Hopefully KU is smart and uses the money they get from the MU exit fees to buy out Gills contract.

Hardly.

You guys got a solid program. Many of you think they're an upgrade over Mizzou.

I personally don't give a large rats ass one way or the other, so I'm simply acknowledging that it's not worth the argument. You fellas believe you've upgraded, so it's a win/win for all involved. Fantastic.

As previously stated - congrats.

Now if you need me, I'll be packing my shit for a better neighborhood.

Symbolic to the Big XII-2-1-1+1+1 presence in Kansas City.

They wanted the Big 12 to die when they left so they could feel important.

Sources say the money is already in the banking collecting interest. Zenger gets the authority to fire folks on Jan. 1.

I do not see this as an upgrade. If WV was an upgrade over Mizzou they would have not been kicked to the curb by the SEC.

Plus the 4-6 footbal games they'll play against league teams.

Good luck with that thought...

Ballsack.

Awesome.

A guy can dream....we'll find out after the first of the year.

So what happens if MU decides to stick around now?

First casualty of Mizzou leaving the Big 12.

Combination of backtracking and hilarity.

Time to take the fine china out of its box from the basement. The poor people are finally gone!

No one, but that's not the point. Mizzou has played for the Big XII title twice. Neither was competitive. Hell, in 2007, arguably Mizzou's best year in the last 40 years, OU went on to lose to West Virginia in the Fiesta Bowl. Badly.

Yeah, Mizzou would have been more competitive in the Big East - but not by leaps and bounds. They weren't that competitive in the Big XII.

Then WV is definitely an upgrade over A&M imo

I imagine the Big12 really starts looking to get another team to make 12 too.

KU/KSU fans:

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I'd rather not consider that scenario.

At least we won't have to miss the first part of the KU Big Monday games when the Big East implodes.

According to prevailing logic, this is horrible for the existing teams. The conference is getting harder to play in. How will KU and KSU survive having to play Texas, Oklahoma, ISU, TCU, and WV? The path to victory is to keep yourself in an AQ conference that is as easy as possible, right?

The "figuring out" will be when UT and OU leave, as they have been persistently trying to do for years...

Moving out of Columbia? :D

That would be interesting....forcing their way to make a new Big XII North and South again against the desires of UT and OU.

Not by leaps and bounds? Mizzou would have won the Big East multiple times. Hell, Ron Prince would have won the Big East. It has been an absolute joke of a league.

Justifying whether a league is good or not based one OU bowl game is a leap even you can't justifiably take.

KU fans don't care. Basketball school.

K-State, I think we'll manage to live on borrowed time until Snyders "Contract from Below" runs out.

Well in a way I am happy the Big East will fold as a conference in regards to football. Having them as an AQ was a joke for the past few years.

It's a conditional offer.

If MU doesn't go, the IIX stays at 10 teams and continues to suck.

If we leave, you guys get WVU and expand to 12 teams (which was where I wanted to be in the first place, but whatever).

See? Win/win.

But really, KSU fans and KU fans will still want to say the MU folks are butthurt or some shit like that. I'm not sure why - we got exactly what we were after. Near as I can tell, the MU fans are elated.

As to the rest of the IIX; y'all can have it.

Some sources as saying it is not a conditional offer, that WVU will join whether Mizzou stays or goes. Could make things interesting.

I'm loving these moves. If we can get BYU and Louisville then the conference is signifcantly better in football and basketball. There should be some great new rivalries and interesting matchups coming our way.

This thread got some burst back, even though the AIDs is showing.

That worked out well for the Big East.

Chip Brown just reported that MU is to leave for the SEC in 2013.

Well, hopefully that saved them a few million.

Ron Prince got his shit pushed in multiple times by Big East teams.

Meh - I think Mizzou would have won the title once or twice in the Big East. That would be much better than what they've done in the Big XII.

Butthurt.

Yea having success in it doesn't mean a whole lot.

According to KK, aTm is blackballed in Texas now and aTm is "pulling their hair out" trying to recruit their own state.

The Aids is strong in this thread.

Much like the Big 12 North?

wow, callers getting sentimental.

MU should really look themselves in the mirror.

Pretty sad.

SEC turned down West Virginia, but that institution is an upgrade from A&M and Mizzou. Yeah...

http://www.gifsoup.com/webroot/anima...s/386197_o.gif

Butthurt.

The farewell tour should be pretty hilarious. Your athletic programs are going to suck taint the next 2 years. :thumb:

The Ballsack is strong in this thread. Butthurt and Aids as well.

I think MU fans have gotten things seriously mixed up. Most KU/KSU fans don't really give a crap about MU ... they can DIAF. We just want the television markets, we don't really care where they come from. If the Big12 replaces the MU markets with something comparable then MU can hit the bricks and most KU/KSU fans won't blink twice about it.

MU is a shit hole and large portion of their fanbase is comprised of assholes.


Bring on some new blood.

In what way are they black balled?

Missouri fans are overwhelmingly for this movie. Feed back to the University as well as sentiment amongst pretty much every group of fans I have seen backs this up.

I know you are not a big fan of reality though. You never have been.

But...but...but...YOU POSTED IN THIS THREAD!

Heh, go on...

KK did not really say, he said something about other coaches of Texas schools targeting aTm, but nothing specific was cited by KK.

At some point we may be able to convince you that the KC area MU fans are little more than a significant minority of the MU fanbase at large.

Seriously - "MU" consists of a hell of a lot more people than the folks in KC that are going to be crushed by leaving. Columbia, MO is loving this. The St. Louis area fans are loving this.

