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Discuss Thrower 09-24-2011 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7936676)
Of course you would.

Well I guess for however improbable it would be, it makes some sense. You improve PAC's basketball rep with KU and Mizzou to a lesser extent while adding a good program in Mizzou and one that can succeed in KU if they have the right Hutt -errr Mangino at HC.

notorious 09-24-2011 12:39 PM

Isn't it obvious through all of this that nobody gives a **** about basketball when it comes to conference alignment?

|Zach| 09-24-2011 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 7936680)
Well I guess for however improbable it would be, it makes some sense. You improve PAC's basketball rep with KU and Mizzou to a lesser extent while adding a good program in Mizzou and one that can succeed in KU if they have the right Hutt -errr Mangino at HC.

Nobody cares.

Discuss Thrower 09-24-2011 12:42 PM

I know that. I'm saying an MU/KU add to the Pac12 wouldn't be too horrible all things considered.

alnorth 09-24-2011 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 7936684)
Isn't it obvious through all of this that nobody gives a **** about basketball when it comes to conference alignment?

It is less important, not irrelevant, and the PAC 12's options are extremely limited. If they had the guts to tell OU/UT to drop their little brothers, then they would absolutely want Texas, OU, KU, and MU

tk13 09-24-2011 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 7936725)
It is less important, not irrelevant, and the PAC 12's options are extremely limited. If they had the guts to tell OU/UT to drop their little brothers, then they would absolutely want Texas, OU, KU, and MU

I think the 2nd part of your post is probably correct... although largely due to academics, not athletics. Kansas University fans are the only people in the entire world anywhere I've seen saying basketball has any relevance in any of this. I don't understand it, and my favorite college sports event is definitely March Madness. But it's just not realistic, I don't know why people think that. Even on ESPN the other day, Andy Katz said this is all about football, and he's their big basketball writer.

BWillie 09-24-2011 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon (Post 7936653)
I think it is great Texas got rejected by the PAC.

Make no mistake, the Pac 12 would be thrilled to get Texas, OU even if that meant OSU and Tech coming with. They couldn't get them to absorb the LHN and agree to terms with revenue sharing. The Pac deciding they aren't going to expand is really kind of funny, it's more or less that Texas doesn't want to come and share revenue, same with Oklahoma. If they HAVE to share revenue, even if the tier 1 and tier 2 then why not stay in the Big 12..as you have seen.

BWillie 09-24-2011 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 7936725)
It is less important, not irrelevant, and the PAC 12's options are extremely limited. If they had the guts to tell OU/UT to drop their little brothers, then they would absolutely want Texas, OU, KU, and MU

I doubt it. Kansas barely turns a profit in football. I just looked up basketball and football revenue figures and KU is third to last in division 1 football profits. Revenue isn't all that much either.

If I was Pac 10, I'd want Oklahoma State over KU. Decent at football, Top 20 program in basketball. Throughout this I never thought of Oklahoma State as being the little brother of Oklahoma the same way K-State is to KU. OSU IMO is a legitimate school with a legitimate athletic program.

Bambi 09-24-2011 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7936685)
Nobody cares.

You're right.

Those football powerhouses that were gobbled up by conferences last week; Syracuse and Pitt, are sure having some great showings today.

LMAO

|Zach| 09-24-2011 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 7936751)
You're right.

Those football powerhouses that were gobbled up by conferences last week; Syracuse and Pitt, are sure having some great showings today.

LMAO

It isn't my fault you can't see the big picture.

Bambi 09-24-2011 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 7936612)
Well, duh. I realize the money and if they went to a different conference they would lose a little bit. They wouldn't be poor though if they went to the ACC or Big 12 though. Just too may traditional rivalries for them to leave and obviously the $. If they came to the Big 12 though they could start their own network and get tier 3 money.

BTW, where did you get that list? Crazy to think that Iowa's football team is virtually as profitable as Ohio States.

This list that keeps getting posted is really just ticket sales from what I can tell. The biggest stadiums are all at the top.

Not including TV deals, merchandise etc that create revenue outside of ticket sales.

That's why the bball school numbers appear so low.

It's just cherry picking, but who really cares at this point.

Why else would a school like Iowa be listed alongside Ohio State.

In reality the schools aren't even close in value.

Bambi 09-24-2011 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7936754)
It isn't my fault you can't see the big picture.

eh, when the football powerhouse Missouri gets invited to another conference then I'll believe you.

You've been wrong from the beginning.

It's actually quite pathetic to watch at this point.

Bambi 09-24-2011 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 7936740)
I doubt it. Kansas barely turns a profit in football. I just looked up basketball and football revenue figures and KU is third to last in division 1 football profits. Revenue isn't all that much either.

If I was Pac 10, I'd want Oklahoma State over KU. Decent at football, Top 20 program in basketball. Throughout this I never thought of Oklahoma State as being the little brother of Oklahoma the same way K-State is to KU. OSU IMO is a legitimate school with a legitimate athletic program.

Yet Kansas has the 2nd largest endowment and the 2nd largest 3rd tier TV deal in the Big 12 behind Texas.

I wonder why that is??

|Zach| 09-24-2011 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 7936758)
eh, when the football powerhouse Missouri gets invited to another conference then I'll believe you.

You've been wrong from the beginning.

It's actually quite pathetic to watch at this point.

Actually you were the one who thought it was silly talk that A&M was going to leave and to call you when they actually do. I've made no grand claims. Just watched you spin spin spin.

|Zach| 09-24-2011 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 7936755)
This list that keeps getting posted is really just ticket sales from what I can tell. The biggest stadiums are all at the top.

Not including TV deals, merchandise etc that create revenue outside of ticket sales.

That's why the bball school numbers appear so low.

It's just cherry picking, but who really cares at this point.

So, that doesn't include football merchandise either? Oh shit.


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