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ThaVirus 07-10-2024 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17579234)
Without a video people are less likely to be as mad and assume oh well who knows what happened etc etc.

Yep. You really just never know.. unless there’s a video lol

staylor26 07-10-2024 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17579252)
It’s deeper than that, but sure. It seems obvious to me that any story with a video is going to have longer legs than a headline. If it’s got a video that can be looped on nightly news and every social media platform from Reddit to Facebook, it’ll touch more people.

I can explain it to you but I can’t understand it for you.

I’ll offer you this, though: the Chiefs have had a bit of a tumultuous offseason thus far. We’ve had the Rice accident (video) , Rice alleged assault (no video), Butker commencement speech (video), Buggs dog killing charges (no video), and Wanya & Godrick’s marijuana charges (no video).

Why do you think it is that the two incidents that have sparked the most controversy were on video and the ones that did not contain video were literally not given two shits about?

Your argument that it’s all about our success just doesn’t hold water. If it did, people would have cared more about Rice’s alleged assault and the other guy’s petty bullshit.

Holy ****.

Nobody gives a **** about Buggs and Wanya/Godrick because Buggs is a PS level player and the other was a ****ing arrest for weed. If it were Chris Jones instead of Buggs it's an entirely different story, and you ****ing know that. The outrage over Butker is purely political.

You can't possibly be this ****ing stupid.

FloridaMan88 07-10-2024 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17579243)
People are outraged over the car thing because all they see is Henry Ruggs part 2 with a luckier outcome.

Had the Ruggs thing never happened this would be a lesser issue.

Jordan Addison also had a “car thing” post-Ruggs and there wasn’t this same delusional outrage.

staylor26 07-10-2024 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17579257)
Yep. You really just never know.. unless there’s a video lol

Yea, they just thought maybe Sutton was innocent. It's not like he wasn't running from police or anything.

It has nothing to do with presumed innocence. We don't even have a culture of presumed innocence anymore.

Mecca 07-10-2024 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17579260)
Jordan Addison also had a “car thing” post-Ruggs and there wasn’t this same delusional outrage.

He got a ticket without a video, Rice hit people with a video.

I understand why it's selective but video is always going to amplify it on top of there being a wreck.

staylor26 07-10-2024 10:24 AM

Alvin Kamara and his possee beat the ****ing shit out of a guy ALL ON VIDEO and there was little to no outrage, and Kamara got a measly 4 game suspension after playing an entire season after the video was released, no outrage for that either.

ThaVirus 07-10-2024 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17579237)
That's not the argument. The argument is that people are more outraged over a car wreck than brutal domestic violence because the car wreck was on tape.

You know those people just want the Chiefs as a team to suffer and don't really care about Rice or the morality of the situation. If they did, they'd be outraged over Sutton's suspension.


The NFL only cares about the video as much as it affects the public.

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17579259)
Holy ****.



Nobody gives a **** about Buggs and Wanya/Godrick because Buggs is a PS level player and the other was a ****ing arrest for weed. If it were Chris Jones instead of Buggs it's an entirely different story, and you ****ing know that. The outrage over Butker is purely political.



You can't possibly be this ****ing stupid.


So you admit that there are more factors at play than simply everyone hating the Chiefs?

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17579256)
Well



A no one cares about weed, thats a non issue for 97% of the country

B Isaih Buggs is a borderline player hence why he was cut


Yeah, I’ll take the L on that one. I was remembering it being large amounts of weed. Every article I can find now says it was a misdemeanor so I assume it wasn’t trafficking levels.

Either way, it’s still obvious that there are more factors at play than Chiefs fatigue.

If he could just admit that he’s wrong, that the existence of a video makes it worse we could all move along.

O.city 07-10-2024 10:29 AM

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ThaVirus 07-10-2024 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17579275)
Alvin Kamara and his possee beat the ****ing shit out of a guy ALL ON VIDEO and there was little to no outrage, and Kamara got a measly 4 game suspension after playing an entire season after the video was released, no outrage for that either.


Well the sad truth is that Alvin and his crew beat the shit out of a guy. People don’t care about grown men in these situations like they do women, elderly and children.

Add to that the fact that it was in Vegas at 6am.

Another layer is that the video is very dark and you can’t make a ton of the action out. That video is not very marketable.

ThaVirus 07-10-2024 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17579293)
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Make it 2-0. This beat down has to count for more than one lol

O.city 07-10-2024 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17579300)
Make it 2-0. This beat down has to count for more than one lol

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Pasta Little Brioni 07-10-2024 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17579293)
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Proof that Staylor won :)

Pasta Little Brioni 07-10-2024 10:35 AM

No one here could identify Rice by the video or photos. That ends this argument.

Mecca 07-10-2024 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17579307)
No one here could identify Rice by the video or photos. That ends this argument.

Yea he admitted he did it so that throws that out the window.

staylor26 07-10-2024 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17579299)
Well the sad truth is that Alvin and his crew beat the shit out of a guy. People don’t care about grown men in these situations like they do women, elderly and children.

Add to that the fact that it was in Vegas at 6am.

Another layer is that the video is very dark and you can’t make a ton of the action out. That video is not very marketable.

LMAO

You know how full of shit you are and that the Kamara situation clearly disproves this stupid ****ing argument you're trying to make about videos and their impact on outrage. The image of Kamara's victim alone should spark more outrage than the video of Rice's wreck.


https://i.imgur.com/Ta4p9X9.jpeg


The truth is that if Kamara were a Chief, this story would've gotten WAY more play and there would all of a sudden have been this outrage that Kamara was allowed to play a full season then get a slap on the wrist.

But he's a Saint, so outrage was minimal at best, even with the BIG BAD VIDEO.


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