If you're outside of the Kansas City area you simply do not care that they're leaving these rivalries behind.

In KC it's about a 50/50 split. Outside of KC, it's an 8-2 at best.

But I'm sure Kevin Keitzman is all to willing to give you the view of the common Missouri fan. He's clearly tuned in with them.

Put up banners and fill trophy cases.

No. Nothing like the Big 12 North.

UCONN was their champ last year....UCONN.

I admit I don't know but just how big is MU sports in St. Louis?

Is KK right in saying that the Cardinals and Rams are miles ahead of the Tigers when it comes to attention? More of an east coast scenario?

(Insert handsome man image.)

Isn't it obvious?

Mizzou fans are butthurt because we've been trying desperately to get out of this shithole conference and join a better one that is more lucrative. Well now we are going to the SEC, the best athletic conference in the country, where we could make $30-40MM more annually in a stable conference.

We will also be part of the SEC Network which will significantly increase exposure and revenues. Not to mention the benefit of recruiting the talent-rich Southeast, playing annual games against the most tradition-laden programs in the country, joining the SEC Academic Consortium, etc.

It's terrible. Truly terrible.

FYP. :p

I may have a different thought on a good part of this but if it were ONLY about football then WVU may be better to have than Mizzou. Basketball, while not an important piece of the puzzle is in favor of WVU (at least lately).
Academics is a landslide victory in favor of Mizzou.
The main thing we lose when Mizzou leaves is the television sets, and I honestly believe that the SEC wants them more for this piece of the equation than their football program.

Do I WANT to see Mizzou leave? No, but I don't think the Big XII is going to go under because of it.
I hate seeing the old rivalries die, but things change.

Thanks.

The Cardinals are, yes. The Cardinals are more important than murders and wars in St. Louis.

He's dead wrong about the Rams. Hell, the Blues might be ahead of the Rams. The Rams are popular in STL when they're good and that's it.

St. Louis is very much a major Mizzou town. It's not an MU/KU town (they don't really care about the rivalry; it's about on par with MU/Illinois over there), but it's absolutely a major MU town.

Bolded part is the first correct thing you have said in this entire thread.

$30-40 Million MORE than you would make in the Big 12?

I know I'm overwhelmingly outnumbered. But I think Mizzou's top 3 options are:

1. A viable Big XII (Adding of a couple good programs like TCU and WVU sure makes them look more viable than it appeared a month ago)

2. B1G. I've posted in this thread before and been told I'm an idiot, but in a perfect world I like how Mizzou fits in the B1G over how they fit in the SEC.

3. SEC.

I think too many fans (and administrators, frankly) are being blinded by the bright lights of the SEC. I don't think it's a good fit culturally or academically and I don't really like the match-ups athletically. I understand the "Big XII is broken let's jump ship while we can" mentality, but I just think the cons overwhelm the pros.

But it looks like we're going. Guess I'm going to have to start liking grits and sweet tea.

Not possible. /KK

Can't you see I'm dealing with all this butthurt?

Allowing ND, without its football program, into the Big XII would be a ridiculously big mistake.

FYP

You all want proof Kietzmann is making shit up?

Look no further than his claim that the Rams are more important to St. Louis than Mizzou. Absolute, complete and utter bullshit.

The Rams had a halfway decent following in St. Louis when they were the best team in the NFC for like three years. Their following currently is a joke, and enough of one that there is serious discussion they might move cities once again.

I love listening to people who don't live in St. Louis and have never lived in St. Louis talk about Missouri's fan following there. It's good for a nice laugh.

I'm asking because wasn't it a possible $12 million MORE than you would have made in the Big 12 in the papers released by MU?

In fairness - it seems damn unlikely.

Mizzou's gonna make more. Mizzou's gonna make quite a bit more. But $30 million more?

I've seen anywhere from $12 - $20 million, but never anywhere near $30-$40 million.

yea,yea ... the great and all-powerful MU is irreplaceable.


like i said, most MU fans are assholes and won't be missed AT ALL.

I do think alot of you guys are butthurt over the fact that some of us KU fans are not butthurt that you are leaving..

business is business...

{Woosh!}

Yeah - we're gonna really be sorry to be rid of the Beakers ourselves. Where oh where will we go to find out what socks match our Birkenstocks? Where will we ever be reminded what a free throw sounds like?

Oh right {Woosh!}. I'll have to write that down before I leave.

Kevin?

Nobody is saying that. Why are you being so dramatic?

It was just interesting that you mentioned if you replace the TV markets Missouri leaves behind.

I was interested in hearing more about that.

1. You should like sweet tea anyway... delicious.

2. I think the preference has been the B1G, but with that shit storm that came in last year that is not really a viable option.

3. I personally am now leary of staying in the Big XII because of the possiblity of this same thing happening next year (see last year's fiasco)... the whole conference has given me a sour taste at this point. Additionally, I think it would be a PR nightmere at this point. It has become a point of no return.

Yeah, no. We don't care.

Most of us are kinda tired about having to defend bullshit generalizations or outright misrepresentations concerning the beliefs of our fanbase, but that's about it.

Don't be mean. Laz is fine if they replace the markets they have lost.

Fine. fine. fine.

I like you guys, I hope it works out that the football program can keep playing well and there is a place at a good table for KSU when all this is over, which I guess won't be until OU/UT find a permanent place imo... Always admired Snyder and have had good dealings with K State fans in the past.

Old Man Commissioner:

"The Big XII is stronger now than it's ever been (at least until Texas changes its mind)!"

Old Man Commissioner:

"The Big XII is stronger now than it's ever been (at least until Texas changes its mind)!"