I like Vargas pitching between Shields and Ventura. A finesse LHP throwing between two hard throwing RHP.

RockChalk 07-10-2014 09:03 AM

One thing we know about Chen. He'll either go 6ip 2-3ER's or we'll be out of the game by the 2nd inning. No in-between with that guy.

tomahawk kid 07-10-2014 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 10739299)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The Royals will be without Alex Gordon and Jason Vargas this weekend against the Tigers. <a href="http://t.co/Q3ZaS1PQpD">http://t.co/Q3ZaS1PQpD</a></p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/487221586395549696">July 10, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Did we ever get a confirmation on what the deal is with Gordo's wrist?

Assuming its just a sprain?

TLO 07-10-2014 09:05 AM

Maybe we should start the pen on Sunday?

Crow takes innings 1-2

Herrera 3-5

Bueno 6-7

Davis 8

Holland 9

#winning

DeepSouth 07-10-2014 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10739388)
Maybe we should start the pen on Sunday?

Crow takes innings 1-2

Herrera 3-5

Bueno 6-7

Davis 8

Holland 9

#winning

You do make a viable option since all the relieve pitchers except for Holland will have four days off. Whoever starts would not have to go deep in the game knowing all your relievers (depending on who had to pitch the previous day) could contribute.

Canofbier 07-10-2014 09:29 AM

Deadspin just published a short-but-sort-of-interesting article about the idea of longer at-bats resulting in better offense. Their analysis is pretty limited in scope, but I'd expect that we'd see at least a bit of a relationship between P/AB and runs scored if the two were truly related.

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Being Patient At The Plate Doesn't Correlate With Scoring More Runs

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/...tn22hvvkv9.jpg

If you want a good baseball offense, you need to milk to pitch count. That's what it says in Moneyball, and it's been Red Sox gospel under Terry Francona. But as the graph above from The Hardball Times shows, it isn't significantly related to offensive production.

From 2010 to 2013 teams who see more pitches per plate appearance have had both low offensive production (Red Sox, Mets, Phillies) and high production (Blue Jays, Athletics, Indians). Whether looking at runs scored or team offense (wRC+), correlations with plate patience were negligible.

This doesn't seem to be just some effect of the league catching up with the trend, either. We went back a bit further and looked at pitches per plate appearances in 1999. In 1999 batters saw a similar amount of pitches per plate appearance as they did in 2010 (3.73 in 1999, 3.82 in 2010). And like post-2010 trends, there was no significant correlation (0.19) in 1999 between pitches per plate appearance and runs scored.

The only significant relationship found in the article is that patient teams were more likely to garner another at bat when a starting pitcher is going through the lineup for the fourth time. But this resulting added at bat generally happens at the bottom of the lineup, which reduces its impact.

KCCHIEFS27 07-10-2014 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10739388)
Maybe we should start the pen on Sunday?

Crow takes innings 1-2

Herrera 3-5

Bueno 6-7

Davis 8

Holland 9

#winning

The Mariners are taking this approach tonight. They're starting Wilhelmsen, his first MLB start, who hasn't pitched more than 3 innings in an appearance this year.

Mama Hip Rockets 07-10-2014 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10739388)
Maybe we should start the pen on Sunday?

Crow takes innings 1-2

Herrera 3-5

Bueno 6-7

Davis 8

Holland 9

#winning

+1

Discuss Thrower 07-10-2014 10:32 AM

You know what really gets my dick hard?

PLATOON PITCHING.

BigCatDaddy 07-10-2014 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10739388)
Maybe we should start the pen on Sunday?

Crow takes innings 1-2

Herrera 3-5

Bueno 6-7

Davis 8

Holland 9

#winning

So if one of them starts getting blown up who comes in?

I'm pretty sure Chen is already penciled in I believe.

FringeNC 07-10-2014 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10739081)
Oh, and an interesting update considering Vargas might miss a start...

John Lamb pitched tonight for Omaha and went 7 IP with 11 K and no walks. More importantly, he was hitting 93-94 on the radar gun. This was also against a lineup that includes Javier Baez, Kris Bryant and Manny Ramirez.

He's on a nice run over his last 10 games, with good strikeout numbers and a low ERA. WHIP is a little high (1.35 range).

If he can continue to get that type of pop out of his fastball, Lamb can be a useful MLB starter. He's got a good feeling for pitching, his changeup is good (and plays off of 92-93-94 much better than 87) and has a decent-enough changeup.

Nice to hear. It looked like he was done earlier. At 94 MPH, he's a good prospect again.

SPATCH 07-10-2014 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10739496)
You know what really gets my dick hard?

PLATOON PITCHING.

This is no joke.

I NEED THIS.

ChiefsCountry 07-10-2014 12:05 PM

Petro floated this trade idea out there.

Price
Loney
Zobrist

For
Hosmer
Ventura/Duffy pick one
Prospects

seaofred 07-10-2014 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10739661)
Petro floated this trade idea out there.

