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The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=349477)

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17051289)

I thought he wasn’t going to practice till Monday?

Doesn’t he lose another million if he misses Sunday?

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 17051424)

It's a game of inches my friend. This is no secret.

The six inches in front of your face. Now I cant make ya do it. But I think you'll see a guy next to you who will go that inch. Cuz thats what livin is!

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17051406)

46-2 is literally just stupid. LMAO That's just a ridiculous stat

Well giving up less than 24pts on defense in only 48 games out of around 80 is a little disturbing in itself though.

The writing is on the wall. Even the slowest of us can see it coming unless Jones decides a different approach. Veach isn't going above whatever the number is thats his ceiling. They are obviously already there. Same scenario as played out with Hill.

Jones will be tagged. Permission granted to talk contract with other teams. Trade made for draft picks. 1st/3rd in 2024. 2nd round pick in 2025. Veach uses the draft capital to move up and get "his" new DT he's been scouting for 3 years.

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17051317)

Huh? Did we roll over teams in the regular season? Did we clearly outclass the Bengals and Eagles?

Did we need to? Or did we, you know, just need to score more points than they did?

We could easily be sitting here bemoaning another season where we didn’t win a SB in the Mahomes window.

If you'd like to waste your time wringing your little hands over would've, could've. Should've, and what ifs, you go right ahead. Here's one that will really bake your noodle, sorry in advance.

If Ossai doesn't cheap shot Mahomes, we don't win the afccg.

You see how stupid this endeavor is?

I’m well ****ing aware how lucky we are, but get some perspective if you actually think we steamrolled the league last year and there weren’t the requisite moments of luck necessary to achieve that.

Chiefs played the toughest schedule in NFL HISTORY with a bunch of dudes Mahomes never played with before, and won the Superbowl.

We even lost one of those games BECAUSE OF CHRIS JONES and his inability to make the game sealing play, and walk off the field, where this "Great defensive leader that we cannot live without" did absolutely **** all to stop the legendary corpse of Matt Ryan from scoring the go ahead td after Chris gift wrapped 15 yards and a fresh set of downs to them.

Do you hear what I’m saying?

I dont give a shit about your hand wringing, and that the games against the toughest schedule in football were not blowouts.

There isn't a fan out there if asked before a game that would not be okay if they were told "Hey, your team is gonna be in a dogfight, and get a 1 point win."

Well, except maybe for you.

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17051069)

No one out there is giving us for Jones what the Bears did for Mack.

Heh, funny you mention the Bears.

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17051417)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You can point out the fact that the Chiefs were still able to beat Herbert and Watson without Jones, but the Chiefs defense allowed over 29ppg in those matchups while the Chiefs offense averaged 43ppg.</p>— ��‼️ (@LanceTHESPOKEN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LanceTHESPOKEN/status/1689625568696766464?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Blah blah blah. We have played numerous games with a ton of guys out. We can win without Jones.

So did Jones report today?

One thing to consider is that Chris will have a much better year if he's on the last year of his contract vrs the first year of a new contract. Resign him and get 7-8 sacks vrs 12-15 on the 1 year.

I think Veach uses this type of pressure to get the most out of players.

But other than that...........

BEARS.

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17051632)

You fail to understand the very, very simple concept of the message I am trying to get across to you:

We were not some unstoppable juggernaut that coasted through the season. We won a lot of close games. Hence, losing our best defensive player - even if we can cobble together a group of decent replacements and deploy the money and draft capital elsewhere - could easily be the difference between our not winning a SB the next time we're in a similar situation.

I am not complaining that we didn't dominate our opponents. I couldn't care less if we won by 100 or won by 1 as we ended up champions. Frankly, I'm grateful as a fan that we had the exact season we did because it made it a million times more satisfying.

I am merely stating that we didn't have unlimited amounts of error last year and very likely won't this year either.

But please, keep responding to me like I'm complaining about the team and the season. It's nice when you talk past what I am very clearly articulating because of some made-up agenda in your mind.

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 17051424)

It's a game of inches my friend. This is no secret.

Chris Jones has never lost a game of inches.

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17051710)

While all you say is true, it's looking like the defense THIS year just may be leaps and bounds better than anything we've put on the field since Pat arrived. Barring injuries we have one of the best LB trios in the NFL and the secondary is in year 2 of the scheme they've been taught.

While we are better with CJ than without I think Veachs next step in his plan is replacing CJ after this year. Betting he has his eye on a certain college player right now , plus a couple fA's coming up. He needs a better draft position than 32 so how does he get there

That’s all well and good but with no pass rush it’s a problem

I’ve decided to root for the Chiefs regardless of what happens with C Jones (Chiefs starting DT)