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Gary Cooper 11-02-2022 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 16572412)
He speaks much better than anticipated.

That's racist!

Shields68 11-02-2022 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16572250)
Skyy's biggest issue is not getting targets. Andy needs to actually put together a Skyy package, as he's done for all of our receivers in the past. Something to give him some confidence and get him going. But 2-3 targets a game isn't going to accomplish much for Skyy. And we already know he can run good routes from the slot, so come on Andy, let's go.

Guessing that against a zone he will always be a 3-4th option Kelce and Juju have a good knack for finding areas. Against man if he gets separation Patrick will get him targets and he will get more time until then ....

Dante84 11-02-2022 02:55 PM

Toney is what we hoped DAT would be, but in a bigger body.

dlphg9 11-02-2022 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16571968)
LMAO Took enough shit for thinking that signing Brokeback was a bad idea at the time that I will gleefully mock any mention of him for all times.

I remember all the shit I got for saying I was glad we didn't get him and that the contract was awful. Dude got raped by Frank Clark for ****s sake lol

DJ's left nut 11-02-2022 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16572250)
Skyy's biggest issue is not getting targets. Andy needs to actually put together a Skyy package, as he's done for all of our receivers in the past. Something to give him some confidence and get him going. But 2-3 targets a game isn't going to accomplish much for Skyy. And we already know he can run good routes from the slot, so come on Andy, let's go.

8.3 Y/Target puts him behind JJSS, MVS and Hardman.

He's not gotten a lot of opportunities, no. But he's also not exactly gone out there and forced the issue to demand more of them either.

He's just been a pretty standard, run of the mill rookie. To this point he's done more harm than good due primarily to his work on STs, but he's also created an interception on a play dialed up expressly to get him open in space.

If he wants more targets, he needs to play better. Right now he has 3 guys that are playing better than him ahead of him on the depth chart. We also acquired someone with a better pedigree and better measurables.

He's gonna have to put on his big boy pants and, in the words of Pacheco, take a grown man's job. Or he's just gonna keep cooling his heels and we'll see if he can flash here and there before he gets a larger opportunity next season. And even that isn't a given.

I'm kinda past the point of caring what he does anymore. He ain't the DE I wanted and the WRs ahead of him are playing well enough to get the job done. Okay - get good or get gone, young blood. At this point it's all on you.

dlphg9 11-02-2022 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16572419)
Toney is what we hoped DAT would be, but in a bigger body.

DAT for some reason was thought of as some type of speedster, but when you watched him play he looked slow as hell. Also he ran a 4.5 40 and was 5'9", God he was an awful pick. Toney is ran a 4.39 and is 6'.

DJ's left nut 11-02-2022 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16572441)
DAT for some reason was thought of as some type of speedster, but when you watched him play he looked slow as hell. Also he ran a 4.5 40 and was 5'9", God he was an awful pick. Toney is ran a 4.39 and is 6'.

Yeah, he's not a DAT player at all.

He's very much a Hardman sort. And so if you squint, that makes him a DeSean Jackson type if everything goes really well.

DJ's left nut 11-02-2022 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16572401)
I remember when the Giants drafted him. I felt bad for the guy b/c I knew his talent would be wasted. I knew KC had looked at him that draft and thought he would be an outstanding fit for our offense. I remember thinking it was like night and day where he was drafted as opposed to being able to play in KC. Weird how things work out sometimes.

Kelce was a QB in High School and evidently a pretty decent one. Remember how he looked trying to pass the ball? Who was that kid who played college QB then got converted to WR and was the QB for the Broncos for that COVID game when their QB room got bounced? He was a damn disaster.

The difference between some kid that played QB in high school and even an AWFUL NFL quarterback is just massive. I have very little interest in seeing Toney out there slinging it...

493rd 11-02-2022 03:18 PM

This dude is about to completely change this offense and nobody will be able to stop us. **** you Buffalo

Pitt Gorilla 11-02-2022 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16572439)
8.3 Y/Target puts him behind JJSS, MVS and Hardman.

He's not gotten a lot of opportunities, no. But he's also not exactly gone out there and forced the issue to demand more of them either.

He's just been a pretty standard, run of the mill rookie. To this point he's done more harm than good due primarily to his work on STs, but he's also created an interception on a play dialed up expressly to get him open in space.

If he wants more targets, he needs to play better. Right now he has 3 guys that are playing better than him ahead of him on the depth chart. We also acquired someone with a better pedigree and better measurables.

He's gonna have to put on his big boy pants and, in the words of Pacheco, take a grown man's job. Or he's just gonna keep cooling his heels and we'll see if he can flash here and there before he gets a larger opportunity next season. And even that isn't a given.

I'm kinda past the point of caring what he does anymore. He ain't the DE I wanted and the WRs ahead of him are playing well enough to get the job done. Okay - get good or get gone, young blood. At this point it's all on you.

Get gone? He's a rookie.

raybec 4 11-02-2022 03:18 PM

"I just want to go out there and do what's asked of me." That is the absolute best possible answer. I really hope he got the shitty end of the stick in NY and makes himself a factor here.

DJ's left nut 11-02-2022 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16572455)
Get gone? He's a rookie.

I didn't say tomorrow.

There's plenty of runway still in front of him.

DJ's left nut 11-02-2022 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16572457)
"I just want to go out there and do what's asked of me." That is the absolute best possible answer. I really hope he got the shitty end of the stick in NY and makes himself a factor here.

Never underestimate the impact of Patriot Way bullshit.

Then again, anyone can sound good for half an hour.

We'll start seeing the returns soon enough. I don't think he's going to be buried here - he'll get some looks and we'll see if he's as full of shit as a whole bunch of guys that have come before him.

If not, I think he'll be an excellent ballplayer.

Titty Meat 11-02-2022 03:26 PM

Toney is also a rapper it will be interesting to see how this board embraces him

raybec 4 11-02-2022 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16572465)
Never underestimate the impact of Patriot Way bullshit.

Then again, anyone can sound good for half an hour.

We'll start seeing the returns soon enough. I don't think he's going to be buried here - he'll get some looks and we'll see if he's as full of shit as a whole bunch of guys that have come before him.

If not, I think he'll be an excellent ballplayer.

True, but at least we already know he's not in the bottom 15% that will say stupid shit like "Give me the ball and watch me do my thing" in their opening presser.


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