Price
Loney
Zobrist

For
Hosmer
Ventura/Duffy pick one
Prospects

Is he high? I would never do that. Isn't Price a FA after this year?

Lex Luthor 07-10-2014 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10739661)
Petro floated this trade idea out there.

Price
Loney
Zobrist

For
Hosmer
Ventura/Duffy pick one
Prospects

You don't trade Ventura or Duffy unless you're getting Giancarlo.

Mr. Arrowhead 07-10-2014 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10739661)
Petro floated this trade idea out there.

Price
Loney
Zobrist

For
Hosmer
Ventura/Duffy pick one
Prospects

Petro would think that is a good deal for us

WhawhaWhat 07-10-2014 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seaofred (Post 10739678)
Isn't Price a FA after this year?

after next year.

-King- 07-10-2014 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10739388)
Maybe we should start the pen on Sunday?

Crow takes innings 1-2

Herrera 3-5

Bueno 6-7

Davis 8

Holland 9

#winning

Has a team ever did anything like this? Pitcher by committee?

Discuss Thrower 07-10-2014 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 10739701)
Petro would think that is a good deal for us

I'd guess the problem with trading Hosmer is that the organization prizes his defensive game too much.

duncan_idaho 07-10-2014 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10739661)
Petro floated this trade idea out there.

Price
Loney
Zobrist

For
Hosmer
Ventura/Duffy pick one
Prospects

You're still likely talking about a huge prospect bundle there. Zimmer + Mondesi, ilikely, and a few other pieces.

Doesn't make a lot of sense for KC long term, but it would make the Royals better in 2014 and 2015.

BWillie 07-10-2014 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10739072)
Didn't say that's the only type of guy he'll bring in, but it certainly seems to be his preference. Just basing it on hearing him talk about guys.

I've heard him mention "he's a good Christian" or something similar to that 3-4 times when discussing new players in informal settings.

If he's basing his signings, anything on this, I don't even know what to say. Either way, I'd just leave that out next time. You make it seem like you are placing to much emphasis on this when it comes to their expected production :shake:

BigCatDaddy 07-10-2014 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10739879)
If he's basing his signings, anything on this, I don't even know what to say. Either way, I'd just leave that out next time. You make it seem like you are placing to much emphasis on this when it comes to their expected production :shake:

Are you try to tell me Jesus Christ cant hit a curve ball?

petegz28 07-10-2014 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10739661)
Petro floated this trade idea out there.

Price
Loney
Zobrist

For
Hosmer
Ventura/Duffy pick one
Prospects

Petro has been smoking crack today

SPATCH 07-10-2014 02:25 PM

Trades involving nothing but big leaguers almost never go down. He just wanted throw a bunch of familiar names out there to stir the pot a bit more.

BWillie 07-10-2014 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10739886)
Are you try to tell me Jesus Christ cant hit a curve ball?

ROFLROFLROFLROFL

TLO 07-10-2014 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10739500)
So if one of them starts getting blown up who comes in?

I'm pretty sure Chen is already penciled in I believe.

I'm just trying to be creative. If Chen starts Sunday then I'm going to go ahead and mark that down as a big fat L. I'm penicl

TLO 07-10-2014 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10739661)
Petro floated this trade idea out there.

Price
Loney
Zobrist

For
Hosmer
Ventura/Duffy pick one
Prospects

Trading Duffy or Ventura is a bad idea. The only way I'd consider it is if we got Stanton.

TomBarndtsTwin 07-10-2014 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10739951)
Trading Duffy or Ventura is a bad idea. The only way I'd consider it is if we got Stanton.

Yup. Ventura, Duffy, Perez are pretty much the 'untouchables' on this team, although I think the Royals would package Duffy in a Stanton deal.

Not like that is going to happen, though . . . . .

Three7s 07-10-2014 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 10739991)
Yup. Ventura, Duffy, Perez are pretty much the 'untouchables' on this team, although I think the Royals would package Duffy in a Stanton deal.

Not like that is going to happen, though . . . . .

I would love to see Stanton hit at the K. He would demolish the HR record here.

C3HIEF3S 07-10-2014 04:44 PM

Not taking away Hosmer's last week or so, but Rany posted a nice little stat
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>For all the attention Eric Hosmer&#39;s little hot stretch has gotten, since June 8th Omar Infante is hitting .347/.382/.465.</p>&mdash; Rany Jazayerli (@jazayerli) <a href="https://twitter.com/jazayerli/statuses/487362281596915712">July 10, 2014</a></blockquote>
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BigCatDaddy 07-10-2014 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10739945)
I'm just trying to be creative. If Chen starts Sunday then I'm going to go ahead and mark that down as a big fat L. I'm penicl

Its a bit puzzling because he was lights out last year after the break. Its not like he had any velocity to lose.

Archie F. Swin 07-10-2014 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10739661)
Petro floated this trade idea out there.

Price
Loney
Zobrist

For
Hosmer
Ventura/Duffy pick one
Prospects

I would do that if I had high confidence we had a starter on the farm who will be league ready for 2015.

Deberg_1990 07-10-2014 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 10740271)
I would do that if I had high confidence we had a starter on the farm who will be league ready for 2015.

Zimmer????

C3HIEF3S 07-10-2014 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10740274)
Zimmer????

Zimmer hasn't been healthy. No way he is a lock to start next season.

Prison Bitch 07-10-2014 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10739072)
Didn't say that's the only type of guy he'll bring in, but it certainly seems to be his preference. Just basing it on hearing him talk about guys.

I've heard him mention "he's a good Christian" or something similar to that 3-4 times when discussing new players in informal settings.


You're a pretty reasoned poster so it was surprising to see you level such an accusation against Dayton. His 6 biggest contracts, in order: Meche-Guillen-Gordon-Butler-Vargas-Infante don't fit your description of him so I'm curious if you had anything besides something you heard in a private setting.


I've seen Dayton in two private settings and even spoke with him for some time and I never heard what you claim he says.

DeepSouth 07-11-2014 05:41 AM

As bad as last nights game was, there is a bright spot. Dyson got two hits off a LHP.

DeepSouth 07-11-2014 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 10740271)
I would do that if I had high confidence we had a starter on the farm who will be league ready for 2015.

My hopes rest on this guy for 2015. He's mature considering he was just drafted.

Brandon Finnegan, He breezed through the first six hitters in the Nationals' lineup, striking out one and allowing just one ball to leave the infield.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...ook_kc&c_id=kc

Archie F. Swin 07-11-2014 05:50 AM

I smell something familiar. The smell of the Royals shitting the bed in a crucial division series leading up to the ASB.

Three7s 07-11-2014 06:44 AM

So much for Art Stewart's analysis of Coleman.

WhawhaWhat 07-11-2014 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 10740970)
So much for Art Stewart's analysis of Coleman.

I liked his segment during the game yesterday. That dude has watched a lot of baseball and a lot of very good players come through.

TambaBerry 07-11-2014 06:59 AM

If we're not going for a big time player, we need to be sellers.

Unsmooth-Moment 07-11-2014 08:46 AM

Damn we took the whistle last night.

Ceej 07-11-2014 08:48 AM

There's absolutely no way this soft team bounces back tonight.

Great Expectations 07-11-2014 09:19 AM

That loss per ESPN dropped our chances of making the playoffs by 9%.

BigCatDaddy 07-11-2014 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 10741114)
That loss per ESPN dropped our chances of making the playoffs by 9%.

The seems extreme. I wonder how much it will go up if we end up splitting the series.

duncan_idaho 07-11-2014 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 10741114)
That loss per ESPN dropped our chances of making the playoffs by 9%.

Probably a combo of falling 5.5 games back and having a -12 run differential for the game.

BLowouts like that can wipe out your run differential single-handedly.

Great Expectations 07-11-2014 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10741178)
The seems extreme. I wonder how much it will go up if we end up splitting the series.

Their predictions are a combination of run differential and record. We went from +18 to +6 in run differential, thus the drop.

C3HIEF3S 07-11-2014 11:43 AM

Welp, forget about Marlon Byrd

@JSalisburyCSN: Phillies OF Marlon Byrd has 4-team no-trade clause, includes SEA, KC. Story http://t.co/jpj5a9DOo2

WhawhaWhat 07-11-2014 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 10741385)
Welp, forget about Marlon Byrd

@JSalisburyCSN: Phillies OF Marlon Byrd has 4-team no-trade clause, includes SEA, KC. Story http://t.co/jpj5a9DOo2

http://www.baconsports.com/wp-conten...ed-dibiase.jpg

C3HIEF3S 07-11-2014 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10741453)

Doesn't matter what the price is, unless Byrd waves that no trade clause.

Guess that's what happens when a franchise sucks for three decades straight.

WhawhaWhat 07-11-2014 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 10741455)
Doesn't matter what the price is, unless Byrd waves that no trade clause.

He has an option for 2016 and I bet any trade to those teams would involve the new team guaranteeing that option. That's probably why the no trade teams were revealed in the first place.

Three7s 07-11-2014 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 10741385)
Welp, forget about Marlon Byrd

@JSalisburyCSN: Phillies OF Marlon Byrd has 4-team no-trade clause, includes SEA, KC. Story http://t.co/jpj5a9DOo2

Why would an average to above average outfielder have a no-trade clause for any team? Seems stupid to me.

Al Bundy 07-11-2014 01:14 PM

Colon down, Aoki active. Roster is full of dogshit, fail and suck.

Discuss Thrower 07-11-2014 01:15 PM

Aoki was blowing ass at Double A.

C3HIEF3S 07-11-2014 01:18 PM

Aoki is back and ready to **** shit up!

DeepSouth 07-11-2014 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 10741539)
Colon down, Aoki active. Roster is full of dogshit, fail and suck.

Aoki's .263 batting average is better than Ibanez's .097 batting average. Having Ibanez in the lineup was like a guaranteed out.


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